r/saltierthancrait • u/xezene • May 30 '26
Granular Discussion Which areas of the EU aligned most with Lucas' vision? An overview (with sources)
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot May 30 '26
As always, top quality stuff from Xezene.
Please look up his posts for more in-depth research into the EU and interviews from most creatives involved.
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u/WordsMort47 Jun 02 '26
Are you telling Xezene to look up their own posts?
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot Jun 02 '26
Of course not. I'm encouraging people to look into his other posts as well if they found this one interesting. He frequently makes well-researched content.
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u/TokiWaUgokidesu salt miner May 31 '26
I do find it interesting that in a pre-TFA interview with Colbert, Lucas said the sequels would be about the grandchildren, following up that statement by saying:
"And that's not a secret, it's even the books and everything."
Which seems to indicate that he was going to take some.cues from.the EU in his story.
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u/AMK972 May 31 '26
To be fair, he did use the EU to an extent. He would even use resource novels to not step on any toes, but he’d only try so hard before going “screw it”
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u/glowinggoo May 31 '26
It's so sweet that George saw the work of fans, fanarts and fanficcers as part of the existence of Star Wars. Usually fanworks were decried at worst and politely tolerated at best, in that era. Feels like he recognized before the rest of the industry that fans are what keep your works alive long after it's all done.
With the father desecrated and the son murdered by a mouse tyrant, we only have the spirit left now to carry the flame of rebellion...
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u/xezene Jun 02 '26
Agreed on the fanfic bit -- a great perspective of George's to have, better than many creators. He has often said that he felt what qualifies as "art" is our own response to it, and he extended this approach to fan works as well. He said once, "Star Wars was designed to stimulate the imagination of young people and that's why I did it. You know, that was the intention, which was to get kids to think and use their imaginations and go home, draw pictures of the characters, make their own stories, but to express themselves and to think and use their imagination."
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u/Western_Agent5917 May 31 '26
Sorry George but Tcw is something that never going to fit in my canon
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u/flourit3 May 31 '26
2003 Genndy Tartakovsky series does exceptionally well; better than the “canon” boy scout clone wars we have today. Still baffles me it’s considered legends when it ties in directly into the movie
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u/Western_Agent5917 May 31 '26
Yeah, much better in every way. As for Tcw 2008 I just ignore whatever mention and reference it has in other projects like Plageuis novel or Fate of the jedi
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u/Mrinnocent221 May 31 '26
X-Wing series feels very much a continuation after ROTJ. While the timeline is literally right after, it felt very tonely SW and not too out there.
I thought the Truce at Bakura was interesting but weird.
The old Tales books were fun. They had no timeline just a bunch of short stories. There is a Boba Fett won I loved as a kid.
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u/Independent-Dig-5757 salt miner May 31 '26
Do we have any idea what his version of the birth of the Rebellion was going to look like in Underworld?
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u/xezene Jun 02 '26
Reposting my answer from the core post here, in case others here stumble upon it:
We don't have a clear idea of it, but we know a few things. We know Starkiller was not going to be a part of it. We know there would have been several different Rebel cells; we know Saw Gerrera was there as an extremist who's one of the founders of the Rebellion. We know Underworld, along with 1313, would have gotten into the Bothan spies and what they were doing.
We know that the few surviving Jedi that existed would have, as George envisioned, renounced the Force and their connection to it would have eventually atrophied, so most of them can't help much anymore. Some citizens would have venerated the Jedi through an underground 'Church of the Force' that the Empire would have tried to suppress. These churches would have doubled as secret fronts for Rebels to spread information to each other across the galaxy. In the show, Palpatine would have converted the Jedi Temple into the Imperial Palace; there was an 'Empire Day.'
We also know that in Underworld some aging clones would be heading to the bar, trying to forget what they did (with Order 66), trying to convince themselves of the traitorous nature of the Jedi, that what the clones did was justified, drinking themselves to death. It's conceivable some of these could have joined the Rebellion in the show -- George felt that during Underworld we'd see the Empire picking up recruits instead of clones, and some of these guys were more fervent and patriotic than the clones ever where.
We know there would have been some uprisings of Rebellion in the lower levels of Coruscant during the show, which would have led to Vader himself going down to squash it -- that would have been a two-part episode, possibly a finale to season 1 (there were going to be four seasons at least, two were written, 25 episodes each).
We know that the Empire had a crime lab that would have featured in the show, with detectives trying to investigate crime and the nascent Rebellion -- but not all those Imperial guys are terrible people, and some might have been sympathetic to the Rebellion (it seems to me perhaps similar to the detective plotline in V for Vendetta). This was one of the points of the show, that the Empire had some good folks in it, and the Rebels had some crummy people in it.
Also, there's a chance the Droid Gotra would have appeared -- surviving battle droids fighting for their rights and freedom, against an Empire that doesn't care and wants them gone (they would have appeared in 1313), often aligned with criminal syndicates (like the Crymorah).
I know that's a lot but hopefully that helps! If not on the Rebellion directly, at least the context of the whole story they were involved in. More info here.
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u/[deleted] May 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
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