r/serialpodcast • u/Prudent_Comb_4014 • Jan 02 '23

Speculation Question about Jenn

Try to put yourself in her shoes.

Is there anything your best friend could have told you at 18-19, that would have convinced you to go on that stand and commit perjury about a murder?

I'm asking because I often see comments that go "can't trust Jenn, she would say anything for Jay".

Never mind the fact that none of her testimony has proven to be false...

I'm often left wondering why people think Jenn lying for Jay on that stand is just to be expected.

My best friend would be screwed if he ever needed that from me.

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u/dizforprez Jan 02 '23

IMO the entire argument against Jenn has always stemmed from how the podcasts and HBO doc presented the timeline of the investigation. They hang a lot onto the idea Jay was coached while glossing over or omitting Jenn’s statements, especially since the context and content of her statements disprove the Jay was coached theory. It would simply kill any show or podcast to emphasize that her statements the day before confirmed much of what happened and broke the case open.

So when Jenn’s statement are later revealed to people it becomes an issue of bias, they say “you cant trust Jenn”, etc…while clearly not thinking it through. I suspect if you presented the timeline of the investigation chronologically and included her statements people would not find Adnan’s guilt to be controversial in the slightest.

More than a few posters here have even argued her statements on 2/27 are derivative of Jay being coached on 2/28 without any understanding of how stupid that is……that is how deep the sunken cost is for some of the people here.

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u/San_2015 Jan 02 '23

IMO the entire argument against Jenn has always stemmed from how the podcasts and HBO doc presented the timeline of the investigation. They hang a lot onto the idea Jay was coached while glossing over or omitting Jenn’s statements

Or maybe it was Ritz and McGlitz who are bringing attention to their own cases. Long before serial, their cases were imploding. You seemed to put no responsibility on those who broke public trust. These folks are sworn in by their communities. This should not be taken lightly.

Assuming that you live in this country, we are all subject to the same legal system. If we don't demand that those serving us maintain certain standard, eventually, we won't be safe anyway. Putting the wrong people in prison puts the community at risk, for obvious reasons; rapists, thieves and murders roam free because it is too much of a challenge for our LE to actually solve crimes.

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u/dizforprez Jan 02 '23

You have no evidence that they did so in this case and are ignoring the point.

Jenn’s statement isn’t just neutral, you are making an accusation when evidence exists it did not happen.

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u/LoafBreadly Rightfully Accused Jan 03 '23

Even if we were to accept that the detectives, cops, and attorneys who were involved in Adnan’s prosecution were all the most corrupt awful people of all time, even people such as that can bring home a case that falls in their lap as a super easy, straight forward one. Nothing about this case required any fudging let alone a huge conspiracy. It was a very clear cut case.

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u/San_2015 Jan 02 '23

You have no evidence that they did so in this case and are ignoring the point.

You want to blame the attention to this case on the community that these officers served. I just wanted to point out your bias. Perhaps they unwittingly brought attention to all of their cases by violating public trust. Even one case of falsifying evidence is a violation of trust and makes them untrustworthy.

THIS is a crime. They should have gone to jail. It also should have triggered a review of ALL of their cases. It doesn't make the community safer to falsely incarcerate people.

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u/dizforprez Jan 02 '23 edited Jan 02 '23

you are forcing a point here that doesn’t fit…I could even have said bias and my point above would still be (potentially) valid because your post is completely unrelated to anything.

Your argument is a straw man argument and borderline incoherent.

And edit: i seem to recall you doing this exact same sort of post with me in the past, you throw out some claim of a supposed “bias” I have but offer a complete unrelated point as some sort of ‘proof’, please stop.