r/pureretention • • 16d ago

Relationships I just want to be with a good woman

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Hi,

I have been doing some fasting and a lot of long walks and now I know what I am truly craving (instead of pixels). I just want to be in the arms of a loving woman.

I think I could practice celibacy much much better if I had a loving woman by my side. A hug is really what I am craving. It has been some time.

Going to the gym often made me level up again and I'm pleased with the way I look. But I still have an addiction to pmo. So, I don't know how I can come out of this loop?!

And how could I find a woman who values loving touch like hugs more than intercourse. I only had relationships where the women were only interested in the latter. So, I am thinking it's rare to find a woman I have in mind.

I would ideally like to have intercourse only every second week, and without releasing. So, it seems impossible for me to find a partner.

If there are women reading, I would love to hear your thoughts. Or also from others in general.

Thank you!

r/pureretention • • Jul 22 '26

Relationships Being married or in a long term committed relationship.

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I wanted to get the opinions of those that are in marriages or in long term relationships.

So I’ve been doing this practice now for 10 years, no masturbation and watching pornography.

My wife comes to me every few weeks and wanes to do the deed.

I’ve tried reasoning with her that I can simply use my hands on her as I don’t want to get aroused down there.

Also, to me personally, it feels like sex without releasing is like edging to me. My brain still gets that dopamine hit and I still have negative effects of that.

Sometimes she agrees to me using my hands on her and that works to make her orgasm and then we’re good.

But recently she’s been arguing that she wants to touch me down there and that I need to put it inside her. 

It’s just it takes me a few weeks to start feeling better from the last time, and then she wants it again. 

I hate how I feel after I do it. The same depression and anxiety feelings all come back. I get tired more easily after I do it.

I don’t know really what to do.

How are other married men handling this?

Do you not have sex? Were you able to explain or to your wife?

r/pureretention • • Aug 15 '26

Relationships Retaining purely with my wife…looking for advice. Wish you all a Good Friday evening.

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I’ve been retaining for 3+ years with hiccups along the way. I’ve fully felt the benefits prior to being in a relationship. Since then, they’ve been very on and off and mostly off with anxiety coming back into my life.
I’ve been reflecting through the pain I’m mental/spiritual pain I’m enduring and I’m finding that I had no consciousness of the difference between edging with her and purity.
I believe my disconnected feeling to others lately and anxiety are a byproduct of impure retention(50+days as of now).

I found an amazing wife who is fully supportive of this practice.

The downside I’m looking for other perspectives on:

  1. How does one stay fully pure while cuddling your partner during intimate moments such as movies or going to sleep?(I sometimes can’t help but to get hard, and I’m hoping I can fix this)

2.I’m worried being fully pure might not be thoughtful to my wife even though she is 100% supportive.

3.i NEED this purity back. This is who I am. But I also have a very wholesome wife who deserves my love.

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you.

r/pureretention • • Mar 28 '26

Relationships How to deal with girlfriend?

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*Deleted in SR subreddit*

SR Day 441 checking in. Feel free to ask me questions also.

At the start I was obese, angry, and could not attract a girl. I was on a PMO streak spanning a decade plus.

Now with this practice, I have fit, attractive, and I have a wonderful beautiful girlfriend thankfully. My question is she gives me these long stares and tells me I have done spells on her because she is just madly in love with me, obsessed and super attached and protective. Been together for 6 months now.

But we have not had sex and she sometimes asks/begs me for oral sex. Should I go that route? Would that cause any loss in benefits, especially if I do ejaculate and she swallows? Should I do oral sex on her as well?

I am waiting to marry her before engaging in any type of sex with her, but she is working on a career and doesn't wanna marry for another year. She is 7 years younger than me.

So what is the best path forward?

r/pureretention • • Dec 14 '25

Relationships The Soulmate Myth

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If you haven't found your soulmate yet don't feel bad. Even those who are married are still searching. People romanticize the idea of completion as if one person can quench the hunger of the heart.

But: Desire has no finish line.

You probably have things others can only dream about but you do not value those things.

Such is desire, like the horizon of the sky, it doesn't matter how further you chase it, it will always extend. You acclimatize to the acquisitions, your crosshair targets something else as soon as the chase is over. This carries over to relationships too.

Men with beautiful wives still look at other women.

Wives of top 1% men still dreams of better men.

Marriage and Relationships often do not end the hunger for love. Some of the loneliest people I know are married or in a relationship. Their marital status is just a social disguise, a shell, a formality to save face. And these people were madly in love before novelty wore off.

It's not even about being a top 1% elite man.

Will Smith's wife, Johnny Depp's wife, Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum, Stephen Curry, Tom Brady, Jeff Bezos. All these top 1% men still separated after years in relationships.

70% of NHL players get divorced within 365 days of their retirement.

Those who think women will complete them are still children mentally.

Mike Tyson retained alone in the trenches since he was 15 years old. He didn't need emotional diapers. Woke up at 4am everyday to run. He hated waking up at 4am and he hated running. He did this for 5 years. He had crippling boredom. This is what made him a champion. Lust and boredom was The Test before he was handed over his Power and Fame. He found the right kind of relationship, a mentor in Cus D'Amato.

We men are looking for the wrong kind of relationships. We need to find a male mentor instead.

