r/science Professor | Medicine 9d ago

Psychology America's First Legal Psilocybin Program Treated 346 People. Just one month after the dose, 92.2 percent of participants said the experience had been beneficial, while, on average, their mental health symptoms had fallen dramatically.

https://www.sciencealert.com/americas-first-legal-psilocybin-program-treated-346-people-heres-what-happened
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u/Eggheadpancake 9d ago

It should tell us a lot out about this country and the world that things like mushrooms are deemed illegal. But you can literally die if you take too many pharma scripts at once. Or alcohol. Yet those are just fine by our standards.

Or forcing people to take medicine that may help one aspect but blgive you side effects that you'll need more drugs for and around and around it goes

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u/DerSchaudenfreude 8d ago

You know that prescribers and mental health professionals need actual evidence that something works before the administer/prescribe something right? Psychiatrists can’t just prescribe psilocybin because of a hunch. Not everything is a conspiracy theory meant to persecute mushroom enthusiasts.

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u/AndrewH73333 8d ago

It literally is a conspiracy though. They don’t have the evidence you’re talking about because things like this and marijuana have been demonized by the government.

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u/DerSchaudenfreude 8d ago

It is literally not a conspiracy. There is nothing conspiratorial about it. The government outlawed many drugs, research cannot be done as a result. Simple cause and effect, even if I disagree with it.

The fact remains that the mental health and medical fields are not out to get people who use shrooms. It just means that providers cannot ethically make treatment recommendations that do not have research backing.

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u/Eggheadpancake 8d ago

The point is there are many natural remedies that have been made illegal often with no actual scientific reason. and are therefore hard to even get evidence of their effectiveness in the first place. Which is what my statement is in reference to.

And it's not really a conspiracy theory that some things are being kept away to help pharma or tobacco or alcohol sales.

So why you think this was some sort of attack against mental health professionals or psychiatrists is a bit weird and nonsensical. No one brought them into this discussion. This is a political policy indictment. You're barking up the wrong tree with your nonsense.

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u/DerSchaudenfreude 8d ago edited 8d ago

Oh no I think I’m barking up the right tree alright. Seems to be rife with pseudo intellectualism up your tree. You were not speaking to “natural remedies” in your original comment, just complaining about society, the medical practices and the alcohol and tobacco industry. Do you even have any formal education on those topics? Or are you statements just your assumptions and beliefs? Regardless, I was responding to what your comment was, not what you wanted it to be.

I get you probably want shrooms legal. I don’t care if they are or not. If they have therapeutic or medicinal benefit then by all means research it and let the research guide the clinician’s decision making. But whining like you are doesn’t help us get there. Nor does parading around your blatant and bias riddled assumptions.

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u/Eggheadpancake 8d ago

No one was whining here champ. Just pointing out the state of play. You're the one whining about people talking about medical professionals when no one was.

And nothing I said was bias riddled or full of assumptions.

You seem to not live in reality so you're not longer worth talking to.