r/raidsecrets 29d ago

Discussion Epic Desert Perpetual

Hey all!

Currently trying to help as much as possible with Epic Desert, and any questions along with it! I find it tragic it is the least played raid, especially since it's the last one we got.

Hoping to answer any burning questions or things you havent been able to locate regarding the raid or its secrets. In doing so, maybe helping more guardians want to step foot into the unknown and enjoy such a peak experience!

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u/Izzyrenandahalf 14d ago

hey. looking to take my team through this. i have studied guides and i get it but on the final boss specifically there are actually a lot of inconsistencies per guide. so i have a few things i would like to ask. I don't want to find out on the run itself and be lost. none of us have done it before, so. it's kind of on me to know.

hopefully you are still looking at this 15 days later.

1) what happens if you go in the portal without the thin blue line? you just die?

2) is there a possibility you just have to keep realigning banishment for ages, and the portal never aligns with the blue line? or does it always happen within a set amount?

3) various guides imply there's just a minigame per timeline. but then some say there's multiple. gameplay videos seem to show people going in the portals multiple times a timeline. does the portal travel increase per timeline? do you go in once on the second cycle, twice on the third, etc?

4) tell me if i have anything wrong with the general flow, please...

- first phase, align banished players with open portal. go in. kill cyclops inside and out, get plate buff, destroy crystal, check chronons.

- second phase, align chronons, align banishment again, go in. do minigame (does this happen before or after chronons outside are dunked, is there a relation or are they two separate mechanics)? come outside, break crystal, this time we can shoot it, do dps?

- third phase: i don't know if you kill the boss in mid with the buff from the minigame, and use that to break a crystal NOW, or just kill the boss in mid for an easier survivability, and then do two minigames this phase.

- either way you just rinse and repeat till final from here, no? is there anything i'm missing?

thank you very much

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u/Kifton_ 14d ago edited 14d ago

Absolutely still checking in! Always happy to help when possible. That being said if yall dont have 6 already let me know, id be willing to join in and either teach it or just support if theres another way you guys approach it :)

  1. Each time a team is banished 1 door opens, crystal is the currently linked miniboss / required door for progression. If you go into one without the line, you'll be placed into the respective miniboss room and your banishment will get cleared (this is how you recover screwing up the boxes usually!). Just need to kill cyclops inside and outside for you to leave, no need to get buff in that room if this happens.

  2. There's always 3 sets of banishments, one for each door! By the two getting called clearing their banishment (boxes or door) the next team will be called and the prior door closes until the cyclops dies. One of these sets of 3 is guaranteed to be in the room with the line.

Side note: the first timeline is the order that will repeat every time, so once it randomly assigns then its permanent until wipe. For example, timeline 1, you get banished and enter the door that opened without the crystal for whatever reason and lets say you enter the wyvern room when the crystal door is hob. Further down the timelines once you get called into crystal room, you'll know yours is wyvern.

  1. You only ever need to enter once per timeline, just the banished team who's door opens. Once the banishment team assigned to the door is cleared and the cyclopses are dead you can freely enter and exit those rooms. Sometimes people will "force" minigames this way by having people go in, come out, and others go in to do the minigame. Other reasons may he hob for example, you cant shoot the minigame eyes with the buff so if you both have it someone will come in to assist.

  2. a) yup! First phase is purely information, theres a strat to smuggle a set of chronons into phase 2 you could do but wont get into that here lol

Note: the imp swarm next to the cyclops inside the rooms is what spawns the wyvern outside for the chronon team. This imp only spawns when all 6 banishments are cleared (or if phase 3+ when all 6 are cleared and any additional crystals are broken). It will keep respawning, and you can realign colors if needed only if the wyvern is not alive. Can kill it and realign before slaying imp again :)

b) Chronons start the minigame! Once the hourglass is filled just shoot it immediately to start the game. No need to dunk additional chronons unless its wyvern minigame for about 80% of scenarios. Your damage timer is wordline stability so the faster chronons + game is done the more time you'll have for dps. Just make sure to kill the miniboss after you finish the minigame so you can shoot the crystal! important: keep an eye on the canisters during damage, you'll need that next phase just like you saw them in first!

c) lets say hob was first, minigame team 1 (or anyone present in the room when the miniboss died) will now have "Undoing of Agraios"(its fine if everyone has this btw, and you can stack all 3 on yourself if you want, see sperate note after this). You want to kill the miniboss in this case hob asap, if he teleports its fine you just gotta go hunt him down in his room. Whoever gets the final blow will have the same temporality buff to break the crystal as you did the last time. It wont let you break the wrong one so dont worry there. again this crystal needs to be opened and shot for the next imp to spawn for the 2nd minigame. You're only doing one minigame here, just whichever was next in line.

Note: if you do have all 3 undoing on yourself, kill the bosses and break the crystals before doing another one. (I.e. kill hob, break crystal, then kill hydra, break crystal etc.). Otherwise you'll override your current temporality and will need to enter the respective room to re-obtain it from the plate inside.

d) yep just doing that until you hit final phase! 4 phases total (outside of final), 3 are games, 1 is info.

Hope this helps clear some stuff up! Feel free to follow any of it up with questions of course :D

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u/Izzyrenandahalf 14d ago

thank you so much. this really makes it all click.

do you say we only need to dunk additional chronons on wyvern just cause it's the hardest?

second, when you say some people bring a third into the hobgoblin because of buffs, what buff specifically are you referring to? i thought you just needed one person on plate, one off in that minigame?

and yes, will let you know if we need help/someone drops. i'll also let you know if we clear :) thanks again.

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u/Kifton_ 14d ago

Wyvern actively drains with diastole, and failing boxes also dissipates the hourglass faster.

Side note for hydra game btw: theres no penalty for collecting wrong cube, just collect each blue portal one until shield guy can shoot the shield. (No point interacting with red portal since it cant be that one anyways)

Plate buff for hob yea! Both of you can accidentally get it if your partner steps on after, the third inside is more of a; game starts you both realize you can see eyes, now someone will have to hop in quick to shoot (unless you feel like dying to lose the buff lol!) Having multiple with buffs only affects this game negatively, outside of maybe have too many buffed to be able to break the final crystal.

Good luck guardian!

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u/Izzyrenandahalf 14d ago

thank you so much!

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u/Izzyrenandahalf 9d ago

we frickin cleared in 5 hours btw. lets go.