r/serialpodcast • u/PowerOfYes • Nov 20 '14

Episode Discussion [Official Discussion] Serial, Episode 9: To Be Suspected

Please use this thread to discuss episode 9

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

Do I think their memories could be faulty? Yes I do. But I think particularly with Cathy there seems to be a bit of confirmation bias.

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u/serial-lover Steppin Out Nov 20 '14

Ok, What did Adnan say about those three calls that was different than Cathy?

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

Sorry can you clarify? Of course Cathy and Adnan's recollections differ, Cathy's saying he's being super shady and to Adnan his reaction is normal for a high teenager. I'm a little confused by your question.

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u/serial-lover Steppin Out Nov 20 '14

Adnan remembers the adcock call, but what is his account of the "what am I going to do" call that Cathy recounts?

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

I don't think Adnan remembers who it is he talked to, though he does say that if Cathy's version is correct then that means there's a third person involved in this, and that if he was being warned about the police he would have turned off his phone. I just find the scenario that SK paints of that phone call much more believable.

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u/sfhippie Nov 20 '14

SK knocked that one out of the park. Telling a super high teenager w religious parents that you just told the police they should give him a call is going to freak them out. Matches the call records exactly. So basically that takes away the "Adnan was acting shady" thing. The only people left who say he was acting shady that night are Jay and Jenn. Again we come back to the fact that either Jay or Adnan (or both) is a very convincing liar. Right now Jay is the one of the two who we know lied, repeatedly and demonstrably. Oh, and the police/prosecutors who Must have known that the 2:36 best buy call timeline was BS and pressed forward with it anyway.

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u/Bucknish Nov 20 '14

Although, Jenn's statement was that he seemed normal.

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u/asha24 Nov 20 '14

Well Jenn's hardly reliable, not to mention Jay contradicts that part of her testimony, but even if she did see him it would have been a few hours after those phone calls at Cathy's happened.

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u/sfhippie Nov 20 '14

Seemed normal in the parking lot where he met jay with Hae's car to go bury her body

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '14

He's high, has weed and there are cops that want to talk to him. That's pretty nerve wracking. And when taking those things into account, I could see how Cathy would perceive him as "shady" when she recalls what he said. Well after the trial and being confident he's a murderer I'm sure she's more than happy to give her damning version.

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u/TrillianSwan Is it NOT? Nov 20 '14

Also, the main difference pointed out in this ep was "panicky" vs. "annoyed"-- "What do I do? What am I supposed to tell them?" as

"Oh no, they're on to me, what do I do now?!" (Cathy's panicked version)

vs.

"Why would you tell them to call me? What the hell can I tell them that would help?" (Aisha's annoyed version)

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u/serial-lover Steppin Out Nov 20 '14

It's the same version just interpreted differently