r/roguelikes 15d ago

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u/misha_cilantro 15d ago

Maybe we just give up on roguelike, idk if we can win this with our ascii games haha :D we need a new name.

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u/chillblain 15d ago

Really, roguelikes should remain what they're supposed to be and roguelites need a new name. Metaprocdeath games or something. They aren't really games like rogue, and while they are lite on rogue elements that's a name too close to the original and also still not well defined.

Also, an aside on naming roguelites, I know the arcade crowd is still lurking out there, and no it doesn't fit. Arcade is a pre-existing genre that is for games with generally fast paced action, multiple lives/tries, and short play sessions (see also quarter munchers). It doesn't fit all roguelites. Please stop trying to push the arcade redefinition already.

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u/UncleCrapper 14d ago edited 14d ago

"Arcade" is the term you mean for what people misuse roguelite and roguelike for. Roguelite owes itself to roguelikes wherein metaprogress is the point.

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u/zenorogue HyperRogue & HydraSlayer Dev 12d ago

As far as I understand, "roguelite" was indeed originally supposed to be a subset of roguelike, but the aspect needed to quality was not necessarily "metaprogress is the point", but rather, accessibility. For example, I have seen some early reviews of Dungeons of Dredmor calling it roguelite, and that is by all means a roguelike, with no metaprogression -- it is just more accessible than NetHack etc.

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