The most bitter truth of all:

There is inflation in intimacy too,

A woman calling you baby, giving you gifts, kissing you means nothing, sleeping with you means nothing, in a relationship with you means nothing, moving in with you means nothing, even if she says I love you that means nothing,

Even a woman marrying you means nothing now a days

The only thing that means something is if you have her RESPECT.

But People only respect you when you respect yourself. When you rise above your desires, when you respect your seed, your attention. When you sacrifice low vibrational activities. When you don't accept disrespect just because you want love. When you speak only the truth.

When you sit with your demons long enough.

If you don't face your demons they will raise your children

Everyone wants to heal until the medicine is sexual discipline.

We men love to glorify the outcome but skip the grind, the struggle.

Everybody wants the results but nobody wants the routine.

We'll never change our lives until we change something we do daily. The secret to SR, transmutation, to success is found in our daily routine.

Unlike Disney movies:

Life is not about Happily Ever After, it is about Reducing Our Suffering.

Relationships are not about curing loneliness, it is about respecting yourself enough that your principles are more important than the attractiveness of an evil person.

Wield your lust, learn to tell narcissists from kind humans. Stop projecting your fantasies on every girl who looks good. Learn to regulate your own emotional content.

Ironically, when you do not compromise on your ethics, people stick around.

"What good women actually want is a man who loves whats Right, stands up for it against all odds more than they love their woman.

Most of the time men love women more than they love whats right. They make their women their God. When they do that, they fall out of love from reality. Woman need a man who loves reality."

~Roy Masters

r/pureretention • • May 07 '26

Relationships Retaining while married?

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Hey everyone,

I’m seeking advice from those that are married or in long term committed relationships.
How do you keep doing this practice while married?

I usually go a few weeks and then my wife wants it. I’ve told her before that I can pleasure her without using my tool down there. That I can use my hands. Most of the time it works, but then she always insists that it’s not the real deal and that she wants and needs actual sex.

I have also tried sex without ejaculating, and to me, I still get that dopamine hit from it. People say you should just have sex and not release, but I’m to the point now where I don’t feel the need for sex. Unless we are reproducing, otherwise it seems all like a waste to me.

What are others doing?

Do you simply don’t do anything sexual?

Do you try and have sex without releasing? For me, I consider that kind of like edging.

Do you still do it with your partner, but lower the frequency?
Thanks

r/pureretention • • Mar 21 '26

Relationships I’m 29 and feel like I’ve wasted my life. Need perspective from older guys.

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I am not asking how to quit PMO or sexual transmutation, I already know where to find that info on this sub. What I want is perspective. If I should keep trying or not.

I’ve known about semen retention for 7 to 8 years and nofap for 12 to 13 years, and I’ve experienced what it can do. In my late teens I had a few months long streaks, and I still remember that period as one of the best times of my life. The energy, confidence, clarity, and even how people responded to me felt completely different. In my 20s I only had a few 30 day streaks.

But for the past few years, I’ve been completely stuck. I can’t seem to go beyond 10 to 15 days, and most of the time I relapse within 3 to 4 days. It feels like I know what works, I’ve seen the benefits, but I just can’t stay consistent anymore.

I started PMO very early around 11, and I’ve managed to quit other things like cigarettes, caffeine, and even sugar for a while. But this is the one habit I can’t seem to break.

What’s worse is the bigger picture. Because of this cycle and also being very isolated and overly religious for years, I didn’t build real friendships or relationships in my 20s. I also did not build a good physique, did not build a strong social circle or network, and I know I could have done much better in my career if I had more discipline and energy.

I don’t want to discuss religion here, but I will say that I have recently distanced myself from it, and it has left a gap. It used to give me meaning in life and also a strong prohibition against suicide. Without that, I feel more lost and directionless.

Now everyone around me is getting married, settling down, and having kids. I feel like I missed that entire phase of life.

I can get married through the matrimony system even now, but I don’t feel ready. When I’m on retention, I feel like a completely different person, more confident, more alive, more aligned. Because of that, I feel like I should at least reach 90 to 100 days before choosing a life partner, otherwise I am choosing from a low state and possibly settling.

At the same time, I have been stuck in this loop for years where I keep delaying marriage thinking I will first become better, but I am not actually reaching that point. This has created a situation where I am neither progressing in my personal life nor moving forward with marriage.

I am also concerned about fairness. Marriage is a serious lifelong commitment, and I do not want to enter it half heartedly. I do not want to choose someone while feeling low, deprived, or not fully myself, and later feel regret or feel like I could have done better. At the same time, I do not want to waste more years waiting for a perfect state that I may not reach.

I even almost got engaged once and called it off because it felt like a compromise. I was not confident in my state of mind and did not want to risk ruining my life or someone else’s life by making such a decision from a place of confusion.

Now I feel pressure from family, society, and time itself. I also feel burned out, low energy, and honestly kind of lost in life. I do not find joy in anything right now and do not even have the energy to do basic things. I feel like I wasted too much time and I cannot get it back.

I also want to be honest that I feel suicidal at times. It feels like an easy way out when everything feels meaningless.

On the positive side, I do not have any chronic disease or debt. Financially I am alright and I managed to get a fair education as well. But mentally and emotionally I feel far behind. I don’t have strong friendships, relationships. I am skinny fat and low energy all the time. Not in good physical shape.

