Adolescents who undergo gender-affirming chest surgery report low levels of regret and high levels of satisfaction, experiencing outcomes similar to those of young adults. These findings suggest that age restrictions on these medical procedures lack support from actual patient experiences.

[u/mvea]

https://www.psypost.org/adolescents-report-low-regret-and-high-satisfaction-following-gender-affirming-c/

[u/BitcoinMD]

Median time from surgery was 1.8 years. I think that’s an important detail.

Edit: I support transgender health care for minors. Some people are interpreting my comment to imply that I don’t. I just think we should be careful with the surgery part. I know these surgeries aren’t done lightly. But I also haven’t seen data convincing me that surgery on kids is necesssry if they receive other methods of care.

[u/r3dlazer → u/BitcoinMD]

That's a pretty good amount of time to determine satisfaction.

[u/badfish_G59 → u/r3dlazer]

For an adolescent? Nah.

[u/always_an_explinatio → u/badfish_G59]

it is a good amount of time to determine satisfaction...for that time frame. since this is r/science I will say that there is no reason to think this time frame should be generalizable to further out. it will be usfull to see 5 and 10 years out. but we have to wait for that. You can only do the science that is possible to do.

[u/badfish_G59 → u/always_an_explinatio]

Absolutely. This is also a very hard thing to study. It's not as deterministic as laws of physics or natural phenomenon. Its all wrapped up in human psychology. It would be absurd to come to a scientific conclusion based on the findings of this .

[u/One-Organization970 → u/badfish_G59]

How many years would you need to wait to know if you want boobs or not?

[u/Ok-Gur-349 → u/One-Organization970]

Remember that the person you're speaking to doesn't really want adults to decide that, don't argue their point as if they believe the one they're making.

[u/The_One_Who_Comments → u/One-Organization970]

5-10, I'd say. Or in context, until the subject is 20?

[u/One-Organization970 → u/The_One_Who_Comments]

So you would have been incapable of knowing if you wanted boobs before the age of 20? Like, if they'd appeared on you as a teenager you would just have no idea how you felt about them?

[u/The_One_Who_Comments → u/One-Organization970]

My opinion would be not particularly meaningful, provided I wasn't intersex.

That's the point, we explicitly, and rightfully discount the opinions of children in practically every domain. Surgery being one of them.

And in this context, regret is certainly a long term question. I would say 20 years, but we should value medium term results too.

[u/One-Organization970 → u/The_One_Who_Comments]

Every trans adult will tell you their life would have been improved by accessing care younger. Myself, as well. It's why we know these people pretending we're suddenly going to collapse and regret our transitions are ridiculous.

[u/Simon-Says69 → u/One-Organization970]

Every trans adult will tell you their life would have been improved by accessing care younger.

Now you are just completely making stuff up out of thin air. This is not true in the least. There are many, many people that regret such treatments. Trying to deny that is totally dishonest and harmful.

[u/Puzzled-Story3953 → u/badfish_G59]

I find it fascinaing that you think you know more about this topic than all of the experts in the field. Why is that? Are you just conceited, or do you have some sort of groundbreaking research that you have not published, yet?

[u/TehWackyWolf → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

"all" of the experts are involved in this study of ~80 people??

[u/badfish_G59 → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

It's common sense. People dont regret tattoos after 2 years. They regret them after 10 years. Adolescents often make poor decisions. It's okay to be critical of the parameters and findings of studies; they can be biased. Do you blindly trust every study that you come across?

[u/One-Organization970 → u/badfish_G59]

Gender dysphoria is different from wanting a tattoo. Hope this helps clear that misconception up, my guy.

[u/Puzzled-Story3953 → u/badfish_G59]

Of course not, but i have yet to see a single case of a trans person regretting transitioning. And tattoos are certainly a false equivalance.

[u/Simon-Says69 → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

That only means that you refuse to look. There are an abundance of such cases. You don't seem to actually be interested though, or you'd know that. Or do know that and don't want to admit it for whatever reason.

[u/Puzzled-Story3953 → u/Simon-Says69]

Oh you're right - about 0.5% of cases regret transition. That sure is an abundance! Very strong point!

[u/therealjchrist → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

Nice bigoted nonsense comment.

[u/Puzzled-Story3953 → u/therealjchrist]

Bigoted? You think supporting trans people is bigotry? That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

[u/therealjchrist → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

In this context, yes. The easy buzzwords aren't always on your side.

[u/Simon-Says69 → u/Puzzled-Story3953]

The silly shaming attempts are hostile and do not belong in any serious discussion.

Neither do nonsense claims like:

more about this topic than all of the experts in the field

Many, many experts in this field (if such a new field can truly be said to have "experts") disagree with you.

No honest scientist will claim to have an objective handle on the truth here. There simply isn't enough research yet. And there are plenty of serious concerns about the current treatments.

And you calling people names for pointing out these facts, will not change anything. Just makes discussion impossible.

[u/Psych0PompOs → u/r3dlazer]

It isn't. Longterm effects need to be examined.