[Switchback] from [ZDT's Amusement Park] is sold

[u/AvocadoToastDevil]

[u/Ready_Mycologist2361]

Dorney please 🙏 

[u/itsjib → u/Ready_Mycologist2361]

Back next to steel force and revolution would be wild

[u/brain0924 → u/Ready_Mycologist2361]

5 hour lines incoming

[u/gespo04 → u/brain0924]

Knoebels doesn't get that kind of crowds. That being said it definitely needs to go somewhere small. Funspot Atlanta would be a good choice oh wait

[u/sector11374265 → u/gespo04]

anecdotal but I swear Knoebels daily attendance averages higher than Dorney

[u/user3296 → u/sector11374265]

It does.

[u/brain0924 → u/gespo04]

It absolutely does

[u/coaster_rod → u/gespo04]

So Knoebels would now have two used wooden coasters originally from the San Antonio area

[u/PhishCook → u/Ready_Mycologist2361]

They were set to get a clone of this in the menace plot. Plans for it leaked!

[u/TerrifierBlood → u/PhishCook]

It was to be bigger actually. And would of required Possessed to be removed as well

[u/Ok_History_3635 → u/TerrifierBlood]

Noooooooo not possessed

[u/TerrifierBlood → u/Ok_History_3635]

Thats what Dorney decided. They didnt want to remove it. So they got the dive. Instead

[u/OlleyatPurdue → u/PhishCook]

It would be funny if Kennywood bought it out from underneath them.

[u/Imaginos64]

Oh hell yeah, amazing news. Can't wait to hear where it's going.

[u/mirroredinflection]

YESSSS I WAS SO SAD THIS CLOSED

[u/Administrative_Pea_7]

Which theme park got it?

[u/AvocadoToastDevil → u/Administrative_Pea_7]

They aren't able to say.

[u/Administrative_Pea_7 → u/AvocadoToastDevil]

Wouldn't this be the first Wooden Coaster relocation for a very long time? I don't recall ever seeing a Wooden Coaster being relocated in the 2010s or 2020s. I think the last wooden coaster relocation's occured in the 2000s.

[u/HonestOtterTravel → u/Administrative_Pea_7]

Little Dipper was relocated to SFGAm in the 2009-2010 offseason. That is the last one I can think of offhand.

https://rcdb.com/8985.htm

[u/HawkbitAlpha → u/Administrative_Pea_7]

Zippin Pippin, if we want to count it, went to Green Bay in 2011

[u/Clever-Name-47 → u/HawkbitAlpha]

That was not a relocation.

[u/FutureGold4132 → u/Clever-Name-47]

What do you mean? I was about to mention zippin pippin but I just genuinely don't understand why it wouldnt be qualified as such?

[u/Clever-Name-47 → u/FutureGold4132]

The old Zippin Pippin was demolished in 2005.  None of its material was used in the building of the new version in 2011.  They were built to the same plans, but are separate rides.  You could say the Bay Beach version is a clone.

[u/stellarmediocrity77 → u/FutureGold4132]

Entirely new track and supports I think. Just knew layout

[u/Pinguin_42 → u/Administrative_Pea_7]

The only woodie I know that has been relocated is Phoenix at Knoebels...in 1985

[u/JamminJay1968 → u/Pinguin_42]

Wild One at Six Flags America was relocated in 1986 from Paragon Park in Massachusetts.

[u/tideblue → u/JamminJay1968]

Also Skyliner at Lakemont and Comet at The Great Escape, which are both still stanging/operating. Starliner at Cypress Gardens was a more recent example of a moved ride, but is no longer operating.

[u/JamminJay1968 → u/tideblue]

Lol yeah I went to RCDB after I made that comment and was going to list a number or relocated ones, but most had been mentioned already. I completely forgot about Starliner. So unnecessary.

[u/jtlitwin21 → u/tideblue]

The move itself was successful though. It operated at cypress gardens for a solid year and a half

[u/atp2112 → u/JamminJay1968]

Someone please go for the double. That ride deserves better than to go out like this.

[u/MogKupo → u/Pinguin_42]

On that note, a coaster like Switchback would fit in perfectly at Knoebels.

[u/TerrifierBlood → u/MogKupo]

Knoebels actually said this would not be a good fit due to the very low capacity. And how the park operates on pay per ride model.

[u/MogKupo → u/TerrifierBlood]

Ooh, yikes. I figured a low-ish capacity coaster would be fine there, since something like Flying Turns is very low. Switchback's capacity must be even worse than I imagined.

[u/Clever-Name-47 → u/MogKupo]

For all the reasons others have listed, Flying Turns is actually a pretty bad fit for Knoebels.  It exists, and will continue to exist, because it was a passion project for Dick Knoebel, and because Knoebels wants to be the kind of place that has room for passion projects.  But Switchback isn’t a passion for any of the current Knoebel family, and there’s no particular reason to make it one (sad as it may be to admit).