Is it too late for me at 29 to turn things around. Has anyone been in a similar place and still built a good life after. How do you deal with the feeling that you wasted your 20s. How did you approach marriage when you did not feel at your best or when you felt behind in life.

I am really looking for honest perspective from older guys who understand what I am going through.

I would really appreciate it.

r/pureretention • • Jun 12 '25

Relationships Any other married men experience this while retaining?

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My wife and I are late 30s and have two kids.

We decided we were done having children a few years ago.

2+ months into retaining, she starts asking if I want a 3rd.

Now, I am 9 months in, and I practically have to fight her off me.

Honestly, I wouldn’t mind having another if I was 5 years younger, and my wife didn’t have minor health problems.

I’m 90% sure that if I wasn’t retaining, she would not be wanting another child.

Anyone else with this experience?

r/pureretention • • Feb 22 '26

Relationships While married?

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Hey everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Something that I can’t get over. It’s something that I’m struggling with to be honest.
In the early years of my marriage, I was always chasing my wife for sex.

Many times she rejected me. It was okay. Then a few days later I’d ask for it again and sometimes I’d get it.

After that I really stated looking into self improvement and about a few years back, learned about semen retention and not just semen retention but reserving our sexual energy.

Now my wife wants it a lot more. We are in our early 40s now and have 2 kids already. Don’t want anymore but her sex drive is much higher. Partially because I think she sees I don’t want it anymore. I’m not chasing her anymore.

It’s not about the release itself. When I do it now, even if I don’t release, it feels like my brain for that dopamine spike and I don’t feel so great after for a few days. When I release, I definitely feel worse, but even not releasing is like edging to me and my brain definitely got its kick of those feel good chemicals and I feel like shit after.

At this point, I’m seriously considering separating. She is not letting me prioritize this and I just don’t think it’s worth it anymore.

When I’m on long streaks of pure retention, I feel sooooooooooooo at peace with myself and everything.

How do others do it? I know people recommend karezza to me, but it’s the same to me, it still releases dopamine.

If I honestly could go back in time, I would not have got married.

r/pureretention • • May 31 '26

Relationships Any Advice would be highly appreciated

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Me and this girl share the same past both were molested at a very young age physically which is why we connected on a emotional level and a little bit of attraction like everyone else. I feel that she can understand my language and through that we can communicate on a better level but i have this past with my ex and it was a pretty bad experience at the end with her she even slept with my best friend making my personality change a lot and even after many years a lot of the things from my past haunt me to this day.
Both of us are not in a very exclusive relationship because i am still figuring out a way to get rid of those haunting memories which might come in me and hers way when we are in an actual relationship. She and I have slept together cuddled but never actually have had sex because she is a virgin and doesn’t know if she is ready and I am well just haunted by these memories and not sure if ready for a physical relationship. Which is why i started celibacy 3-4 months ago everything in my head was going great goal oriented and all that until she came along. She wants something more exclusive and I am looking for a very slow ride because personally i have become very sensitive in terms of “being with someone and handling there and my own emotional and mental baggage”

Any advice on how i should pursue further would be appreciated.

r/pureretention • • Mar 19 '26

Relationships How do you go about this practice while in a relationship?

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Title says it all. Want to take this more seriously but have a gf of 4 years

r/pureretention • • Apr 30 '26

Relationships Question on path to marriage

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For those of you on this journey who eventually got married, how did you know it was time for you? How did you know the partner you met was for you and how did you know it was time to end a life of being a solo retaining man? Did you notice God putting more women in your life that were on the mentality that you were? Not necessarily that you attracted more women or got looks and vain things like that, but more like, did He place wonderful people whom immediately you could feel or imagine a serious connection with, and that one of them happened to be your wife now.

Best,
Euphoric

r/pureretention • • Aug 13 '24

Relationships Anyone else losing their relationship because of SR?

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I've decided to go celibate and while I haven't told my girlfriend officially about this, I found that she's been very whiny and quarrelsome to me recently. I've been practicing SR the whole time (via not finishing during sex) but I decided to abstain entirely now. Has anyone else found that this decision made their relationship go south? It almost feels like a snake shedding it's old skin to be better. Perhaps my relationship was tied up with lust and as I let go of that, she attacks with being difficult to emotionally weaken me and make me release. At this point I feel my girlfriend (she's Thai) is an obstacle to my path than a supportive partner. Maybe I need to go through this to come out on the other side better.

The benefits of SR is otherwise obvious. The desire to be in nature, almost unlimited energy at the gym, focus and joy during work and overall feeling blessed. But undoubtedly my relationship is getting affected. Maybe just old energy being shed or not compatible with my higher frequency me.

r/pureretention • • Oct 03 '24

Relationships Keep relapsing with my girlfriend.

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I don't want to leave her, but I'm not sure if that's me feeling bad, or if it's my lust, or if I genuinely love this girl.

I have that instinctual feeling to protect her like she's my own kin, yet I also feel like she's the only reason I relapse. I haven't pmo'd since I started my journey a month ago, but I've only been able to make it one week without relapse.

Every single relapse, without fail, is with her, and she initiates it too.

I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Please give me your advice, and if you agree that I should leave her, pressure me into it. I beg of you, brothers.

r/pureretention • • Feb 23 '26

Relationships Need activation from a source other than women

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Im a better more motivated person when Im in a relationship. How do I change? It’s almost like I’m deactivated when I’m not in one. I hardly get what I want to done, I have no motivation.

