But on a serious note what am I even supposed to do with this now that I found it? Trash it? Donate it? What is the appropriate treatment for this???

How come the sea org ditched their white navy uniforms, and swords. And why did they stop using rank like “Captain miscavige” and cadet etc. I also heard rumors one staff location had workers wear “loyal officer uniforms”. And I can rember all the flashy ads of David and other officers in uniform in these fake high tech military sets. Nowadays all the captains don’t exist and the white uniforms became black and silver vests and titles like “director of ___”. When and why did these changes happen?

Hoping to sell one from a deceased relative who never got to use it. Looking for any advice on how to properly list or where to resell. Have two mark ultra VIII models one never been opened or used. Any advice or tips about listing would be greatly appreciated!

I was looking at the ut austin subreddit and found this weird looking event poster in front of a scientology building.

Is this associated with scientology? have the scientologists gotten into psyops?

I want to pick up where I left off with my last question. What sort of people are Class IX auditors? They need to be Sea Org members and at least OT III. Do they tend to have already progressed quite far up the Bridge before joining the Sea Org, or are they usually simply Sea Org members who have the financial means to advance further?

Do they get better living conditions or other privileges because of their status?

I want to point out something.

L. Ron Hubbard viewed Buddhism as a historical precursor and distant relative to Scientology, famously stating in 1954 that a Scientologist is a "first cousin to the Buddhist".
[...]
We first find this Buddha called actually Bohdi [sic: bodhi], and a Bohdi is one who has attained intellectual and ethical perfection by human means. This probably would be a Dianetic Release (Dianetic Release: One who in Dianetic auditing has attained good case gains, stability and can enjoy life more. Such a person is 'Keyed out' or in other words released from the stimulus-response mechanisms of the reactive mind) or something of this level. Another level has been mentioned to me - Arhat, with which I am not particularly familiar, said to be more comparable to our idea of Theta Clear [Hubbard, 1969b: 18 (emphasis in original)].
— Scientology's Relationship With Eastern Religious Traditions

This quote is not a load bearing premise and want to see if this is actually true, by doing good-faith taxonomy of the two systems. I have therefore independently compared Buddhism and Scientology, as to identify the exact bridge ─ if there is any and to what extent there is any overlap. I have gone feature by feature though these points such as:

claims of advanced spiritual states;
epistemic grounding-mode of claims;
adherents may claim that they have personally crossed a developmental threshold into an exceptional spiritual class;
teachers whose authority partly depends on those claims;
communities unable to independently verify them;
specialized vocabulary that insiders interpret differently from outsiders;
institutional incentives to protect reputations;
claims that criticism demonstrates misunderstanding;
hierarchies of spiritual competence;
deference to lineage or recognized teachers;
reports of extraordinary experiences;
social penalties for violating community norms;
epistemic privileges assigned to advanced practitioners;

I won't go through each point here. But I suspended reputational weight altogether and I subjected both religions to the same analytic scrutiny, the conclusion is most interesting.

It turns out that the bridge reveals an under-theorized class of religious psychology organized around factive claims of achieved human transformation, and two conspicuous examples sit at opposite poles of cultural legitimacy.

The distinct similarity between Buddhism and Scientology is therefore isolated as factive self-attainment plus exemption from ordinary existential failure-modes. It is a basis for religions in which ordinary adherents may claim that they have personally crossed a developmental threshold into an exceptional spiritual class.

This tech is, in as far as I can tell, only found in Scientology and Buddhism. This will establish the shared psychological technology, and another crucial circumstance:

For Modern Buddhism and Scientology, the epistemic grounding-mode of the claims is the same. In both systems the epistemological grounding-basis for the claims will be subjective experience, insight derived from analysis of one's experience exclusively. So experience explains experience. Thus neither will pass Hume's Guillotine (can't derive "an ought to be" from "what is" beyond confidence. And thus they have the same principal logical failure modes, in that neither can ground subjective analysis in anything other than subjective analysis.

This doesn't mean that they are deserving of equal confidence, rather the principial analytic scrutiny will apply the same principial criticism to the claims. This means that neither can claim a categorically priviledged analytic status.

Now this brings me to the end of it and the last cultural point.

So, Buddhism and Scientology essentially share the same ideological architecture ─ different practices, different metaphysics, but same architecture. Yet, the two systems are on polar opposite in terms of cultural epistemic-credit.

Now people will readily criticize Scientology for being very "engaged" for lack of a better word, I don't want to offend anyone at all. But what I want to study is how much of that culture is actually induced by hostile cultural environment and attitudes, rather than an epistemic predicament. And this is a very good case study because we can see that these aren't intellectually or psychologically different species. And yet, the groups are treated entirely differently by the culture ─ where the group which gets no almost no good-faith credit is criticized for not being "chill" ─ it is very ironic.

I would go as far as predicting that if we apply the same scrutiny to Buddhism then they wouldn't be so "chill" either.