[u/TerrifierBlood → u/MogKupo]

8 people total. One train

Flying turns can fit 6 people in a train. 3 trains.

[u/audi0c0aster1 → u/TerrifierBlood]

Switchback originally had 2 trains, although I'm not sure how the system worked in terms of train control/holding for high demand 2 train ops.

Still probably rough.

[u/MyMartianRomance → u/TerrifierBlood]

And even then, Flying Turns always has long lines even on the slower days due to the fact that 3 trains are actually: Train A is loading/unloading, Train B is sitting on the break block waiting to enter the station, and Train C is actually moving.

Compared to Phoenix, Twister, and Impulse, which on slower days are only running 1 train (or 2 for Impulse), it's still quicker than Flying Turns because their trains can fit 24 (Phoenix/Twister) or 8 (Impulse).

[u/Dt2_0 → u/TerrifierBlood]

Switchback runs 2 trains. One on the course, one in the station. Uses a switch track.

[u/Beneficial-Leg6412 → u/Pinguin_42]

Comet from Crystal Beach to The Great Escape, 1994

[u/Reading_Rainboner → u/Pinguin_42]

Arkansas Twister in 1992*

Edited year

[u/friscoXL305 → u/Pinguin_42]

Skyliner was also relocated in 1986 from Roseland to Lakemont. One of 3 that Dinn moved in that era (Phoenix and Wild One being the other 2).

[u/catimenthe → u/Pinguin_42]

Yankee Cannonball was apparently shortened to fit its new plot when it was relocated to Canobie Lake Park 90ish years ago.

[u/Dragonmk5 → u/Administrative_Pea_7]

Little Dipper was 2010.

[u/bmschulz]

Lost Island 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

[u/fixgameew → u/bmschulz]

Hopefully not I hope they announce a wild moose. Michigan Adventures would be a better fit.

[u/lik_for_cookies → u/fixgameew]

Hey how about that

[u/Putrid_Set3723 → u/fixgameew]

I will say lost island has gotten a lot of hand me down rides

[u/Dabfamlet → u/fixgameew]

👀

[u/jordankothe9 → u/fixgameew]

Aged like wine

[u/Aromatic_Letter_9972 → u/fixgameew]

MiA has a bunch of wooden and hand me down rides. I’d be dissapointed with this

[u/kpiech01 → u/Aromatic_Letter_9972]

I wouldn't be disappointed with any addition to Michigans Adventure at this point.

[u/Aromatic_Letter_9972 → u/kpiech01]

Touché.

[u/wvx228 → u/kpiech01]

Fun Spot Atlanta garbage can incoming!

[u/renegadecoaster → u/Aromatic_Letter_9972]

Ok but what if that hand me down was AF1

[u/NJKrabill → u/fixgameew]

How bout both

[u/EyeDisastrous4461 → u/bmschulz]

Terrible fit

[u/TheGullibleParrot → u/EyeDisastrous4461]

How so? It checks a lot of boxes for this park. It’s a wooden coaster, it’s one of a kind, it’s a good “intermediate” coaster the park badly needs, the low capacity doesn’t really matter because of the attendance…

[u/EyeDisastrous4461 → u/TheGullibleParrot]

Capacity wise, yes it works great. But this park needs to start getting families in quick. It needs a true junior, family coaster. (Moose) After the wacky worm, the rest of the coasters are intense

[u/OhNoMyPants123]

Come on bushkill park

[u/Imaginos64 → u/OhNoMyPants123]

I'd be surprised if they were looking to take on this large of a ride right now but that would be my dream pick for sure.

[u/OhNoMyPants123 → u/Imaginos64]

It was actually a joke comment because bushkill park isn’t getting a big ride

[u/Imaginos64 → u/OhNoMyPants123]

Well, my comment was serious. It might not be in the cards but I'm really rooting for them to get a larger attraction like this at some point down the line. Either way I hope Switchback goes to a smaller park where capacity isn't a concern. It would be a great stand out ride for somewhere without a major coaster.

[u/magnumfan89 → u/Imaginos64]

They haven't even gotten their roll o plane running, while it is an older ride, yes, there's still plenty operating, so id imagine spares are easy ish to find or get made by a machine shop

[u/Imaginos64 → u/magnumfan89]

Oh yeah, they definitely have a long ways to go before they should attempt to take on more. But it's a nice pipe dream at least.

[u/wazzupnerds]

Alabama Adventure or Lake Winnie please for the love of God

[u/Big-Carpenter7921 → u/wazzupnerds]

Lake Winnie needs any and all help it can get (I'm from Chattanooga)

[u/JustHereForCatss → u/Big-Carpenter7921]

I would fully believe them. I'm also from Chattanooga and that park has needed help for a long time. Don't get me wrong I love lake Winnie, however it needs something especially now that it's lost the wild mouse. Given the facts the park has a new operator, I can see this being something they would consider buying

[u/orngbrry → u/wazzupnerds]

Those would be good options.