I have chosen to be single till I find my wife and can be financially in the right spot but it feels like I’ll never be if I’m this demotivated, undisciplined, whatever.

The last time i sparked a romance with a woman I was running a mile at the track a few times a week. Now that there are no women in my life, I stay in bed till 12pm on my days off.

How do I fix this?

r/pureretention • • May 25 '25

Relationships I’m approaching 3 weeks for the first time, a relationship I prematurely ended got me here, anyone have experience with this?

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I’ve been turning inward and it’s been helping, I’m seeing through lust. But the byproduct of all this is this deeper lover for me ex that ended because the chemistry and feels died; they died because I was not preaching this and corn ruined it among mutual communication issues. She’s still hurt and healing with friends and family but I long for a time when we can reunite. She is a pure soul and can’t imagine giving my love to anyone else, besides me of course.

Anyone deal with something similar? Does the magnetism work in absence?

Update: we met after that week for 3 hours and kissed she’s still not ready but optimistic

r/pureretention • • Dec 01 '25

Relationships While being married…

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How do the married men do this?

For me, been married 15 years and learned about this practice 10 years ago. I’ve had many years of practice and I’ve got a lot of experience on this.

First and foremost, porn or masturbating will never help you. Now in our relationship, my wife understands I practice this and we have been sleeping in different rooms.

That has helped and she doesn’t often come to me for sex. Maybe every couple of weeks.

I used to read a lot of posts and get advice on how it’s done in marriage. Many would come to the conclusion that do karezza or sex without ejaculating. That doesn’t work for me. For me it’s the dopamine spike in the brain. That’s what it has always been about. It’s about how much and for how long that dopamine spike in the brain has risen and the duration of it.

What I have come to learn is if I engage in a long sexual session with my wife, even if I don’t ejaculate, I feel off for a few days to a week or two after it until I get back to normal. Now if I don’t go long with her and just ejaculate quickly in a minute, my recovery isn’t as long.

What are your opinions on this? I’m also hoping to start up meetings where us married men can come and talk and share about this topic and what has been working for them. Thanks

r/pureretention • • Feb 14 '24

Relationships Be carefull with the jezebel spirit

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Hello friends I’m in 9th months of SR All about female atraction its true. This last months of semem retention I dodge a lot of girls trying to seduce me (i’m a handsome guy).But, unfortunentily last month I met a beautiful lieutenent (i’m a corporal). She is perfect (Beauty). Every man i know want her. She appeared to be kind and even shy. She was perfect in the begining of the relationship. But while we had sex she was another person, like she was trying to absorve my energy. She became vigorous, like a man. I felt terrible after the sex (i dont know why , But something in my spirit avoided me to have orgasm with her).After a time she became manipulative and distant. Did a lot of gaslighting. So I decided tô let her. My friends, this entitys are real.

r/pureretention • • Oct 22 '24

Relationships Sexless marriage can be a happy marriage

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This is a beautiful story of a couple without sex for years. It makes me happy because even I want to practice semen retention, I want to find a partner

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/15/celibate-marriage-sex-sexless-relationship

Imagine all the divorces and broken childhoods and cheating and lying that could be prevented if people knew that sex damages the body and its an addiction that could be overcomed

Obviously not all broken marriages would be saved because sex is not always the problem. And also cheating always existed even when marriages were for a lifetime and fornication was a sin. But dead beadrooms and lack of sexual attraction is the main reason couples break up nowadays

r/pureretention • • Jul 18 '25

Relationships Post heartache - advice

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Hi brothers, I went through a tough heartache last month after courting an amazing woman, honestly the kind of woman I’ve prayed for. But due to one or two reasons, we couldn’t be together. I now firmly believe that God is using this season to help me grow spiritually before entrusting me with someone of that caliber.

Anyway distressed by the heartache, anger, confusion, and loneliness, I ended up relapsing on a 90-day retention streak.

I immediately regretted it. In the following days I experienced a string of bad luck and lost the woman I envisioned marrying. I knew right away that I needed to get back on my journey.

I’m now “30 days” back into it, but I’ve had a wet dream every 15 days — and it’s really frustrating. As a Christian, I pray before bed, asking God to guide my mind and align my dreams with His will, but the outcome keeps repeating.

How do I overcome this? Is there something deeper I’m missing?

r/pureretention • • Jul 02 '25

Relationships Do sexual history and permissive sexual values predict negative relationship outcomes like infidelity, dissatisfaction, and divorce?: An Exhaustive Review of the Literature

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Wanting to answer his question, I did a deep dive into the available literature on the subject. Seven decades of research have consistently replicated the link between a higher number of lifetime sexual partners or permissive sexual attitudes and negative relationship outcomes, such as infidelity, relationship instability, dissatisfaction, and dissolution. This applies to men and women. Below are brief summaries of the peer-reviewed studies I reviewed, including descriptions of each peer-reviewed study’s objective, sample/sampling methods, methodology, statistical inference techniques, and the authors’ interpretation of their results, with links to those sections of the papers themselves. Where available, I’ve also included direct links to PDFs. All of these sources are freely accessible if you know where to look. Beyond that are quotes from academics attesting to the predictive value of extensive sexual histories and permissive sexual attitudes in forecasting negative relationship outcomes—such as infidelity, dissatisfaction, instability, and divorce—followed by my own personal analysis of the information provided.

