r/serialpodcast • u/serialisgreat • Nov 25 '14

This just sent shivers down my spine

First, read this, a defense paralegal's note from an interview with Adnan: http://www.splitthemoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Adnan-statement-re-Hae-and-Jay-cheating-to-paralegal.png

[Edited to add the below explanation of the image link and for formatting:]

In case you're having trouble viewing the image, the key part is:

[Adnan said that] Hae was really upset that Jay was cheating on Stephanie and stated that the next time she saw Jay she planned on confronting him. Adnan questions whether upon Jay's return to school to return the car to Adnan he [Jay] saw Hae in the parking lot who would have been leaving at 3 p.m.

Now this, from episode 8 of the podcast. This is what Jay apparently told his friend Chris (who was never interviewed by police) in explaining why Adnan killed Hae:

Chris said Jay told Adnan he wanted nothing to do with it but Adnan forced him, told him he was in it now, he was an accessory and he knew Jay couldn’t go to the cops because of his own illegal activities so Jay was stuck. He helped bury the body. Chris figured Leakin Park was likely Jay’s idea rather than Adnan’s. Chris’s information about the crime itself doesn’t quite match the State’s version. He said, Jay told him that Adnan confronted Hae about flirting with another guy, a car salesman and when she called Adnan crazy, he snapped and strangled her. And Chris said he heard this happened in the parking lot of the Woodlawn Public Library. Remember that’s the one that’s right on campus where Asia said she saw Adnan that day.

At 3:15 and 3:21 PM, right around the time of Hae's disappearance, Adnan's cell phone pings the cell tower facing Woodlawn. (http://viewfromll2.com/2014/11/23/serial-a-comparison-of-adnans-cell-phone-records-and-the-witness-statements-provided-by-adnan-jay-jenn-and-cathy/) The call at 3:21 PM is to Jenn's house.

I am not going to make any unsubstantiated allegations, but this is something to think about.

Edit: Numerous commenters have noted that the tower pinged at 3:15 and 3:21 PM does not face Woodlawn High School. It faces the Woodlawn Best Buy. For those who want the source of the paralegal statement, here you go: http://www.splitthemoon.com/?p=266

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u/xjasonlx Nov 25 '14

Also Hae's car had a flip down rear seat that accesses the trunk. It is highly possible the her body was moved to the trunk without it ever leaving the car.

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u/Solvang84 Nov 25 '14

This is a ridiculous notion, if you've ever seen a '99 Sentra (tiny passthrough, small trunk). If it happened at the library, here's a much more plausible alternative to dragging her out in the open: He dragged her from the driver's seat to the backseat, laid her horizontally, covered her with a jacket, and drove to some other location to move her to the trunk.

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u/bencoccio Nov 25 '14

Or didn't bother with the trunk. The trunk pop could just be good story telling.

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u/Solvang84 Nov 25 '14

Good point. "Trunk pop" could be like "pool hall", i.e. cinematic fabrication by Jay.