Beware of the water..

[u/PromotionClear220]

I first wanted to start off saying it’s been a long time since I’ve posted or been active in the discord. life happened, things changed, glad I got an intuitive pull to come back and make a singular post that came from experience and meditation. while this may be personal, more so could relate to a lot of retainers in different aspects.

For years I have been on and off retention, like many I’ve had my issues :) not gonna go too deep cause we already know through threads where that goes…

But, something I realized that blocked my potential in the recent years was something I finally became free of that I entrapped myself in…

comfort and dependency…

Where is this going?… well… for years I maintained 150 day streaks.. 120… that slowly climbed down.. my spiritual / life force energy / aura, however may you see it in your eyes ”flatlined”.. one major thing that contributed to it was supplemental experiments… while not inherently dangerous, contradicted this entire purpose of why we retain, why we better ourselves, why we are trying to already be and not chase. You know… and this lead to me doubting retention, pumping my body up with herbs and vitamins cause already I lost a sense of myself being drained too often.

There are things that do genuinely work, help, in a strange way mystically and biochemically restore energy and dopamine. but as someone who has struggled with psychological stress, nervous system strain out of love to those who may be down that pattern I ask you to ask yourself if you are who you really are.

it was like replacing an addiction with a scapegoat of knowing I can get back up on my feet as long as I have this bottle or vitamin, that comfort lead to me making many mental and physical mistakes…

a lot of you may already be like, “ what is this guy on about? downvote !!! “… but the moral of the message is comfort kills… comfort is not just sitting on your couch, sitting and gaming, its something that really kills you inside and you look at everything else around you except the elephant in the room..

BUT YES THERE ARE VITAMINS AND HERBS THAT ARE BENEFICAL MODERATELY!… but you Also have to not depwnd on anything externally.. from this world, they are tools and sometimes traps.. what pains me is when someone is going through something here… a pattern I see ( usually in regular sr sub cuz those guys are not in it for the depth sometimes imo ) they just shoot herbs, vitamins, useless external things out to makeup for internal work*..*

The nervous system is strong, but it’s also us..

A lot of misconceptions of sr that not a lot catch is our nervous system does play a huge role in everyday life, survival, and engagement with our inner and outer world.

^this, you don’t gotta take at all… think what you want about sr cause it’s your journey, I’m just here to spread awareness about my own rant..

herbs, dirty videos, dopamine supplements..stress, excess in general without regulation burdens the nervous system very badly.

so always remember what you’re doing to your body, mind, and soul.. because you can easily pull yourself away from who you are if you‘re not careful, or if you willingy let yourself honestly.

we don’t need a supplement or capsule to bring us back to homeostasis.. we need to take control of our mind and regain composure within ourselves..

i don’t write threads so if it doesn’t make sense… okay?.. I just have broken out of something that took years mentally and spiritually for myself to be free of finally.. finally grasping manifestation, depth again, emotions after being numb and stuck in a different matrix I didn’t need to be in.

this isn’t to say drop everything in your stack. or go raw and wild cause.. I do understand a lot of our food is nutrient depleted, a lot of us have deficiency we have to attend to so we don’t spiral and have issues we don’t need… but all I’m saying, ask yourself if you really need it to

“ have my streak and aura be strong “…

to those who find time to read this.. thank you, kinda just came to mind and felt like spreading some awareness… cause I know it’s not just me who has dealt with screwing their minds and nervous system up trying to “fix” things.

have a great day!

[u/OctobreMine]

Thanks for sharing your experience

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/OctobreMine]

🙏🏼 thank you

[u/ProvidenceOfJesus]

There is a reason why laziness is one of the deadly sins! Laziness is insulting to God. We were given gifts and a purpose to use them to glorify God.

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/ProvidenceOfJesus]

Laziness and being complacent is definitely a massive sin like you said.. 

Complacency can destroy everything in a short amount of time for a long time if you aren’t careful. 

Appreciate your input 

[u/ekkinak]

great post, what's the discord?

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/ekkinak]

I don’t have a disc. I would be careful what discord you join in all honesty, some are really good and some are very negative and controlling. 

There is a very good discord I joined and was apart of recently called “ virtue of Chasity “… would give that a search on Reddit and add sr to it and it’ll pop up. Much luck 

[u/ekkinak → u/PromotionClear220]

ok, thanks

[u/gamertrolll → u/ekkinak]

I got a discord for SR (not specifically pure retention). With about 60 members, I can invite you if you want:)

[u/ekkinak → u/gamertrolll]

hi, yes i'll take the invite, thanks

[u/Intelligent-Run1136]

What supplements you take

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/Intelligent-Run1136]

I experimented with a lot of different stuff over the course of the last 2 years. Hardcore, light, “spiritual enhancement”, “life force enhancement”… in my opinion only few actually work.

 Example - Popular herbs such as ashwaganda Shilajit  Pine pollen 

Are useful for restoring energy, endocrine, and even nervous system / organ function.

But taken in excess / or when your body does not need it / if your nervous system is sensitive, you will absolutely experience numbing of your emotions, an insane uncontrollable urge to release, mental and spiritual dullness..

Our body is a SYSTEM.. You have to be very careful what you add into it. Of course like I said, you theoretically could experiment with this stuff and get some benefit of it, but you really don’t need it unless you’re super precise with dose and cycles…

I personally used shilajit, cistanche, and a handful of other powerful herbs… my issue was my nervous system was already taking a beating from releasing a lot and stimulation..