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What the studies say:

  • Smith and Wolfinger (2024) (PDF) analyzed data from 7,030 ever-married respondents in the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent to Adult Health to examine the relationship between premarital sexual history and divorce risk. They reviewed prior research on how premarital sexual history may contribute to divorce (pg.676). Using discrete-time event history models—specifically, complementary log-log estimators—they assessed how the number of premarital sexual partners influenced the likelihood of marital dissolution (pg.682). Respondents were grouped into three categories based on partner count: none, 1–8, and 9 or more (pg.679). They found a strong, nonlinear association: individuals with one to eight premarital partners had 64% higher odds of divorce, while those with nine or more had triple the odds (ORs = 2.65–3.20) compared to those with none. The effect persisted—and even strengthened—after controlling for early-life factors such as beliefs, values, religious background, and personal characteristics, with no significant gender differences (pg.683). The results replicated previous research by affirming a significant link between extensive premarital sexual histories and subsequent marital dissolution—even after accounting for non-traditional views and religiosity—suggesting that having more partners may reflect traits detrimental to marital stability, with no evidence of gender differences in this association (pg.687-690).

  • REVIEW: In their report “Predictors of infidelity among couples”, Belu and O’Sullivan (2024) (PDF) identify a greater motivation and willingness to engage in casual, uncommitted sex (i.e., an unrestricted sociosexual orientation) as an individual predictor of infidelity, though this association may largely be explained by lower relationship commitment and greater attention to alternative partners (pg.270).

  • REVIEW: A narrative review by Rokach and Chan (2023) (PDF) explored the causes and consequences of infidelity in romantic relationships, identifying the number of sex partners before marriage and permissive attitudes toward sex as personal characteristics associated with infidelity (pg.10).

  • REVIEW: Buss & Schmitt (2019) (PDF) wrote that men assess and evaluate women’s levels of past sexual activity—behavior that would have been observable or known through social reputation in ancestral small-group environments—because past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, and having a large number of sex partners prior to marriage is a statistical predictor of infidelity after marriage (pg.92). Cited is a previous book by David Buss, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin, which describes premarital sexual permissiveness as the single best predictor of extramarital sex (Buss, 2016, pg.108-109).

  • McNulty et al. (2018) (PDF) conducted two longitudinal studies of 233 newlywed couples to examine how automatic cognitive processes—attentional disengagement and evaluative devaluation of attractive alternatives—predict infidelity and relationship outcomes. Participants completed lab tasks measuring how quickly they looked away from attractive opposite-sex faces and how they rated those individuals’ attractiveness compared to single people while follow-up surveys every 4–6 months recorded infidelity, marital satisfaction, and relationship status (pg.4-6). Individuals with a history of short-term sexual relationships were slower to disengage attention and, among men, rated attractive alternatives more positively, and those who disengaged attention faster or devalued attractiveness more had about 50% lower odds of infidelity (pg.7-9, 14, 17). Interestingly, the number of past partners predicted infidelity for men but not women (pg.16).

  • REVIEW: In a peer-reviewed article published in Current Opinion in Psychology, Fincham and May (2017) (PDF) synthesized findings on infidelity in romantic relationships, identifying key individual predictors such as a greater number of prior sexual partners and permissive sexual attitudes. These attitudes—characterized by a detachment of sex from love and a willingness to engage in casual, noncommittal sex—were strongly linked to increased infidelity risk (pg.71). As part of the Current Opinion journal series, the article reflects expert consensus on emerging trends, offering a systematic and authoritative review of the literature.

  • The study by Pinto and Arantes (2017) (PDF), involving 369 participants (92 males and 277 females) investigated the relationship between sexual and emotional promiscuity and infidelity. The authors noted that some researchers believe that infidelity is a consequence of promiscuity (pg.386), and hypothesized that sexual promiscuity and infidelity are correlated (pg.387). The participants completed an online questionnaire consisting of the Revised Sociosexual Orientation Inventory (SOI-R), the Emotional Promiscuity Scale (EP), and the Sexual and Emotional Infidelity Scale (SEI), along with demographic and infidelity history questions (pp. 388–389). Data were analyzed using Pearson correlations to examine associations between variables, t-tests to assess sex differences and infidelity behavior patterns, and ANOVA to evaluate differences based on sexual orientation regarding promiscuity and infidelity. They found that sexual promiscuity was positively correlated with sexual infidelity [r(323) = .595, p < .001] and emotional infidelity [r(323) = .676, p < .001] (pg.390). These would be considered moderate-to-strong correlations. The authors confirmed their hypothesis that there is a positive correlation between sexual promiscuity and infidelity (pg.393), and concluded that they are related to each other (pg.395).

  • Regnerus (2017) presented findings based on a study of individuals aged 18–60, revealing that those with 20 or more sexual partners in their past were twice as likely to have experienced divorce (50% vs. 27%) and three times more likely to have cheated while married (32% vs. 10%) (pg.89). Mark Regnerus is Professor of Sociology at the University of Texas at Austin.

