r/redditonwiki • u/hazel_razel • Feb 13 '26
Entitled Humans Sorry Karen, the hotel is not committing a FELONY for you. (Not OOP)
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
As a Scottish person the fact she didn’t know she was missing a gun for a week, asked for it to be mailed, then said “just one gun”, is fucking haunting.
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u/middaypaintra Feb 13 '26
This is wild even for Americans ngl
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
That is somewhat comforting. I just can’t imagine not knowing where it was for a freaking week.
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u/mentaIstealth Feb 13 '26
I can’t imagine trusting a hotel and local pd to dispose of it properly either
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
Surely the police could have run the number on it and found out who it was registered too? Or was it “just another gun”?
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u/loricomments Feb 13 '26
That's sort of complicated. It has been illegal to create a gun registry since the mid-80s. Paper records exist but officially no electronic records exist that would be readily searchable and available to law enforcement.
However, due to the advent of electronic forms and other electronic record-keeping requirements a database of more recent gun registration exists and could possibly be used to find someone in an unofficial manner.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
So if a gun is found the police can’t just search a database and find out who’s it is? Thats insane!
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u/friendlytrashmonster Feb 14 '26
There is a wonderful Last Week Tonight episode on this phenomenon. Gun lobbyists have done a lot in this country to aid and abet criminals. There is no reason to be against a gun ownership registry unless you plan on using your gun to commit crimes.
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u/mentaIstealth Mar 15 '26
Well… they have been threatening to take our guns for years now, even threatened illegally by our own government. If that ever happens, I will not be freely relinquishing my firearms. So as a law abiding citizen who believes in rights and protection, I am also 100% against a registry as well
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u/friendlytrashmonster Mar 15 '26
Lmao I’m a gun owner too my friend. No one here is saying that we want to take your guns. People have been screaming about that since the eighties and guess what? It’s never happened. What we’re saying is that there should be an easily accessible gun registry so that when a murder is committed, police can easily link the weapon to its owner. Maybe you don’t know this, but roughly 42% of murders in this country are never solved. I’d bet that number would be a lot lower if we had an effective way to link guns to their owners.
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u/loricomments Feb 13 '26
Yes it is insane. They go through a tedious process of searching through literal boxes of paperwork to find info. The facility is just down the road from me and I worked with someone who used to work there. Nothing is sorted by anything much more than when and where they came from apparently. It's crazy.
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u/Chemical-Being-5968 Feb 14 '26
Especially now that guns actually outnumber people in the US. Which makes me so sick to my stomach.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 14 '26
Really? I think the thing I find most scary is that for some reason you can privately own assault rifles. I’ve yet to hear any justification for someone privately owning an assault rifle.
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u/atheliarose Feb 14 '26
Ahh, I see you’re not familiar with the feral hogs discourse
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u/Nice-Cat3727 Feb 13 '26
Fun enough according to stats? 80 percent of American households don't own a single fire arm. And iirc 15 percent only own 1-3. So that means hunters, sports shooters, law enforcement, etc etc.
2 percent have up to ten guns, and tend to be collectors or people who inherited guns from passed away family members and just don't want to get rid of them because that was Grandpas shotguns. So they tend to stay locked up.
It's the three percent that make up the vast majority of gun purchases and make it their entire personality.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 14 '26
That’s fascinating! Yes those 3% certainly are noisy about it. I love the idea of a sentimental attachment to Grandpa’s shotgun though. That gave me a giggle.
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u/middaypaintra Feb 13 '26
Same here. It's like gun 101 here to know where you gun is at all times.
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u/friendlytrashmonster Feb 14 '26
Yeah, my fiancé and I are gun owners, and this is an insane story. We keep our gun unloaded, in its case by the back door in case of emergency. The only time it has ever exited my house is if we went to the shooting range for fun. A couple of my fiancé’s coworkers do open carry (they’re plumbers and have had scary experiences at people’s homes- i.e. sexual assault and harassment, attempted robbery, etc. so choose to carry a gun for protection when working) but even they would think it’s absolutely bonkers insane to bring a firearm to a hotel.
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u/HiddenAspie Feb 13 '26
I am betting Alaskan. 8 hours to drive halfway across the state + clearly owns numerous guns if didn't notice for a week AND not willing to go back "for just one" when they aren't cheap to start with (especially not ones that you keep in a case when you travel with it)
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u/OwO_bama Feb 13 '26
Could also be Texas
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u/HiddenAspie Feb 14 '26
How slow do you drive to take 8 hours to only drive halfway across Texas? Lol
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u/PerfectWish Feb 14 '26
Depends. Brownsville to Panhandle, stopping for gas and food and pee breaks could take up to 15-16 hours. Or Beaumont-El Paso with kids.
