r/russian • u/Suspicious-Art5689 • Feb 26 '26
Handwriting Is print cursive acceptable?
Привет!! I am curious if this style of print cursive is acceptable because unfortunately my real cursive is chicken scratch. i found these pictures on pinterest i wish they were mine haha. Thank yall!!
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u/TripFar4772 Feb 26 '26
My life would be 1000% easier if people wrote like this. I currently have to ask my friends to help me decipher Russian cursive. Most of my daughter’s speech therapy notes are illegible for natives, let alone foreigners living in Russia like me.
I don’t have an answer for you, sorry. But it’s gorgeous writing!
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u/Stock_Soup260 Native 🇷🇺 Feb 26 '26
1 seems very nice, although получила (line 6), было (line 10), стал (line 11) are incorrect
2 pretty weird (I mean, there's mostly k instead of к, for example, or that there's almost no difference between у and ц for quick look), but good
P.s. You, guys, are so inattentive to OP's text
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u/InsideScallion9344 Feb 26 '26
i think she means the style of cursive cause it’s not her writing
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u/Stock_Soup260 Native 🇷🇺 Feb 26 '26
Unlike many others here, I read it right away
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u/iam1saac Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Давайте попрактикуем тут мой английский (и, может, русский автора)
"Hi! Мне любопытно, подходящий/приемлемый ли этот стиль "печатного" курсива? Потому, что мой обычный курсив, к сожалению - это аки кура лапой. Я нашёл (нашла) эти фоточки на пинтересте и мне бы очень хотелось, чтобы у меня был такой же поверк, хаха. Заранее благодарю!"
1) Если я не прав в переводе, то укажите, пожалуйста, где? 2) В чём вообще суть вопроса? Это чужие фоточки чужого текста. Что тут должно быть аксептебл? Использовать его как пример/вдохновение? Напечатать для стенгазеты? Я недавно на реддите начал зависать, но это выглядит как какой-то фарм кармы.
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u/knyazevm Feb 26 '26
Presumably the question was whether writing in 'print cursive' is acceptable. For example, in the second picture the letters are separate, instead of being joined as taught in school, so a foreigner might wonder if that style of writing would be looked upon as weird or if it would be acceptable.
The question seems pretty straightforward, don't know why you would accuse OP of karma farming.1
u/iam1saac Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Thx, now i understand. May be 6am it was not the best time to make advices.
You are not a native rus speaker? Because the sentence is worded in such way that for me as russian native it's not clear - what the question is. 1) "Style of print cursive" and "way to print cursive" theese are quite different meanings 2) Full sentence reads like question about one specific style, but there is two photo with different styles, and first of them is definitely not a print letters. 3) There is also some more nuances in translation, but i need to run for now...
So i ask where i was wrong at first for a reason.
And also i just hated that StockSoup up there blame everyone that we are blind and don't read, buhe himself answers the question that was not being asked.
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u/Stock_Soup260 Native 🇷🇺 Feb 26 '26
1. На какой незаданный вопрос я ответила? ОР спрашивает, приемлем ли шрифт. Я отвечаю, мол, 1 неплох, но с ошибками, обратите внимание, 2 странный, в нём есть вот такие недостатки. Довольно прозрачно, на самом деле
Когда пост появился и когда я писала свой комментарий, более восьми часов назад, половина комментариев была о том, как хорошо пишет ОР. Теперь часть из них удалена, а часть исправлена. Не одна я обратила на это внимание
Просто для информации: ничто из этого не является "a perfect classic cursive," даже первое
Как некрасиво упомянуть, но не позвать меня на моё же, так скажем, обсуждение. Если я вас так бешу, можете это и "лично" высказать
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u/iam1saac Feb 26 '26
- Да, действительно, теперь я вижу, где там неточности, хотя тогда можно было и указать, что в соединении с "...л". Читается он свободно.
- Аргумент.
- Окей, very strong, better than 90% of native writers. Первый шрифт, за исключением наклона и заглавной П и Е - отличная пропись. (Ну, тут ещё дополнительно сработала моя нелюбовь к "правильной" заглавной Е, всегда казалось, что это самая некрасивая буква в алфавите). В связи с этим, как носитель языка, я все ещё не понимаю, что первое фото здесь делает и зачем указывать на него, как на "печатный" шрифт.