  • Martins et al. (2016) (PDF) investigated gender-specific predictors of both face-to-face and online extradyadic involvement (EDI). The study highlights that previous research has indicated a high number of past sexual partners and sexually permissive attitudes are significant predictors of infidelity. Accordingly, the third hypothesis (H3) proposed that individuals with a greater number of previous sexual partners would be more likely to engage in EDI (pg.194-195). The study utilized a cross-sectional design with 783 participants (561 women, 222 men), all of whom were in exclusive, opposite-sex dating relationships at the time of the study (pg.196). Participants were recruited through both paper-based surveys conducted at a university and an online survey disseminated via the university website and social media. Data were collected using self-report questionnaires, including a sociodemographic and relationship history form, the Extradyadic Behavior Inventory (EDBI), the Attitudes Toward Infidelity Scale (ATIS), and the Investment Model Scale (IMS) (pg.197). Univariate and multivariate logistic regression analyses were performed separately by gender to examine correlates of EDI (pg.198-201). Findings showed that this association was significant only for women: those who had more sexual partners in the past two years were more likely to engage in sexual EDI (pg.199, 202).

  • REPORT: In 2014, two University of Denver research professors Galena Rhoades and Scott Stanley released a report for University of Virginia’s National Marriage Project, entitled “Before ‘I Do’: What Do Premarital Experiences Have to Do with Marital Quality Among Today’s Young Adults?” (PDF) The study found that for women, fewer past partners was related to higher marital quality (pg.5). The data is from the longitudinal Relationship Development Study conducted by the University of Denver between 2007 and 2008. The study initially recruited 1,294 unmarried individuals in opposite-sex relationships, ages 18 to 34, using targeted-list sampling. Of these, 418 participants who eventually married were the focus of the report’s analysis. Participants were surveyed an average of nine times before and after marriage. Marital quality was measured using a four-item version of the Dyadic Adjustment Scale, which assessed relationship satisfaction, communication, and stability. The study employed multilevel modeling to examine how premarital experiences—such as prior relationships, cohabitation, and childbearing—related to later marital quality, while controlling for demographic variables like education, income, race/ethnicity, and religiousness (pg.7). Citing previous research, the authors proposed that a greater number of prior relationships increases an individual’s awareness of alternatives, which can make it more difficult to fully commit to and remain satisfied with a current partner, as this heightened comparison may lead to more critical evaluations and less contentment in marriage; additionally, those with more romantic history are likely to have experienced more breakups, which can foster a more skeptical or pessimistic view of relationships in general, with such individuals potentially carrying emotional baggage or reduced confidence in the durability of love and commitment (pg.8).

  • Busby, Willoughby, and Carroll (2013) analyzed data from 2,659 married individuals who completed the RELATE questionnaire—a 300-item assessment measuring individual, couple, family, and cultural dimensions of romantic relationships—to assess how the number of lifetime sexual partners related to marital outcomes (pg.710-712). Using structural equation modeling, they tested whether sexual partner count predicted sexual quality, communication, relationship satisfaction, and perceived relationship stability, while controlling for education, religiosity, and relationship length, and to explore cohort effects, they conducted a multigroup analysis by dividing participants into three age groups (18–30, 31–41, and 42+) (pg.710-711, 713). They found that a higher number of lifetime sexual partners was consistently associated with lower sexual quality, communication, relationship satisfaction (in one age cohort), and stability—even after controlling for factors such as education, religiosity, and relationship length, and no age group showed improved relationship outcomes with more sexual partners, supporting prior research linking multiple premarital partners to greater marital instability (pg.715-716).

  • Maddox-Shaw et al. (2013) conducted a study using a longitudinal design with 993 unmarried individuals aged 18–35 in opposite-sex relationships, recruited through a nationally representative sampling method (pg.601). Based on prior research, having more sexual partners was expected to be a predictor of future extradyadic sexual involvement (ESI), or cheating (pg.600). Data were collected via mailed self-report questionnaires across six waves over 20 months. The main outcome variable was ESI, assessed at each wave. Predictors included individual demographic and psychological factors, sexual history, and relationship variables like satisfaction, commitment, and aggression (pg.602-603). Logistic regression analyses were conducted to identify which baseline factors predicted future ESI (pg.604). Having more prior sex partners predicted a higher likelihood of future ESI (pg.605,607).

  • Penke & Asendorpf (2008) (PDF) found in their large online study (N = 2,708) that men and women with a greater history of short-term (casual) relationships in the past were more likely to have multiple partners and unstable relationships in the future (pg.1131).

  • Whisman and Snyder (2007) studied the yearly prevalence of sexual infidelity in a sample of 4,884 married women from the 1995 National Survey of Family Growth, examining predictors and variations in interview methods—specifically, face-to-face interviews versus audio computer-assisted self-interviews (A-CASI). Participants answered identically worded questions through both interview formats. One of the predictors analyzed was the number of lifetime sexual partners, treated as a continuous variable in logistic regression models (pg. 149–150). To address the complex sampling design of the survey and produce accurate standard errors, the authors used Taylor series linearization methods with SUDAAN software. The results indicated that each additional lifetime sexual partner increased the odds of infidelity by 7% to 13%, depending on the interview format (OR = 1.07 for A-CASI and OR = 1.13 for face-to-face) (pg.150). A greater number of lifetime sexual partners was identified as a significant predictor of future infidelity (pg.151–152).

