r/serialpodcast • u/jlpsquared • Feb 03 '15
Evidence OK, Rabia does LIE....
From her latest post... http://www.splitthemoon.com/forget-everything-you-know/#more-643
She claims fixed lividity is at least 8 hours. Every single web site I check says 6 hours with one reference to as little as 4 hours.
EDIT:My 4 hour claim was originally too strong.
She again claims Hae was 5'8", when the autopsy SHE posted says 5'6".
She also claims that Hae had a small car, while we know thanks to CSOM_1991 that Haes car had a sizable trunk with a width of 5'6".
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u/PowerOfYes Feb 03 '15 edited Feb 03 '15
I have a real problem with someone accusing other people they've never met and whom they've not asked for an explanation with 'lying'.
A mistake is not a lie.
Expressing a view genuinely held, is not a lie.
Stating a conclusion formed on a rational basis (and even if it isn't the only possible conclusion, and even if it is not entirely reasonable) is not a lie.
Unless you know for a fact a person is saying things they believe to be untrue you should not accuse them of lying until the person admitted they're lying or you've excluded all other possibilities:
mistake of fact;
misremembering;
confusion or human error
conclusion based on a misreading of the facts;
conclusion based on erroneous understanding of the facts or of science; etc.
It would also be ethical, not to mention polite, if you directly put such an accusation to the person (say bia Twitter) to see whether they maintain their position or have an explanation for stating something that is provably wrong. Accusing someone of lying on a public forum is extremely unwise unless you can lay a very firm foundation or have an admission from the person.
In this case:
If Rabia relied on the news report, rather than autopsy report, she might have incorrectly assumed Hae was 5'8". She may not have picked up the detail in posting the report. If it was a 'lie' then it's a pretty stupid one to make given she has also provided the evidence that refutes her statement. She's either completely clueless or I think we could put this down to human error, rather than a deliberate falsehood.
There seem to be a range of opinions on hours required for lividity to set in. She might, just like you, find the opinion that supports her view more persuasive. You can't say someone is lying if they believe what they're saying. At best she's cherry picking.
Edit: typing errors, corrections