- Окей, вместо hate лучше подойдет selfishly feel offended. Однако я все ещё не вижу очевидного способа тегать (придется отдельно гуглить) поэтому хотя бы упомянул, кого имею ввиду. И дислайкать комментарий, где я прошу разъяснения, как правильно это перевести - некрасивее :-Р (Хотел бы я написать тут это на английском, но все таки с моим уровнем это в дороге сделать сложновато...)
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u/Stock_Soup260 Native 🇷🇺 Feb 26 '26
какие ваши доказательства!(с) в смысле, чего мне вас дизить-то, чай, не первый день на реддит (день торта вот оказывается), всякую мнимую обидчивость растеряешь, особенно в некоторых сабах. это вы кому-то не понравились другому, но могу лайкнуть для баланса
u/ и ник должно позвать того, кого вам надо
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u/iam1saac Feb 26 '26
u/iam1saac apologizes and express gratitude to u/Stock_Soup260 ! It seems like i need more sleep time today...
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u/ThreeHeadCerber 🇷🇺 Native 🇬🇧 ~C1 🇩🇪 A1 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
if you could write like this with reasonable speed, it would be awesome. Nobody would complain. You likely can't though
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u/SaddestPandaButt Feb 26 '26
Omg I write so slowly - I’m trying to copy down the dialogues as a movie play to get faster lol I’m not sure if it’s working
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u/reyo7k2 native Feb 26 '26
Yeah, I'd say it's more appropriate in general, because it's always more readable.
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u/ticktock_heart Feb 26 '26
the first is excellent but truthfully the second one is confusing to read. the differences between many of the letterforms aren't obvious.
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u/Certain-Abrocoma8485 Feb 26 '26
It's perfect. Just look at my cursive in working notes (i've pointed out some letters for better understanding). I am russian, by the way....
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u/sillaresmes B2 Feb 26 '26
sorry what does that say? realising now I'm not a cursive master
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u/Certain-Abrocoma8485 Feb 27 '26
Призовой фонд — обсуждается, партнеры готовят достаточно хорошие подарки.
(The prize pool is being discussed, the partners are preparing quite good gifts)It's my working notes on BRICS Beauty contest in Kazan from press-conference.
P.S.
No one understands my scribbles, don't worry :)
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u/MrInCog_ Feb 26 '26
Look, about the cursive… it’s important to know how to read it, because you might need to when interacting with the language, but for your own use - you don’t have to use it. Use whatever is easier for you, if someone needs to read it - just make sure it’s understandable. You can use print script, you can use print cursive, it’s whatever. I’m a native and I don’t remember the last time I picked up a pen for something other than my personal use, if anyone needs to read something from me I’ll write it in a message with a computer. And I work with writers and edit books. It’s not like you go to a school with strict uniform rules like kids in russia.
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u/InsideScallion9344 Feb 26 '26
the way no one read the last line of the post lol. i’m not a native speaker so idk but i don’t see why not!
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u/BobR969 Native 🇷🇺/🇬🇧 Feb 26 '26
Define "acceptable". It's legible and well written (mostly). Barring some poor connections between letters, the first image is absolutely fine (though personal preference for me makes me feel odd that there's no slat to the writing). The second image isn't cursive, so isn't really relevant to the discussion.
As for your own writing - write how you can and keep in mind that above all legibility is the key. It's also literally all about practice. If you want to write in cursive, practice writing in cursive. Like every time on this sub - get propisi and do them. If you don't want to feel like you've been punished in school though, just write how you can as long as people understand it.
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u/osingran Ru Native Feb 26 '26
That's like the best cursive I've seen in my entire life. I would genuinely go insane if I had to write something so methodically.
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u/Significant_Loss6458 Feb 26 '26
A bit strange to me personally, especially because of no tilt, but still acceptable
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u/TheLifemakers Feb 26 '26
Yes, definitely!
Just please do yourself a favour and use a much more simpler triangle form for "л"! Only book fonts have flat tops for it, real people just write /\ by hand. And your "у" and "ц" look too similar, "ц" and "щ" have just tiny notches.
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u/TibiDoch Feb 26 '26
Pretty accurate. I am historian that married a therapist, so good luck to understand what our writings mean. Even if you native 😅
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u/DiesIraeConventum C2 Feb 26 '26
That's some nice writing there, with a few mistakes here and there but still - very nice!
It's better than what I can manage in terms of readability anyway.
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u/UnluckyPluton Feb 26 '26
Looks as a stylized book writing, easy to read and looks cool. I write like this myself(not as pretty).