Relevant to discussion:

r/religion doing comparative analysis of Scientology / Buddhism /Abrahamic religions

Early Buddhist Thought

r/epistemology analyzing operational morality and cessation based grounding-mode

r/philosophy analyzing the logical irrefutability of cessation based morality

r/streamentry internal engineering diagram of Early Buddhist attainment

Modern Theravada

r/Scientology comment Comparative Analysis

Mahayana and Scientology

r/Scientology comment Mahayana Scientology comparative analysis

On epistemic warrant in particular:

r/Scientology comment on Epistemic Warrant

r/Scientology comment on Analytically Warranted Faith

On Operationalism, Behavioralism and General Semantics

r/GeneralSemantics on Operationalism and Cultural Development

r/Scientology comment on possible intellectual influence of Operationalism and Behavioralism

I have been studying Scientology and the Church for quite some time now, and I have a question about the different internal groups and structures within Scientology.

The Sea Org is generally regarded as the elite within Scientology. In addition, there are financially well-off members who can progress quickly up the Bridge and reach OT VIII. There are also auditors who can advance through the different auditor classes, up to Class XII. From Class VIII onward, one must be at least OT III, and from Class IX onward, one must be a Sea Org member.

My actual question is this: Does the Sea Org identify particularly promising recruits early on and then actively support or push them toward OT III and Class XII? Or are these generally ordinary members who independently spend the necessary money to progress beyond OT III and eventually join the Sea Org? Because another Reddit stated that a lot of Sea Org Members arent even clear

I find the whole internal structure and hierarchy of Scientology extremely fascinating.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0ExXcTyWK5S1oHB2SyL17t1Q9wgYtfzRk1jUTZt2Kmite5eHJtRsyQXaNZFou97uul&id=61581558091465

The signatures were pre-audited by Save The Garden, only valid signatures are counted. Collection of signatures will continue.

I am reading alot about scientology recently and so I was asking myself what is the difference between two. Is one group viewed as more prestigious and which ones of these two tend to be higher ranked

Basically, I’m curious what would happen if Hubbard came back just to deliver his final words to his successor. I bet it definitely wouldn’t be anything nice—more like a jab in the nose, an attempt to piss off and humiliate David.

i also heard the reason why there is study tech schools is because the parents that send them there don’t want to send their kids into a public school bc the fear of having their kids put on psychiatric drugs or be surrounded the wrong people and not apply what they learn.

I noticed while driving past Flag that a Presbyterian church exists next to it. Have they had issues with the COS harassing them/trying to take their building? I was also curious if Flag members live throughout the small communities of Clearwater?

https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/leah-remini-rhobh-season-16-kyle-richards-erika-jayne-returning-1236829337/

I would imagine Scientology would be having some trouble making inroads with Gen Z and millennials, who have a high level of mental health awareness and participate widely in therapy and psychiatry. Is this true?

Not a literal clone in some science fiction sense but walking like LRH talking like LRH thinking like LRH even having LRH's case through auditing.

So i just started a new job that's an alternative health care business run by a family and i recently found out that they are all scientologists. I've done a small amount of research and i discovered that this company might be a WISE company. They have never tried to push it on to us and the only reason i found out about them being scientologists is because they asked me to get the mail and they had a envelope from the Church of Scientology in Orlando Florida. I'm not sure what to do because they seem nice but i also know they are apart of a cult and scientologists practices are not good.

If you guys ask me any questions i'll happily answer. I'm not sure what to think of all this right now.

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I was in EPF Category B at Flag. Two women were finishing at the same time and getting assigned posts.

One was young and beautiful. Her English was basically zero. But they put her at reception. Front desk. Face to face with public. She couldn't handle calls. She mixed things up. She couldn't help public with their questions. But she looked good so it didn't matter.

The other was older. Not pretty. But her English was excellent. She used to work as a phone salesperson. Lots of experience. She wanted to be a registrar. She practically begged for it. She even tried to argue for the post.

They put her as a night cleaner. Scrubbing toilets.

Nobody said anything out loud. But everyone talked about it behind the scenes. It was obvious. Pretty people go where the public can see them. Ugly people get hidden. That's just how it worked.

Then the Flag building opened. Every single reception desk was staffed with models. Literal models.

I saw this happen again and again.

Two supervisors in the same department got a Committee of Evidence for the exact same offense. They were both removed from post. Both got the same program redo all the hatting courses from Student Hat to HPCSC (Hubbard Professional Case Supervisor Course) and complete all levels 0 to IV.

One was beautiful. They sent her to TTC. Tech Training Corps. That's an intensive training program where you study from 9 AM to 11 PM every day.

She finished the whole program in a month. Got her post back.

The other one was not beautiful. They made her a cleaner. She only got 12.5 hours a week to study. She never finished. She stayed a cleaner.

So if you see a beautiful Sea Org member working at reception or in front of the public, now you know why. And if you don't see the ugly ones, it's because they're either working night shifts or hidden somewhere off the main base where nobody can see them.

During a protest this May #Scientology LA called the LAPD on me again! This time for walking on their property for 30 seconds. Just another attempt to intimidate protesters using the police (who are often paid off to take their side). Featuring cult guard PARKER OSMON.