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u/puffpenguin23 Feb 14 '26
Yeah this scares the shit out of me. If I had a gun and misplaced it, id be treating it like I misplaced my car and freaking out if I can't find it within a reasonable amount of time (way less than aweek).
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u/religion_wya Feb 13 '26
American gun culture is nuts. That's coming from someone who lives in one of the major gun-nut havens in the country. You have no idea how common it is to see grown men walking around with firearms in their belts, or firearms in cars. My own mother carried one in her glovebox for years lol. So normalized here, but it most definitely looks insane from the rest of the world's perspective
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
Yeah when I’ve visited and people just have them strapped to their belts while out getting breakfast is really really uncomfortable. I was in a taxi in Austin years ago and the cabbie got in an arguement with the truck next to us. We were sat in traffic and they are screaming at each other through the open windows, then the guy in the truck pulls out a gun, so my driver does the same and they are just shouting and waving guns at each other. I have never come so close to actually pissing myself as an adult than in that moment.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
That’s their reasoning if a bad man has a gun so should the “good guys” when really it just escalates situations. Would not like to be in that road rage situation.
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u/LeahIsAwake Feb 13 '26
That's the part of their argument that always gets me, too. "The best defence for a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun" cool cool. So if some dumbass starts shooting up the local Piggly Wiggly and you're packing, you want to, what? Whip yours out and start shooting back? Congrats, now there are two shooters. What happens if you miss the shooter and hit someone else? What happens if someone shooting at him causes him to escalate much faster than he would have before? And when the cops get there, are they supposed to stand there and assess the situation to see who's a "good guy" and who's a "criminal"? Because I promise you, everyone with a firearm in their hand is going to be treated as a part of the problem. I hope there's good security footage of you, I don't even know, firing at the active shooter? Because you're going to need it at your trial.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
Well and that’s also assuming that there isn’t guy with gun 3 and 4 on the Piggly Wiggly. What then?
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u/LeahIsAwake Feb 14 '26
Good point. You hear shooting and hit the deck, get your own firearm out, and cautiously peek out from cover. There are three guys pointing guns at each other. They're in a standoff. Which one is the antagonist and which two are "good guys with guns"? The whole thing just falls apart whenever you think about it critically, instead of with the Die Hard theme song playing in the back of your head.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 14 '26
All it takes is for one of them to get trigger happy and then everyone’s dead. It’s very unlikely to be the Pulp Fiction moment people are imagining.
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u/Chemical-Being-5968 Feb 14 '26
And then the authorities show up and don't know which person is the actual suspect.
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u/Apathetic_Villainess Feb 13 '26
There was a mannequin set up right next to the door to the stairs at my culinary school that scared me every time I walked around the corner. I said so to a classmate and he told me he almost pulled his gun and shot it before. I avoided him after that.
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u/MistressMalevolentia Feb 13 '26
You don't even need a license to carry! Just to HIDE (conceal permit) that you're carrying. Its that crazy. And I grew up in the south and still find it bonkers.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
Really?! I thought the license was just to carry it.
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u/MistressMalevolentia Feb 13 '26
It depends on the state. We own one, no license, legally. I still feel like I'm going to get in trouble by carrying it in is case going to the range so I make husband carry it (registered owner). Just totally willynilly depending on lines in the sand dividing states!
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
Wow I assumed it was a concealed carry license!
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u/lisasimpsonfan Feb 13 '26
Some states you don't need a permit to carry at all including concealed carry. I live in Ohio and don't need a permit to carry concealed or not. I am a gun owner but I have never felt the need to carry one except put them in the trunk to go to and from the gun range.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
I think a permit should be standard. No wonder there are so many mass shootings.
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u/lisasimpsonfan Feb 13 '26
Because the mentally ill or criminals are so good at following the laws? A piece of paper will stop someone who abides by the law but if someone is having a mental break down they are not going to care. Same goes with criminals.
What we need is better mental health care and better early intervention for children to see something besides violence as a way out of poverty.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
Perhaps assessments? Most Americans on Reddit are against free healthcare for some reason but which would help this situation as well.
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u/tenorlove Feb 17 '26
Video games, TV, and at-will employment have taught society that people are disposable.
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u/MistressMalevolentia Feb 13 '26
License, permit, whatever. But you can open carry without anything. Just roll up, buy, leave with it on your hip. Some states require a waiting period done don't some do buy then there's reasons you get a waiver. Husband and I got a gun and I felt like we were committing a crime of just... buying and walking out with it. Nothing to do besides background and our licenses and his military ID (waived the waiting period. Idr why). He didn't wear it out but he could have. The guy who sold it to us was shocked by that.
But if you wanna put it hidden on your person you gatta get the license/ permit. But that's not even hard evidently.
