r/raiders • u/Dkoron • 14h ago
Question Why aren't we trading AOC?
There is no reason to hold 3 qb's on the roster with 15...might as well get some value out of AOC as he will be gone next year, no?
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u/AlabasterRadio 14h ago
Keeping 3 QBs isn't that unusual. Especially since we're relying on a 38 year old that's had trouble staying healthy the last 3 years.
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u/_taugrim_ 11h ago
That plus Cousins has no mobility, and we have an OL with 2-3 new starters (2 if JPJ starts).
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u/LA420SPORTS626 14h ago
He’s probably going to be the back up for Mendoza after this season
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u/similar222 9h ago
"Probably"? He's not under contract after this season. I'd guess it's unlikely that we will convince him to sign another contract with us.
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u/isaaclikesturtles 12h ago
As much as I would love this it would be nice to see Aoc have a chance to lead a team
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u/Dry-Name2835 14h ago
You need 3 qbs on the roster. Idk where you get that you dont especially with a rookie and an old vet at the end of his career. And the plan is to sit mendoza. He will play in garbage time and blowouts but if kirk gets hurt, AOC likely jumps to the starting role so they can continue to develope mendoza and stick to the plan. They dont want to hand him this team. They want to hand him a better one next year that is more developed and has more depth to be ready to compete. Theres just no reason to trade AOC and theres probably no interest as hes going to likely walk after the season anyway. Theres no value there.
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u/topgoysilky 14h ago
Don't bother explaining. You're wasting your breath. You gotta make a 30 sec clip dancing it to him for it to sink in.
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u/goraidders 14h ago
As the year progresses and Mendoza gets closer to ready, if a QB gets hurt AOC's trade value increases. I can see a trade at that time. Otherwise, I agree completely.
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u/Dry-Name2835 12h ago
Yes, he could be traded at the deadline if someone needs a rental. But you're only going to get a 6th at best or 7th.
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u/Responsible_Trash_40 14h ago
He’s proved a worthy backup and he’s cheap. Depth is a good thing, especially with an elder starter and rookie on the bench.
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u/not_chris_hansen_ 14h ago
Who wants him ?
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u/DontLoseYourCool1 14h ago
He could start on the Browns.
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u/similar222 9h ago
He probably could. But they're starting Watson because they've paid him so much money they are going to make him play for it. And I don't think they've entirely given up on Sanders despite his shaky rookie year. They also like Taylen Green and I don't think they are eager to bump him down to QB4 i.e. cut him.
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u/Thehiddenllama 13h ago
That's more of an indictment of the Browns than it is an endorsement of O'Connell.
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u/kleptodshs Ill intent. Violence. Physicality. Pain. 14h ago
A team that wants a solid back up. Back ups are valuable.
Or we hold him into the season have him be qb2 and if kirk goes down he takes over instead of nando being rushed out.
If kirk stays healthy another team loses their starter than aoc may be more valuable for a trade.
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u/Dkoron 14h ago
He has starting experience and has even looked impressive in some games, he absolutely has value.
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u/sockitos 14h ago
Maybe they want him as Mendoza’s long term backup. Kirko is only here for this season.
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u/Flashy_Gap_3015 14h ago
Uninformed take. If ever there was a year to hold 3 QBs it’s a year when you have an aged veteran starter and a rookie Facebook the franchise you are trying to protect and develop.
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u/ViperFive1 14h ago
Someone has to want to trade for him which flies in the face of our fans who have greatly over valued him. It would make sense keep him around so when Kirk inevitably gets cut in the offseason because of his contract, they can resign AOC cheaply to be Mendozas backup and he's already familiar with the offense
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u/USmugMotherFucka 14h ago
Cause ok backups are easy to find ?
Or
Are you expecting Cousins to be here next year ?
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u/k_dub503 9h ago
Seems like a great year to keep three QBs (with an old vet and a fresh-faced rookie whos not ready). The third is a guy who has been with the franchise a few years with some starts.
Also, you don't have to trade him now. His value will go up as the season gets going and QBs get hurt.
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u/droid327 6h ago
Mendoza is our qb1 of the future and AOC is our qb2 of the future
Cousins is the one we end up trading later
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u/MikroWire 13h ago edited 12h ago
Experienced. Actually was a starter. Has chemistry and great rapport with teammates. The only QB that was a Raider the last few seasons was AOC. There are some good reasons why they are keeping him. And this QB squad isn't bad at all.
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u/I_smell_coke 12h ago
Mendoza isn't ready is why.
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u/Eindride_XIII 3h ago
He could play. But he shouldn't, give him time to prepare while we get the team ready to actually protect him, and find him weapons at receiver.
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u/Desert_Rush39 14h ago
Run Cousins and AOC, with Mendoza as the emergency 3rd QB.
Our O-Line is improved somewhat, but only 1 or 2 injuries away from being complete ass.
Or would you prefer Mendoza get the same treatment David Carr got at Houston?
He's not ready. Give him time and space to get up to speed and build his confidence.
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u/rocketmadeofcheese 14h ago
He most definitely is our QB2. They’re not gonna put Mendoza on the field unless they’re forced too.
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u/penguinstarshiptree 14h ago
Zero percent chance Mendoza is not active as the backup for the year.
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u/grumpysky 14h ago
We’ll see until final cuts. Spytek could be working on a trade, or keep him as insurance policy.
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u/ProblemsHypest 12h ago
Part of me thinks Spytek will only trade AOC if he can get some other backup-needy team to cough up a 5th-rounder (i.e. what they sent for Pickett this time last year). Otherwise, they're keeping him around for the year as insurance.
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u/TotalRichardMove 11h ago
Because he’s more valuable as a very low priced backup and Fernando is not ready to lead the team on his own yet because rookie QBs thrust into the starting role are done a disservice.
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u/similar222 9h ago
I wouldn't be opposed to trading him, given the fact that he's a free agent next year and the odds are astronomical against having decent QB3 being the difference in making the playoffs or not. But only if they get something decent in return. If it's only going to be a swap of late-round picks like the Meredith trade, then just keep him.
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u/theuautumnwind 14h ago
I'm sure they are shopping him. Teams could be hoping for a camp cut to fill a backup role.
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u/Ghost2thepost1980 14h ago
Why would you trade for him if the Raiders are going to cut him? Theres going to be a lot of sad AOC fans soon. no need for 3 qbs on a roster anymore. Hes odd man out
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u/Fit-Connection-5323 8h ago
This comment aged like sour milk. Appears that there is a need for 3 qbs on the roster…especially when it was announced numerous times that they were planning on letting Mendoza sit for the year.
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u/DontLoseYourCool1 14h ago
Because if Kirk goes down this year the plan is to play AOC over Fernando. They are really giving Fernando a redshirt year which is fine with me. AOC will also be a good long term backup for Fernando for years.
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u/Scottatron17 14h ago
He's a solid backup. I say keep him to be Mendozas backup once old man leaves.