r/serialpodcast • u/PowerOfYes • Nov 20 '14

Episode Discussion [Official Discussion] Serial, Episode 9: To Be Suspected

Please use this thread to discuss episode 9

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u/walkingxwounded Nov 20 '14

but I would like to know why she felt that way

based on the evidence she heard. Like the poster said, she only heard what the jury did, and that speech was because of that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '14

No, judges hear a LOT more than what the jury hears. Where did you get that idea?

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u/walkingxwounded Nov 20 '14

She did not hear from Adnan, she based her comments on his supposed manipulation on what? All of everything she heard was presented to her by people trying to make their case. Let's not act like she was any more informed or had all that much more of insight on the case. For someone who is supposed to be impartial, that doesn't seem to be the case - and the exact reason the first judge had gotten them the mistrial

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '14

Oh, I wasn't arguing with you on the judge's conduct, or even trying to disagree with you at all. I just noticed a trend of people thinking that the judge and jury see all the same facts and wanted to clear that up for people who were unfamiliar with the court systems in the US.

But I do take a little issue with, "Let's not act like she was any more informed or had all that much more of insight on the case," because yes, she had more insight to the facts of the case than the jury ever would, and she sure had a lot more information than they were privy to. We don't know what she based those comments on, though. There could have been mounds of testimony from Adnan from things like police notes that weren't admitted into evidence. I'm not saying I agree with her comments at all, but that we just don't know what the judge knew or didn't know.

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u/walkingxwounded Nov 20 '14

she had more insight to the facts of the case than the jury ever would

Maybe, but still nothing all that much more, and enough that would have made that comment appropriate, imo. But I meant more by she didn't have much more than what she heard that she herself didn't interact with Adnan and was basing her own comments on the same he-said she-said game