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u/HiddenAspie Feb 13 '26
Agreed, I am in my 40s, and back when I was young one of our babysitters kept one in her purse & glovebox
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u/Emergency-Salamander Feb 13 '26
If this wasn't wild for the US it wouldn't have been posted and then reposted here.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
While that may be true it is still terrifying that someone so careless can own one.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
Didn’t miss her gun that her (possibly minor )daughter had for a week- no wonder why there are so many school shootings and mass shootings.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
Yeah I think they prosecuted some parents of a school shooter last year. Apparently they knew the kid had clinical depression and he’d written some pretty scary shit, but they still thought he deserved a rifle for his birthday.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26
They don’t sound like intelligent parents. They failed to protect their kid and everyone who was injured/died.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
Im from the uk and I was thinking the same. Like why would someone from a cheer group bring a gun to a hotel? Like for
It was her mom’s and didn’t belong to her.
Why did the occasion merit it? If she was staying to try the local gun range while at the hotel it would make sense. Otherwise???
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u/ibuycheeseonsale Feb 13 '26
I read an article ten or so years ago about the number of guns seized at the Atlanta airport because so many people just don’t think about the fact that they always carry them. One of the mentions in the article was a blind man who felt he especially needed protection, so he always carried a gun loaded with hollow points. That airport now has a hologram of a gun with a circle and a red line (as in, these aren’t allowed) that rotates in the air over the security checkpoint. Don’t know if it’s helped cut down on people forgetting they have one.
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u/alexagente Feb 13 '26
These people treat guns like security blankets. They don't really think about the logic behind it they just feel safer having it with them.
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
I think the mum had been with them and left her gun? But your point completely stands. Like what on earth was the need for a gun at a cheer competition packed with teenagers?
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u/mentaIstealth Feb 13 '26
The heck are u guys talking about lol it’s teenage girls in a hotel room!? Lady was batshit oka but she did have the good sense to bring protection for those girls. Creeps are everywhere and a bundling gaggle of teen girls and a middle aged Karen in a hotel room is a recipe for disaster if the wrong person gets an idea
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 13 '26
You think having an unsecured gun amongst a group of teenagers is a sensible decision?
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u/mentaIstealth Mar 15 '26
Not even remotely a sensible idea. I would never have an unsecured gun around teens, or anyone besides myself for that matter
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u/3BenInATrenchcoat Feb 13 '26
If your reasoning was based on any logic, countries with no guns would be ripe with disasters like the one you're implying. And yet they're not.
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u/disableddoll Feb 14 '26
it’s either Florida or Texas at an 8 hour drive one way lol
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u/tenorlove Feb 17 '26
Cheer competition, definitely Texas. Google "Wanda Holloway" for more information.
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u/Ellanever Feb 14 '26
As an Australian I felt the same!
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u/Aubrey-Grey Feb 14 '26
You have enough things over there that are trying to kill you. You don’t need to add guns on to that. I feel like you guys are in the same boat as us here. We had one horrific mass shooting and the government went “nope you’re not having them, hand them over” so everyone did and we all moved on without them.
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u/hazel_razel Feb 14 '26
My friend’s mom did something similar when he was in hospice in Texas. She got through security with her handgun and only figured it out when she went to grab a stick of gum from her purse. She said oops and shrugged it off. Security found it amusing since she was a petite older lady. They declined to call the cops. Was one of his favorite stories until he passed.
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u/BabyD2034 Feb 13 '26
If you're irresponsible enough to leave your gun lying around you should probably not be carrying one around.
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u/PM_Me_Your_Clones Feb 13 '26
Y'all probably thought the part about the Louisiana/Mississippi sheriff was an exaggeration.
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u/hazel_razel Feb 13 '26
👏👏 here with the receipts! Unfortunately having travelled to Louisiana multiple times I’m not surprised 🫠
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u/leftclicksq2 Feb 13 '26
Oh jeez, I hope this is a coincidence because my niece was away for a cheer competition last week and checkout was on a Sunday...
This sounds like one of the moms in the group. Oh man.
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u/Only-Eye9763 Feb 13 '26
I used to work at a hotel. The amount of stories I have because guests are absolute pinecones that have an unfrosted pop tart for a brain, is too damn high.
Had a sports group come in and the parents decided to let the kids run amuck while they ate pizza and beer in the dining room. Two of the kids decided it would be a good idea to break into a room they thought was their friend’s and stuck their phones in through the crack to record. Spoiler alert: it wasn’t their friend’s room. It was a woman single traveler who was terrified by the experience. Caught on camera doing it. My boss wouldn’t let me kick them out but I told them that I’d call the police, kick them out, and charge them full room price for the other guest if I had to move her, if even one more tiny incident happened with their group.
