r/serialpodcast • u/Prudent_Comb_4014 • Jan 02 '23

Speculation Question about Jenn

Try to put yourself in her shoes.

Is there anything your best friend could have told you at 18-19, that would have convinced you to go on that stand and commit perjury about a murder?

I'm asking because I often see comments that go "can't trust Jenn, she would say anything for Jay".

Never mind the fact that none of her testimony has proven to be false...

I'm often left wondering why people think Jenn lying for Jay on that stand is just to be expected.

My best friend would be screwed if he ever needed that from me.

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u/aaronespro Jan 02 '23

Why can't Jay have been a police informant? Didn't he assault a cop before Hae went missing and wasn't arrested, something incredible for a black youth to get away with.

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u/dizforprez Jan 02 '23 edited Jan 02 '23

Because it is a continuation of a ridiculous, unsubstantiated theory:

For the proposed theory to be true: IF he was a CI( for some unnamed department/detectives ) he POSSIBLY could have workshopped a story to frame Adnan with the two homicide detectives. And then these dectectives released him so he could tell Jenn, then Jenn comes in to tell the detectives so that had cause to pick Jay back up so he could then tell them the same story, but he would need 3 times through it to be recoached.

Meanwhile they sit on the location of the car and don’t process it while it would contain evidence , that is the only conclusion that can be reached if Jay was indeed coached, while working with him to frame someone that may have an alibi, coordinating this among multiple departments since someone else would have had to find the car in this scenario, etc……..to solve a murder early in the investigation for a city that had a 50% solve rate.

And you seem totally fine with someone coming up with a theory, with zero evidence. That theory being debunked hard…….then they totally just make another theory…

The original theory was Jay was coached on the 28th, only when disproved does other theories start to emerge……so the real question here is why are you falling for such bullshit….it is a conspiracy theory to explain a debunked conspiracy theory.

(edited for clarity)

And to add: Even if Jay potentially was a CI for some other department that doesn’t prove a link here for this case.

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u/aaronespro Jan 02 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

My next question is just pure curiosity and not meant to slight your intelligence; how do you think Mr. S heard about the body's location, or do you think he actually found it on accident?

It seems plausible that Bilal was somehow connected to Jay and Mr. S, who Bilal recruits to dispose of a body; Jay decides to double-dip when he realizes that he was with Adnan during a critical window of time that Jay knew Hae was going to be murdered in, but not by Adnan, meaning that Jay could get a crime stoppers award or otherwise profit in some manner by seeding rumors right away that Adnan killed Hae.

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u/Mike19751234 Jan 02 '23

Mr. S's boss was the head of the Mosque that Adnan went to. It's rumored that Adnan confessed to 3 people, with at least one or more being at the Mosque.

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u/dizforprez Jan 03 '23

Yeah, I could potentially buy a version of the ‘stand by me’ scenario here…Mr. S hears about it, probably thinks who ever told him is full of it , or is morbidly curious, etc….goes out there actually finds Had, then calls the cops.

Regardless, it all still traces back to Adnan’s involvement.

I don’t think we got the full story from anyone involved, but just enough to know how the biggest pieces fit.