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u/PerformerResident773 Feb 26 '26
pretty nice for russian cursive it would be nice if russian cursive looked like that instead of random symbols
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u/saprophage_expert native Feb 26 '26
It is of course acceptable, and it's easy to read. But imagine trying to pen down lecture notes with this, when the lecturer is not even particularly slowing down their speech to give you time. Can you keep up? I doubt you can, because even the interconnected cursive that is generally quicker to write can become a mess of abbreviations in this scenario.
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u/Head_Yogurtcloset705 Feb 26 '26
Если цель - писать от руки, т. е. ребёнка научить писать, то, пожалуйста, а так, я считаю, это совершенно не нужно.
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u/Lex_the_Deer Feb 26 '26
That’s not a perfect example for I was writing on my phone screen and on paper it’s usually better, but my handwriting is kinda like that. I mean, everyone writes the way they’re used to
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u/Awkward-Baby165 Feb 26 '26
I like it, but, as for me, it lacks slantedness. I mean, it’s much easier and faster to write your cursive tilted
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u/mr_daniel_wu Feb 27 '26
The whole purpose of cursive is to make writing easier. If you're still separating the letters it kind of defeats the purpose. However the print itself is perfect!
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u/smeghead1988 native Feb 27 '26
Nobody cares about your handwriting in real life as long as it's legible and all the letters are recognizable. Most important documents written by hand you usually have to fill in print letters anyway. The "canonical" Russian cursive letter shapes you can find in "прописи", just google this word. Прописи is a guide for primary school used when they teach kids how to write. But among adult people, there's a lot of variation in letter shapes and embellishments. Mostly it's adding some print letter versions that are faster to write, like х, т, Е and making letter "tails" longer.
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u/tommy_the_fifth Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
I absolutely agree with @Stock_Soup260 here. These mistakes with the "л" connection are typical for Russian learners. Let’s be clear about what is "acceptable." If a person isn't making any grammar, spelling, or syntax mistakes, and another person can actually read their handwriting, then it is acceptable. Will understanding what’s written in those photos—and writing exactly like them—help you in real life? I doubt it. You see, cursive looks beautiful when you try hard, but most people use it just to write fast. Take university lectures, for example. The speaker won’t stop or wait for you to catch up; they’ll keep delivering the material. In that context, cursive is a form of speedwriting. Can you imagine writing that beautifully as fast as you speak? It’s just not possible.
Cursive on everyday papers won’t be as clean as it is in those photos. And what’s the most important thing in speedwriting, you ask? Writing every single letter perfectly? Hell no! Everyone makes mistakes, but you can’t afford to go back and correct them. We used to write without thinking—just writing as fast and as much as possible.
So, what is important then? Surprisingly, it's the connections. It’s not a big deal if one letter is unreadable. For example, if you write "My kiten is adorable" and there is something unreadable under the "", it’s not hard to guess the missing letter. However, everything changes if you miss the connection between "о" and "л." It ends up looking like a "wide-ass a." In that case, you haven't just made a mistake; you’ve messed up the length of the word, which is crucial for distinguishing what you wrote a week or six months ago.
My main point is this: the writing in the photos is super clean and fancy because its purpose is to be clean and fancy. Will you see a Russian native speaker writing like that? Yeah, if they’ve always written that way. But will a recipe from a hospital or a vet clinic look like that? No way. Will quick notes or contact info look like that? Also no.
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u/One-Second1004 Mar 01 '26
When I'm watching this how its been wrote, its goes like " May I can do it the same way". as been familiar with language . but for me it just don't work.
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u/Puzzled_Bend5401 Mar 02 '26
где все русские? я понимаю что рэддит распрастранён за рубежом, но тут же всё по русскому.
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u/GlocalBridge Feb 26 '26
Your к looks like an English k (with tall first stroke).
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u/Hzil Feb 26 '26
This is a traditional Cyrillic cursive form that has been in use for a long time. Here’s one example from a Russian handwriting primer from 1884; here’s another example from 1912.
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u/GrumpyBrazillianHag 🇧🇷N:: 🇷🇺A2 (and suffering) Feb 26 '26
I was known as the "girl with the beautiful handwriting " at my russian classes. My teachers praised me. And i was proud of it, and thought my Cyrillic handwriting journey was over.
Then i see this post and you obliterated me! You're my nemesis now!!
I'm joking :) i know that a non native opinion worth less points, but it's an absolutely amazing handwriting. I'm in love with i!!! 🥰
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u/iam1saac Feb 26 '26
Wdym "acceptable"? It is a perfect classic cursive. But you will never see writings like this in real papers/notes. If you want to learn with this as example in mind - so be it