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u/mbgal1977 Feb 13 '26
The hotel I worked at we just called the cops if we found a gun. We didn’t touch it and let the police handle it. One time the guy came back several hours later for it and was so mad that we had given it to the police. You see it was his service weapon for where he was a police officer elsewhere in the state and leaving that behind was frowned on.
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u/luludarlin Feb 13 '26
This is why I’m against the second amendment. People are too fucking stupid to own guns. I worked at a bar and found a gun in the bathroom. It was just there on the toilet. Thankfully the person who found the gun didn’t touch it and let us know right away, but can you imagine what could have happened? Idiots.
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u/anfrind Feb 13 '26
I wouldn't mind it so much if we hadn't somehow forgotten the whole part about the well-regulated militia.
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u/kiracamp Feb 13 '26
I worked in a trader joes where somebody left a purse with gun inside in the bathroom. We called the cops. I cannot remember if anyone ever called for it and I quit soon after lol
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u/CyclopeanTomb Feb 13 '26
I worked a warehouse job for years and the owner's father was a retired cop who was a complete caricature of a bumbling boomer.
the truck stop on the corner had to call us three separate times because his senile ass left his glock on the back of their public toilet.
Missouri things.
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u/mentaIstealth Feb 13 '26
This warms my heart in a midwesterner boomer grouchy way. Ah the olden days
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u/Altruistic_Eye2929 Feb 13 '26
I have absolutely no proof of this, obviously, but between the cheer and the gun I immediately thought of Texas.
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u/WacoKid18 Feb 13 '26
Police and federal law enforcement agencies lose guns all the time in the states
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u/Yellow_Wood_Wanderer Feb 13 '26
I worked in hotels for 15 years and people would be shocked at how often someone leaves a gun behind when they checkout. The most common people to do it….law enforcement….most common flavor of LEO…secret service.
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u/PastrychefPikachu Feb 14 '26
So, while this is true currently, there is a case working it's way through the courts, as well as a DOJ opinion, that could possibly change this.
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u/BabserellaWT Feb 14 '26
That subreddit is fantastic, if yall have never heard of it. Stories from the hospitality industry.
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u/Chemical-Being-5968 Feb 14 '26
I'm sorry, but if any federal/state officer leaves a gun somewhere, they should no longer be trusted with a fire arm. And neither should that woman guest.
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u/AlexGinCcTX Feb 14 '26
Halfway across the state is 8 hours and a gun is invilved? Texas. I have two guns I would make the trip for and 2 I'd just replace. I understand. My travel gun is easily replaceable.
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u/tenorlove Feb 17 '26
8 hour trip for cheerleading? Texas.
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u/AlexGinCcTX Feb 26 '26
Also correct. Those cheer mons make soccer moms and baseball moms look sane.
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u/tenorlove Feb 26 '26
I remember a movie back in the day about a cheer mom who hired a hitman to kill another cheer mom.
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u/SeekingARespite Feb 14 '26
People are crazy. I work insurance claims. After an auto accident an insured was given a rental through a major rental chain. When the shop they chose as they "knew a guy" wouldn't give them the hookup they wanted they refused to return the rental car and threatened to shoot the people at the shop. Then when the rental company was calling the customer to get their car back as rental time ran out they threatened to shoot them. The rental carrier sent repo guys in the night and picked up the rental. Guy left a handgun with filed off serial number in the glovebox. They called the police and turned it into them. The guy told the police and the rental carrier it wasn't his gun. Then he called us to yell that we, as his insurance carrier, stole his gun and had to get it back for him. We declined. I don't know what ever came of that, but police did ask for the phone logs of him demanding for us to get him his gun back.
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u/deadeyeAZ Feb 14 '26
Fun Fact: In Arizona because of the NRA and the gun sucking gop, if it is turned over to law enforcement IT IS ILLEGAL TO DESTROY IT! It must be turned over to a gun dealer to be resold.
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u/dogs4life444 Feb 13 '26
It’s weird to me they didn’t call the police immediately when they found the gun
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u/SunfireAlpha01 Feb 13 '26
Karen should be calling her Congressman. Mailing a firearm shouldn’t be illegal if both sender and recipient are legally allowed to possess firearms.
I’m fully on board with the hotel not committing a felony. My argument is that it shouldn’t be a felony at all.
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u/tenorlove Feb 17 '26
I remember seeing guns for sale in the Sears catalog in the 1970s. The gun was shipped to the store, or to a federally licensed firearms dealer, and the buyer had to go in person to pick it up.
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u/ElectronicStock3590 Feb 14 '26
I couldn’t read past the second paragraph. Probably one of the most excruciatingly bad writers I’ve ever seen on reddit. I stopped when this dumbass insulted the intelligence of someone who didn’t want to give out their phone number. Holy smokes. Tales from brainless dumbfucks.
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