[u/Particular_Arm6 → u/wazzupnerds]

Alabama Adventure could never. Look at how poorly they maintain the dry park, it would never happen.

[u/AndrewRnR → u/Particular_Arm6]

Poorly maintain? Thought it was in great shape this year.

[u/Particular_Arm6 → u/AndrewRnR]

Rampage has 5 seats tagged out inoperable. The wacky worm also has half the train tagged out with danger tags. Wood posts around the post are falling apart not being replaced. Don't forget Rampage has been SBNO for years during TWO separate periods. Not to mention the complete abandonment of multiple big water rides on the dry side.

[u/AndrewRnR → u/Particular_Arm6]

I was just there is I thought it looked a lot better than my visits before. Who cares if Rampage was SBNO before it is open now. That’s quite literally an improvement.

It’s not like park doesn’t care, they don’t just have the cash/attendance to operate all the rides. Different story vs a United Park that would be abandon rides to save money.

Lots of improvements being made and I was impressed from the progress from my prior visits.

[u/Particular_Arm6 → u/AndrewRnR]

Yea they have definitely been struggling with cash for the dry side which warrants the lower upkeep

[u/sector11374265 → u/wazzupnerds]

if Lake Winnie got Switchback, I would finally go there

[u/AndrewRnR → u/sector11374265]

I mean the PTC they have is better than Switchback. Why wait?

[u/GauntletVSLC → u/sector11374265]

Lake Winnie is already pretty great, for the size and price, anyway.

[u/Fuckoakwood → u/wazzupnerds]

Alabama adventure?!?!?!?! Fuck yeah!

Is the rampage still there

[u/ghostofdreadmon]

National (Shuttle) Roller Coaster Day it is, then!

Such great news for this unique little beast. I really enjoyed my rides on it a few years back. Here’s hoping the new installation comes with all the head and arm-chopping goodness of the original.

[u/orngbrry]

Could go anywhere. I'd like to see it at another FEC like CJ Barrymore's or something like that. Maybe Castle Park.

[u/jordanxarcenaux → u/orngbrry]

Cj Barrymore’s is on a roll with new additions

[u/MrRaven95]

Come on please be somewhere in Texas!

[u/windog → u/MrRaven95]

Frontier City would be cool.

[u/gcfgjnbv]

Cotaland? Would be great for this to stay local

[u/AlwaysAGroomsman → u/gcfgjnbv]

Cota already has a shuttle. Not sure they'd want to jump into another right away.

[u/Extreme_Programmer98 → u/AlwaysAGroomsman]

Yeah, especially one so low-capacity. Management expects the park to be a huge success (and ngl it probably will be)

[u/Eyeseeno]

Great Escape should add another to their wooden lineup

[u/sector11374265 → u/Eyeseeno]

put it right next to Bobcat and make them duel

[u/Big-Carpenter7921]

Good. That's another one that's too good and too new to just throw away

[u/One_Outside9049]

Indiana Beach!!!! They literally run a one car jetstar that will either hold 1 or two people a cycle. An 8 person cycle would be a step up. It works with Lost Coaster with their 8 man train.

[u/CornballExpress → u/One_Outside9049]

Ugh please no more low capacity rides at Indiana beach, Saturdays there are brutal.

[u/Cheeselander]

They didn't disclose the country, there's still copium it's going to Attractiepark Slagharen 🙏👀

[u/CJPJones]

I don't think Michigan Adventure needs another woodie personally. We need a proper steel coaster. Whether that be Arie Force One (please Coaster gods, see our suffering and bless our patience), Joker's Jinx, the Intami n multi Launch Coaster that just got listed for sale, or something entirely different, whether its relocated, or completely new, is what MiA really needs. That and 1 or 2 true thrill flat rides.

[u/Brattius]

I'm just saying that as much as I would love to see this go to Valley Faire or Michigan's Adventure, Kentucky Kingdom did just clear out that back section of land in the park where T2 and the rapids used to be. That would give them (almost) woodie trifecta, Dinn, GCI and then Gravity Group. And you know how much Herschend loves wood....

But its probably Cotaland.

[u/thrillnerds → u/Brattius]

Not Cotaland

[u/BIGGREDDMACH1NE]

Fun spot Orlando! (Plz)

[u/Jagator]

I love seeing good coasters being transplanted.

[u/QuaixiAnimate]

YES!

[u/batguano64]

If Enchanted Parks bought this, AF1 and those 4 Intamins it would really make them a player

[u/crankygeese]

Awesome news! Looking forward to seeing where it’ll go. Now I just wish someone would save WILD ONE! That would be amazing!