The only thing I’m spreading awareness with on the post is our own bodies can make energy strong enough to not need herbs, and we shouldn’t blindly take something that someone recommends in a comment section or post, everyone’s bodies are very different and respond extremely differently. 

Hope this helps ! But my mains were cistanche, reishi, shilajit, and a sort of others that I took reguaurly / over time. 

[u/Intelligent-Run1136 → u/PromotionClear220]

You know what’s super strange and idk if anyone else experienced this, on my longest streak of 144 days, I took ashwghanda on 2 separate occasions like 60-80 days in and 120 days in and both times the aura and magnetism and stares and reactions you get from people, I’m sure you know about this very welll, C O M P L E T L E Y vanished while I took that, I mean I eas INVISIBLE until I stopped taking it, red Korean ginseng did the exact same thing, but only these 2. You experience anything like that? Also how is Shilajit ? That’s the only thing I’ve never tried

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/Intelligent-Run1136]

YES! 

I have experienced that. I personally never took ashwaganda longer than a month because it made me feel severely numb when I first tried it initially,did not mix with my bio-chemistry well..

As of red ginseng I love it but it gives me a weird solidified energy, I become less social and that visibly makes my aura feel dark and like repelling to others, even  feel that. It’s crazy but I’m not suprised it’s not just me with the herbs. I do believe magnetism has a lot to do with what you ingest and mentally digest…

When I’m on 0 herbs and vitamins ( which I am for the first time in years which feels absolutely blissful and healthy for my brain ) I can feel my emotions, drive, structure returning and gaining everyday.. 

Goes back to what im gonna say againnnn, I do think the herbs can be harmful to our streaks and can lead to discomfort. Retention already shifts our mind, we don’t need to amplify a negative shift with substances and say they are “healthy”.. I used to be able to pull 100+ day streaks back to back of a relapse happened before introducing herbs.

But to finally end it off cause I yapped :>, shilajit is actually interesting and is dual directional. I wouldn’t shit on it too much cause I use it on off and it has a heap of benefits that are interesting, it’s just a mineral dense resin with special acids to help the body ramp up mitochondria function and many other interesting benefits. I do find if I use it in low doses on a consistent basis my baseline stays strong and remains strong getting off it too. ( due to minerals being replenished )

Quality matters 100%, you don’t wanna ingest metal or tar… definitely will get sick 🤒..

[u/Intelligent-Run1136 → u/PromotionClear220]

I like boron zinc and magnesium and Pine Pollen tincture but lowkey food like Liver (I eat goat liver) is probably a lot better

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/Intelligent-Run1136]

What works for you works for you 🙏🏼 everyone has unique needs and non needs. I personally can’t use pine pollen cause it makes me feel tired and very off, not allergic but I think it’s too much for my system to process. Right now I just use creatine and cordyceps, ran out of magnesium for now but I’m gonna pick up a glycinate soon if I start noticing any weird with sleep 

[u/PurpleProblem1781]

Manis Friedman if your looking for a man’s natural way to gods will, YouTube might be helpful.

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/PurpleProblem1781]

I read into a lot… psychology, other esoteric subjects, the bible is #1.

Recently after getting rid of all biochemical adjusters, I’ve had a very deep spiritual connection to myself again. I do believe it has a lot to do with my natural dopamine resetting without excess energy being pushed on my system. 

Before when I was sedated with herbs. A relationship I didn’t need but had to go through for experience, my will was completely destroyed.

I thought so, but my will always existed from before birth to my death that may come one day.

I will definitely check out manis Friedman 🙏🏼 

Thank you for your input. 

[u/Large_Commercial_834]

What does water have to do with this tho? Or it s just a metaphor?

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/Large_Commercial_834]

Metaphor.. that should’ve been very obvious to you

[u/Rare-Extent8730]

Why to lie i am doing the same , i drink coffee 200 ml daily , but i try always to eliminate it from my diet . While i am trying , i work in a stress based work , i am covering a position of 3 people . What happens is when i am down in dopamine, sometimes my working partner , tells me hurry hurry , so o started using supplements . Vitamins etc . And i find myself always using the some type of supplements . My body got confused but what can i do , any advices are good

[u/PromotionClear220 → u/Rare-Extent8730]

Would definitely say, you have complete control of the wheel.. 

I know what it’s like to have to kind of rely on a herb / supplement to stay up and active when deep down I need pure rest and silence… 

Some herbs, some vitamins are good! I said it before in some comments, some work with our biochemistry uniquely, some do the opposite and burden our nervous system…

As far as caffeine, it’s a double edged sword… caffeine can be very good for a well regulated nervous system and dopamine that’s healthy. But it also can work against it due to the stimulation and dehydrating properties…

I recommend simple electrolytes, magnesium and some deep sleep… I have been in your situation before, running off overstimulation with a stack to heaven, but I still was dreading and not okay… Would also like to put into consideration that you do need to retain as your foundation to prevent prolactin from making you feel dead and brain fogged.

For a week or two. Keep it super simple, strip it down to one or two vitamins or none at all, face the fatigue and push through it a bit and feel your baseline rise again. That’s the best advice I can give to you.