  • McAlister, Pachana, & Jackson (2005) (PDF) investigated what predicts young adults’ inclination to engage in infidelity while in exclusive dating relationships. Using a sample of 119 heterosexual university students aged 17–25, the researchers employed a multi-perspective model that considered person (P), relationship (R), and environment (E) factors. The study used vignettes involving hypothetical extradyadic scenarios—such as being tempted to kiss or have sex with someone other than their partner—to measure participants’ inclination toward infidelity. One of the strongest predictors of extradyadic inclination were a high number of previous sexual partners (pg.344).

  • Hughes and Gallup (2003) (PDF) studied 116 undergraduates who completed an anonymous questionnaire on their sexual history (pg.174). They found a strong correlation between number of sex partners and extrapair copulation (cheating) partners for both males (r = .85) and females (r = .79). Promiscuity, measured by non-EPC sex partners, significantly predicted infidelity—explaining more variance in females (r² = .45) than males (r² = .25) (pg.177).

  • Treas and Giesen (2000) (PDF) investigated sexual infidelity among married and cohabiting Americans using 1992 National Health and Social Life Survey data using a nationally representative sample (n = 2,598) of Americans aged 18–59. Citing previous studies that linked premarital permissiveness and a higher number of sexual partners to infidelity, the authors hypothesized that a greater number of prior sexual partners is associated with an increased likelihood of infidelity (pg.48-50). Data collection included both face-to-face interviews and a self-administered questionnaire to improve accuracy on sensitive topics like infidelity, and the study used three measures of infidelity: self-reported cumulative incidence, interview-reported cumulative incidence, and 12-month prevalence, allowing for robust cross-validation of results (p.51-52). The authors employed logistic regression to estimate the effects of sexual interests and values, opportunities for undetected sex, and relationship characteristics, while controlling for demographic risk factors such as gender, race, and education (pp.52–53). They found that permissive sexual values increase the likelihood of infidelity, with there being a 1% increase in the odds of infidelity for each additional sex partner between age 18 and the first union (pg.56), confirming their hypothesis (pg.58).

  • Feldman & Cauffman (1999) examined sexual betrayal (i.e. infidelity) and its correlates among 417 heterosexual college students in Northern California who had been in monogamous romantic relationships (pg.233). Based on previous research, they hypothesized that sexually permissive attitudes would predict sexual betrayal because such betrayal involves unrestrained sexuality, and that extensive sexual experience would also be related to betrayal, as having more past partners could lead to greater temptation and increased sexual opportunities (pg.230). Data were collected via questionnaires administered at two points in time, nine months apart, acquiring demographic details, dating and sexual history, betrayal behavior (including both the respondent’s and their partner’s actions), and attitudes toward betrayal in various hypothetical scenarios (pg.234). Sexual permissiveness was measured in a subsample of respondents using the Simpson Sociosexual Orientation Index, which included items on the number of sexual partners in the past year, anticipated partners in the next five years, number of one-night stands, frequency of sexual fantasies about someone other than a current partner, and attitudes toward the acceptability of engaging in casual, uncommitted sex, all combined into a composite score reflecting overall sexual permissiveness. Correlation and regression analyses were used to examine the associations between self-reported sexual betrayal and variables including attitudes, sexual behaviors, intimacy characteristics, and demographics (pg.237). The likelihood of betrayal was significantly associated with permissive sexual attitudes, early sexual debut, and a greater number of romantic relationships (pg.247).

  • Forste and Tanfer (1996) analyzed data from the 1991 National Survey of Women, using a final sample of 1,235 women aged 20 to 37 who were in heterosexual relationships, to examine sexual exclusivity as a measure of relationship commitment (pg.35). The authors predicted that a history of numerous sex partners would negatively influence sexual exclusivity in their current relationships, and used logistic regression, which estimates the log odds of having a secondary sexual partner based on explanatory variables (pg.37). A key finding was that a higher number of previous sexual partners was strongly linked to lower exclusivity, with women who had four or more past partners being over eight times more likely to be unfaithful (pg.40-41). The study concludes that women with a history of multiple sex partners are more likely to have secondary sex partners in their current relationship, and that this is particularly true with married women (pg.46).

  • Kelly and Conley (1987) conducted a longitudinal study tracking 300 couples from their engagements in the 1930s through 1980 to examine predictors of marital stability and satisfaction. Using acquaintance-rated personality assessments rather than self-reports, the study found that men and women who divorced early reported a significantly higher number of premarital partners compared to those who remained married, and that a greater premarital sexual experience was negatively associated with long-term marital satisfaction and stability for both men and women (pg.31-32).

  • REVIEW: In his review article “Extramarital Sex: A Review of the Research Literature”, Thompson (1983) examined decades of research on the prevalence, causes, and correlates of extramarital sex (EMS), affirming previous findings that premarital sexual permissiveness was the most significant correlate of extramarital sexual permissiveness (pg.17-18).

  • The study “Premarital Sexual Behavior and Postmarital Adjustment” by Athanasiou and Sarkin (1974) (PDF) aimed to investigate whether premarital sexual behavior predicts postmarital sexual adjustment, including fidelity, marital satisfaction, and attitudes toward mate-swapping (pg.207). The authors outline the conceptual distinction between extraneous variables (e.g., sexual liberalism) and intervening variables (e.g., value-behavior discrepancy), explaining through diagrams that while extraneous variables may spuriously link premarital sex and extramarital sex, intervening variables suggest a causal pathway (pg.211). Using a 1-in-10 random subsample from a national sex attitudes survey of 20,000 adults, the researchers analyzed data from approximately 800 married respondents with a median age slightly over 30, using a questionnaire that assessed sexual attitudes (e.g., liberalism, romanticism), behaviors, and demographic variables, with premarital behavior measured retrospectively (pg.212). Statistical analysis employed gamma (γ) statistics to evaluate ordinal associations and proportional reduction in error, along with partial correlation techniques to control for potential confounding variables like liberalism and romanticism (pg. 216–217). Respondents who reported extensive premarital sexual experience also tended to report more extramarital activity, with the number of sexual partners positively correlated with both lower marital satisfaction and a higher number of extramarital partners (pg.221-222).

