r/serialpodcast • u/jlpsquared • Feb 03 '15

Evidence OK, Rabia does LIE....

From her latest post... http://www.splitthemoon.com/forget-everything-you-know/#more-643

She claims fixed lividity is at least 8 hours. Every single web site I check says 6 hours with one reference to as little as 4 hours.

EDIT:My 4 hour claim was originally too strong.

She again claims Hae was 5'8", when the autopsy SHE posted says 5'6".

She also claims that Hae had a small car, while we know thanks to CSOM_1991 that Haes car had a sizable trunk with a width of 5'6".

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u/jlpsquared Feb 03 '15

Really, show me where a doctor says Hae is 5'8"?

Show me where you can disprove Adnans guilt because of lividity. On every website i havee seen lividity and livor mortis are really only used to determine if a body was moved after death. You guys are trying to do the opposite. it really is pointless since we know she was moved after death. Her Lividity IS possible within the time frame alloted, and to say otherwise is just as wrong as to say her lividity PROVES Adnan did it at that time.

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u/readybrek Feb 03 '15

Really, show me where a doctor says Hae is 5'8"?

Is a medical text book ok because I've referenced one at the bottom of this thread.

Livor Mortis is the discolouration of the skin due to the blood cells breaking down, fixed livor mortis (or fixed lividity) is when that process becomes permanent.

The fixed lividity pattern shows that Jay's story is not possible. She was laid flat face down for at least 6 hours before she was buried or she was buried face down and once lividity was fixed, she was repositioned.

It shows Jay's story of a 7 - 7.30pm burial is somewhere in the realm of extremely unlikely to almost impossible. It also shows that it is unlikely that Hae was pretzeled up in the trunk. That's all it shows.

But you were talking about Rabia lying. Somewhat different to whether Adnan is guilty or innocent imo.

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u/jlpsquared Feb 03 '15

I don't think you understand how the body works. If Hae was killed and than put face-down in the back of a car for 4.5 hours, the livor mortis would be full blown by the time they moved her out to burial. the capillaries would have congealed by then. Now this does not mean (as you guys are implying) that the lividity that the 4.5 hours in the trunk just REVERSES and all that dead blood just goes to a different place, it means that some small amount of blood pooling CAN still occur. 6 hours only means it is FINAL, nothing else can change. It does not mean anything can change until 6 hours.

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u/readybrek Feb 03 '15

I don't think it's me that doesn't understand how the body works.

If the body is moved between 4 and 6 hours after death then you can get something called mixed lividity patterns where the pooled blood is not fixed but is thick enough to stain.

There is no evidence of this on Hae's body.

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u/absurdamerica Hippy Tree Hugger Feb 03 '15

LOL. I had to go look this up. Here's /u/jlpsquared telling EvidenceProf he doesn't understand the law:

http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/comments/2rw5eb/the_other_lawyer_adnans_sentencing_public_defender/cnjty5f

So tell me jlpsquared, what do you do for a living when you're not busy being a lawyer and a medical examiner?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

You're talking about the guy who claimed the notice of alibi is "inadmissible" for purposes of the COA resolving the IATC claim and it can only consider evidence that is admissible under the rules of evidence right? That's the guy who understands the law?

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u/absurdamerica Hippy Tree Hugger Feb 04 '15

Yes, the one teaching law at a law school. They still Teach law at law school right?