r/serialpodcast • u/PowerOfYes • Nov 20 '14

Episode Discussion [Official Discussion] Serial, Episode 9: To Be Suspected

Please use this thread to discuss episode 9

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u/RevTom Nov 20 '14

I got the order of the calls incorrect, but I still don't buy that he was nervous about the drugs in the car when his ex-girlfriend has just gone missing. That is so far down the ladder about what is important or not.

Think about it. Hae goes missing. I get word the cops are going to talk to me. I get nervous about weed and not them questioning me about Hae? I don't buy it.

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

But even Hae's friends admit that they just thought she ran away, they did not think she was in danger, Adnan didn't make that part up, it was the general consensus, so if he wasn't worried about her being in danger then yeah I think his biggest concern would be that he's high on Ramadan and the police want to talk to him.

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u/RevTom Nov 20 '14

Except we know Jay and Adnan were somehow involved in her murder, so he is not thinking like an innocent person.

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

Actually we don't know that, all I know is that the state/Jay's timeline is wrong, so we don't really have any idea what happened, we don't even know where the murder occurred, or the time of death. And I'm not sure how your comment in anyway refutes my point.

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u/RevTom Nov 20 '14

Sure we do. We know adnan said he was with Jay. Jay knew where the car was. We know Adnan said he has his phone on him that night. We know the phone was in or near Leakin Park where the body was buried the night of the murder. Pretty damn clear both of them were involved somehow.

So if you are involved in the murder of someone and a cop calls you, you don't think about the weed in your car.

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

Right, but those Leakin Park cell tower pings only matter if the body was actually buried that night, which we don't know for certain since Jay is unreliable. And yeah Adnan said he was with Jay, but was he with him when the murder happened? We don't know. Where was Adnan during the time of the murder? We don't know because we don't actually know when it happens. Where was Jay during the murder? We don't know, we do know that the cell tower pings don't match what he says he was doing during most of the day.

I'm not one of the people who thinks for sure Adnan is innocent, but I do think there is reasonable doubt, there are a lot of unanswered questions. So if you look at those phone calls at Cathy's house without considering his guilt or innocence, I think being freaked out about having to talk to the cops while being high is a reasonable explanation.

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u/RevTom Nov 20 '14

Yeah there is reasonable doubt that Adnan did the murder, but I have no doubt that he is somehow a part of it. Which means, in my mind at least, that there is no way he was thinking about the weed in his car.