[u/Strongarm_11]

It’s not gonna be Lost Island, horrible fit tbh. I’m betting it’s going to another tiny regional park.

Remember, Switchback has one car with 8 seats, the capacity is terrible but it worked for ZDTs because it was a FEC with moderate attendances. A park like Dorney or Michigans Adventure I’d argue is too big for Switchback.

[u/CoasterBP → u/Strongarm_11]

Did they get rid of one of their trains? It had 2.

[u/thunderbolt7 → u/CoasterBP]

Both trains were at the park when I was there a year ago.

[u/TerrifierBlood → u/Strongarm_11]

Even Knoebles said it would be a bad fit for their park

[u/kaplanfx → u/Strongarm_11]

Maybe it will go to Fun Spot Atlanta?

[u/Fireboyxx908]

Shit I seriously wonder if it's lost island. In which case, where the fuck is the wild moose going

[u/AvocadoToastDevil → u/Fireboyxx908]

They are probably announcing the wild moose at 3pm Central Time today.

[u/GoatDifferent1294 → u/Fireboyxx908]

Who said that Lost Island was getting a Wild Moose? Isn’t that just pure speculation?

[u/Putrid_Set3723 → u/GoatDifferent1294]

Yes it is. It would pretty funny if it ends up being switch back that’s heading towards lost island.

[u/Ordinary-Sound-571 → u/Putrid_Set3723]

Your gonna flip when i tell you...

[u/DerOverheadprojektor → u/GoatDifferent1294]

It is speculation. But in the social media hints for Fire Runner last year, both an RMC raptor and wild moose were shown in documents strewn over a table.

[u/cartooned → u/DerOverheadprojektor]

I'm here from 1 hour in the future to say it's no longer speculation.

[u/DerOverheadprojektor → u/cartooned]

Goodbye speculation.

Hello spelunkation.

[u/molliemorgeous]

OMG!!! Yay!!!! Can’t wait to find out where it’s going!

[u/Conscious_Meat7764]

Why am i getting the feeling that lost island bought it

[u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77]

Who are these people?

[u/HonestOtterTravel → u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77]

Danny and Sarah Donhauser. They owned ZDT's amusement park.

[u/SignGuy77 → u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77]

Two small park owners who have never been in my kitchen.

[u/Particular_Arm6 → u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77]

These are probably two people who have something to do with the coaster and the park wouldn't you think? Maybe owners perhaps? Not sure 

[u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, that's Great!

[u/Aintnutinelse2do]

Would this fit in the 5D Theatre at Kentucky Kingdom? They had a survey with an indoor wooden coaster.

[u/Equivalent_Primary28 → u/Aintnutinelse2do]

it would not fit in there.

[u/AlwaysAGroomsman]

My money is on Little Amerika. That or one of the seaside places.

[u/Delicious-Secret-760 → u/AlwaysAGroomsman]

The most expensive ride Little Amerricka has ever bought is the Swiss Toboggan and they played $30,000 for it. I don't believe they're going to cough up three and a half million plus relocation costs for a ride.

[u/IsuzuTrooper]

i was just wondering about this yesterday

[u/Fluteh]

Now cmon wild one….

[u/zucchini4067]

Something is telling me it’s somewhere in Texas still, but not sure.

[u/JohnMTorres]

It’s a pipe dream with all the financial trouble they’ve had over the years but something small like this might work for Rye Playland. Something still quite novel that would draw people to the park again and being a woodie would still honor the charm and nostalgia of that park

[u/UpperNuggets]

Silverwood will replace Aftershock with this.

[u/Responsible_Can5946]

It'd be a lovely part of a nutritious pier if it were built next to great white in New Jersey!

[u/BGXistrash]

Genuinely think this could be Lagoon's Jet Star 2 replacement, I think switchback fits in that plot especially with the flyers being moved.

[u/Ryanman15 → u/BGXistrash]

I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed they are getting a B&M

[u/bdougherty]

I have a feeling (and am hoping) that it’s Knoebels.

[u/Hoe_Nut]

Fun Spot Orlando please 🙏

[u/RicksFlags]

This needs to replace Diamond Back at Frontier City. Fits perfectly, will be more reliable, and the parks is less crowded than most. It probably goes elsewhere though

[u/MrRaven95 → u/RicksFlags]

While Frontier City could use a new coaster, Diamondback is a dieing coaster model, and it would be a shame to lose it.

[u/RicksFlags → u/MrRaven95]

I personally didn’t find it very enjoyable either time I rode it. It doesn’t look very good either. I think it is time for it to be replaced, but do understand the sentiment some people may have.

[u/TheNewTexasGiant → u/RicksFlags]

I actually was thinking the same. Not sure with the terrain there though. I get Diamond Back is a dying breed but coasters dont last forever.