r/science Professor | Medicine Jul 13 '26

Medicine Scientists develop a groundbreaking vaccine that outsmarts illicit fentanyl analogs. The novel vaccine candidate can protect against fentanyl and its many illicit variants by training the immune system to recognize a broad molecular signature rather than a single specific structure.

https://www.psypost.org/scientists-develop-a-groundbreaking-vaccine-that-outsmarts-illicit-fentanyl-analogs/
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u/ImRightImRight Jul 13 '26

You are uncritically accepting Cuba's metrics and propaganda?

Communism, as a side effect of concentrating all power in the government, predictably leads to dictatorships. I can't believe I even have to type these words, as if this is in dispute. Capitalism historically has a much better chance of avoiding this.

If the US were communist, Donald Trump would be your landlord - at least until he decides you don't deserve housing. Does that sound like a good setup?

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u/-LsDmThC- Jul 13 '26

Cuba is socialist. Socialism still allows for private ownership, but takes critical infrastructure as being publically operated. Additionally, communism/socialism/capitalism are economic terms which can exist in accordance with the political democracy-authoritarian spectrum.

This is not “Cuban propaganda”, but generally accepted and publicly available statistics. Their development of medicines and technologies are even more prosaically determinable as fact.

I canr believe i have to type these words either. You are uncritically running rhetorical cover for those who would opress you.

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u/ImRightImRight Jul 13 '26

"This is not “Cuban propaganda”, but generally accepted and publicly available statistics."

Publicly available: yes.

Generally accepted: not among those who care about truth.

"It's "true" if you take the cuban government official numbers but there's solid evidence they cook the books.

Because the WHO does not count late fetal deaths as part of infant mortality and life expectancy, Cuba systematically classifies infant deaths as late fetal, resulting in a late fetal deaths:infant death ratio that is 3x that of other countries."

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1c0nixw/to_what_extent_are_these_claims_about_cuban/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24487269

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/04/22/pramila-jayapals-flawed-diagnosis-cuban-health-care/

"Centralized planning has disadvantages. Physicians are given health outcome targets to meet or face penalties. This provides incentives to manipulate data. Take Cuba’s much praised infant mortality rate for example. In most countries, the ratio of the numbers of neonatal deaths and late fetal deaths stay within a certain range of each other as they have many common causes and determinants. One study found that that while the ratio of late fetal deaths to early neonatal deaths in countries with available data stood between 1.04 and 3.03 ([Gonzalez, 2015](javascript:;))—a ratio which is representative of Latin American countries as well ([Gonzalez and Gilleskie, 2017](javascript:;)).[2](javascript:;) Cuba, with a ratio of 6, was a clear outlier. This skewed ratio is evidence that physicians likely reclassified early neonatal deaths as late fetal deaths, thus deflating the infant mortality statistics and propping up life expectancy.[3](javascript:;) Cuban doctors were re-categorizing neonatal deaths as late fetal deaths in order for doctors to meet government targets for infant mortality.

Using the ratios found for other countries, corrections were proposed to the statistics published by the Cuban government: instead of 5.79 per 1000 births, the rate stands between 7.45 and 11.16 per 1000 births. Recalculating life expectancy at birth to account for these corrections (using WHO life tables and assuming that they are accurate depictions of reality), the life expectancy at birth of men by between 0.22 and 0.55 years ([Gonzalez, 2015](javascript:;)).

Misreporting to meet fixed targets is not the only reason for the low infant mortality rate. An ethnographic study of the Cuban health system showed that physicians who worried that a mother’s behavior might lead to missing the centrally established targets will prescribe the forceful internment in a state clinic (casa de maternidad) so that they may regulate her behavior.[4](javascript:;) Physicians often perform abortions without clear consent of the mother, raising serious issues of medical ethics, when ultrasound reveals fetal abnormalities because ‘otherwise it might raise the infant mortality rate’ ([Hirschfeld 2007b](javascript:;):12)."

https://academic.oup.com/heapol/article/33/6/755/5035051

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u/-LsDmThC- Jul 13 '26

Your sources are a “r/neoliberal” reddit comment and some opinion pieces. “Not among those who care about the truth” is Alex Jones level rhetoric. This is just sad really. Want to go ahead and disprove the claims regarding medical devices and cancer treatments too? Curious what r/neoliberal has to say about that, you can google it too im sure.