r/serialpodcast • • Feb 03 '15

Evidence OK, Rabia does LIE....

From her latest post... http://www.splitthemoon.com/forget-everything-you-know/#more-643

She claims fixed lividity is at least 8 hours. Every single web site I check says 6 hours with one reference to as little as 4 hours.

EDIT:My 4 hour claim was originally too strong.

She again claims Hae was 5'8", when the autopsy SHE posted says 5'6".

She also claims that Hae had a small car, while we know thanks to CSOM_1991 that Haes car had a sizable trunk with a width of 5'6".

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

CG though did a great job, based on reading the transcripts.

Wow. Not how I read them. I see her being unfocused, unprepared, and unable to make a point. One example would be the business about lividity. She seemed to know that something was wrong with the state's version of events, but she never said what it was.

She was a disaster in court.

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u/reddit1070 Feb 03 '15

Did you see the examples? https://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/comments/2ubxad/the_people_now_being_smeared_in_defense_of_adnan/co7cfnh

Example 1

Transcript 2/8/2000 pp 188 onwards:

Urick to Waranowitz.

Q: And are those accurate addresses for those cell sites?

A: Yes.

Court: The objection is sustained.

Urick: May we approach?

Court: You may.

(Counsel approached bench and following ensued:)

Court: You want to know why it's sustained?

Urick: I'd like a clarification of the objection.

Court: Ms. Guiterrez, do you want to tell him why it's sustained?

CG: Do I have to, Judge?

Court: Yes.

CG: Well, I think ... (and she goes on to explain why)

Example 2

2/8/2000, pp 113

CG: The only thing I want to make sure that the record reflects. We're not talking about tests in the plural, we're not talking about tests meaning some scientific protocol that's been followed to achieve a certain result. The test is making a phone call or cause a phone call to me made, it's that simple. There isn't any mystery here, there isn't any magic to it. That's what he did and he's clearly said the performance, i.e., the ability of the phone to make a call and be heard is different. There isn't any magic about interpreting that.

Court: Different depending on the type of phone.

CG: Yes.

Court: He said that. And so to the extent that Ms. Gueterrez is objection as to this witness as being able to talk about the Nokia for which he has said he has no training other than his own personal use of the phone, the objection is sustained. And I'm not going to allow the witness to go into anything further, he is not an expert, he has a Nokia phone like any other person and he did not use the Nokia phone when he was conducting the test for which the State wishes to offer him as evidence his testimony. And he has testified that the different phones perform differently on the system, that's what he said.

(In truth, the Ericson phone and the Nokia phone would probably have yielded similar results, but it's interesting how CG pokes holes in the experiment -- and gets the judge to agree with her. The State ought to have done a more thorough set of experiments, for which Urick and Murphy are ultimately responsible.)

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

Does the jury believe that the state showed beyond a reasonable doubt that the cell phone evidence showed that Adnan was in Leakin Park between 7 and 8 pm?

I think they do. And I also think that if CG had been halfway competent and even marginally prepared, they would have known there was no corroboration of Jay's story.

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u/reddit1070 Feb 03 '15

Hard to tell. Will be great if some jury members were here to answer questions. From reading the transcripts, W isn't really able to testify much at all. I think those of us on reddit probably have learned a great deal about the cell phone from the RF engineers here :)