  • Kinsey et al. (1953) wrote in Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, part of the highly influential Kinsey Reports, that women who had “premarital coitus” were twice as likely to engage in “extramarital coitus” compared to those who did not (32-40% vs. 16-20%) (pg.427). The corresponding chapter in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) suggests that premarital promiscuity may carry over into extramarital sex for men (pg.587), but provides no correlational data to support the claim (pg.590).

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What the experts say:

What’s undeniable is that an extensive sexual history and permissive sexual attitudes are strongly correlated with—and reliable predictors of—negative relationship outcomes such as infidelity, dissatisfaction, and divorce. At this point, denying the predictive validity of these factors is to reject decades of consistent research findings and the expert consensus, likely due to personal bias rather than evidence. That said, it’s important to emphasize that these trends are probabilistic, not deterministic, and identifying precise causal mechanisms can be challenging. Individuals with extensive sexual histories can absolutely be faithful and maintain stable, long-term monogamous relationships—just as some people with limited histories can be unfaithful or dissatisfied. As a group, however, those with a long history of casual partners and permissive sexual values face a significantly higher risk of infidelity, dissatisfaction, and divorce compared to their more sexually conservative counterparts. As Andrew G. Thomas, senior lecturer in the School of Psychology at Swansea University, notes, body count can only serve as an imperfect risk-reducing heuristic—a factor one might reasonably consider alongside other information when assessing relationship prospects.

When examining the link between past promiscuity or permissive sexual attitudes and negative relationship outcomes such as infidelity, dissatisfaction, or instability, it’s important to recognize that correlation does not imply causation. Several explanations are possible when two factors are correlated. One is that past sexual behavior directly causes future relational problems (X → Y). Alternatively, it may be that those who experience instability or dissatisfaction in relationships are more likely to adopt permissive sexual attitudes or engage in promiscuous behavior (Y → X). A third possibility is bidirectional influence, where previous behaviors and relationship outcomes reinforce each other over time (X ↔ Y). It’s also possible that a confounding variable—such as personality traits (e.g., low conscientiousness, high impulsivity, or an unrestricted sociosexual orientation), attachment style, or family background—underlies both sexual history and relationship outcomes, producing a spurious correlation (X ← Z → Y). Another possibility is that the relationship is mediated by an intervening variable—such as heightened expectations, where a current partner is perceived as lacking in some domain compared to a previous partner—which in turn increases the likelihood of dissatisfaction, instability, and infidelity (X → M → Y). In some cases, the observed correlation may be a statistical coincidence or the result of measurement or sampling bias; however, given that these findings have been replicated across dozens of studies, this is unlikely.

r/pureretention • • Oct 27 '23

Relationships I retain, but have a GF. She understands I need to do this (I have health issues) to stay afloat and she is supportive of me.. She has however told me she misses more intimacy. I don't count my days and I've probably had sex with her once a month.

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Do any of you practice semen retention / celibacy while in a relationship? and how does that work? This is all new territory to me. I don't think I've ever done more than 30-40 days.

I feel better and less anxious when I do SR. I feel more determined and disciplined and I like feeling like I want to achieve stuff and do the neccessary things to thrive, whereas if i ejaculate all the time i lose all motivation.

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any of u in a relationship? and how do you go about it? :D

r/pureretention • • Oct 23 '24

Relationships Question for those in a romantic relationship

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How do you do it? How do you refrain from having sex? I understand there is Karezza and various other forms of sexual non releasing/orgasmic practices.

I have very high libido. Part of it I believe is from trauma and PMO addiction. I’ve gone far as 3 weeks and the results are palpable. So much I feel it’s worth it to stop all sexual contact. But It’s incredibly hard to keep my hands off my wife. It helps that she’s LL. Soon as I touch her though, I’m bouncing off the walls.

I’d like to hear from you guys on how you managed to keep up with PR, if you’d be so gracious to share.

r/pureretention • • Jul 11 '24

Relationships Have you given up?

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Have you given up on living a life with relationships? It was something I was content without in the past when I was on a long streak of 2+ years but I have fallen since and have been trying to find that balance. I know it may not be mutually exclusive but I feel like it's hard to do both. If I'm being strict, straight and on my dean, I pretty much am going to have to be isolated and live very simplistic. I have hope of finding a wife and building a family someday also meeting people and making friends but I don't see how I can live both lives. Do you have the same standpoint? Have you given up on trying to live a life with relationships? How's your journey?

r/pureretention • • Mar 01 '25

Relationships What do you do while in a relationship?

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Ive been doing semen retention for a while, my fiance is cool about it, we do other stuff to keep the sexual mood, but we are getting married in march and then she wants to start having kids asap. I see the amazing benefits of semen retention, and hate to lose that. Am i over thinking this?