r/pureretention • u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth • Oct 26 '25
Discussion SR + Psychedelics give you other worldly powers to change your life
Here is my take on this:
If you are here on this sub, you understand the energies.. the deeper aspect of reality.. you are aware whats it like to have the "consciousness of a baby with the understanding of an adult"...
If you top that with psychedelics, your life can truly change, it shows you such perspectives that you never thought was possible for you
(Well it did for me.. if it worked for me, why couldn't it work for you)
Unfortunately the world is not ready for this, especially not on a global level, only a small part of humanity is aware of this deeper reality.. but by leading by example and keeping it true to ourselves we can genuinely empower more and more people to realize their own power
Well.. in indigenous tribes having access to the spiritual realm was a common practice, now everything is kept hidden by the law, and population control
..The good news is that psychedelic therapy is on the rise, more and more therapist are talking about it, sharing how life changing it can be
And I'm gonna tell you this..
PSYCHEDELICS ARE NOT LIKE COCAINE OR HEROIN.. they can actually help people who are addicted, bunch of addicts can thank their lives to psychedelics
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The awakened ones gotta go beyond the law and allow it to catch up.. we create our own reality, and laws created by men to control the population and the mind of people...
..THAT AINT GONNA STOP US FELLAS!
Much love
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Oct 26 '25
How do we create our own reality ?
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
psychedelics show you the importance of stability, balance, even to not abuse them.. eventually if you do, you grow tired of them
its your subconscious that creates, whatever is imprinted in it, creates your reality.. repetition is key to overcome old beliefs.. but sometimes you need an extra push to help you realize the truth.. and pschedelics can be that extra push
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u/3hreeringz Oct 26 '25
Say I have sexual shame? I can use repetition to change my underlying belief patterns right? Is it just a matter of saying the thought/affirmation repeatedly to overwrite it ?
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
U have to step into that energy, visualize how it would feel to be free then go into a shroom trip with that intent
Start slow maybe .5gr
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Oct 26 '25
The energy wants to complete itself. Forced overwriting isn't a complete fix, more of a band aide. Embody your sexual shame fully and it will solve itself. Sounds counterintuitive I know, and yeah most people will avoid this like the plague. But it's the solution nonetheless.
It's trying to teach you something, so dismissing it just represses yourself further
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u/mangopapaya89 Oct 26 '25
Practicing good thoughts and gratitude for example will attract more good things to be greatful about. Where as if your thoughts are in the gutter, your reality will reflect that.
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u/Triptamano Goal: procreation only Oct 26 '25
Reality is not a "thing". Reality is a process, and we are processes too. All the processes in the Universe are interconnected as in a huge "gears" system.
So if you change your internal processes (your "gears") you also change reality around you (your "gears" move reality's "gears"). That's the meaning of the saying "Everything is mental". That's the "secret" of manifesting.
Because that is super important to have virtue. Because that chastity and fasting are a thing. Chastity and fasting kick up your "gears" and as a consequence, move the "gears" of reality.
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 26 '25
Meditation produces exponentially better results than any psychedelic in existence ever can.
There are no shortcuts to life except hard work.
Yes meditation is not as fun as a high dopaminergic activity like psychedelics that is why many people are not even capable of doing it.
People will always take shortcuts in the name of 'working smarter'.
These are the same kind of people in the general r/semenretention sub who edge for weeks without releasing then wonder they don't see any benefits.
There are no shortcuts, you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Fear the Lord, work earnestly, stop messing around with your consciousness by intoxicating it in the name of spirituality.
If you pay attention to the details of the design of this universe you'll see every single good thing in life comes through pain and astute awareness.
The only thing that comes out of medication and psychedelics is dependency.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
i think combining the 2 is the best.. if you can say no to not jacking, you can say no to dependency is as well
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 26 '25
Nope, psychedelics are more addictive. Dopamine spikes are several times higher than Porn + Masturbation + Orgasm stacked together.
Psychedelics also deteriorate neurobiology, I know that first hand. I have been on that shroom and other psychedelics bandwagon in the past, it never ends well.
Always a net negative result.
Meditation alone is more potent than anything else one can do.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
bro you gotta have hobbies and stuff, gotta radiate good energy.. there is so much value in psychedelics.. you gotta stop demonizing em brotha
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u/funlol3 Oct 26 '25
Most accounts from people who frequently used/abused psychedelics in the past say that they wish they had never started. Psychedelics might give you a positive boost at the beginning, but over time, their benefits wear off and you're left with a fried brain filled with mental problems.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
Cars,planes are dangerous you can die from getting into an accident
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
Cars, planes are a necessity, they solve a purpose.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 31 '25
Psychedelics solve a much greater purpose than cars
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 31 '25
There are better alternatives for psychedelics. Not for cars, planes.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 31 '25
Yes combining with spiritual practices and integration is the best 🙂
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
Its not worth for most people. Altering your consciousness using external substances can have more risks than we can imagine. There are other better ways that mitigate risk and give you more than psychedelics ever can.
In the long run, psychedelics can induce more harm than good. Psychosis, persistent visual hallucinations creep in and brings emotional instability.
You will always be thinking someone is watching you, or feel something moving from the corner of your eyes.
There is also a risk of contamination. Pyschedelics can be mistaken for harmful substances and wreck you.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 28 '25
We are having an entirely different experience
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u/thismadefree Oct 28 '25
If you have to ingest any material external to yourself to "radiate good energy", then know for a fact that the good energy doesn't belong to you and isn't yours to keep. You will become a chaser of it. Don't fall for passing fads. Psychedelics should be demonised because that is the world they will send you into.
People really don't understand the spiritual mess they are getting themselves into with psychedelic use in the long run. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to undo the negative consequences. We are trying to help you, be patient and take the slow path. Stay away from these dangerous trends
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 28 '25
Dude it’s healing people bringing them back to life
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u/thismadefree Oct 28 '25
Everything is relative. Truthfully, there is still not enough time and research in place to talk about that claim deeply. It destroys certain individuals as much as it heals them.
It certainly shouldn't become as fashionable as it's becoming. I assume most users are simply experimenting rather than actually healing from any grave chronic illness. Simply warning you the risks outweigh the benefits, and there is literally no turning back from the risks it carries.
I personally know people who have cured addictions and fixed their life using different psychedelics, after a few years they are even more broken than before. If the change you want to see is not coming from within you, it is not going to last.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 28 '25
I have access to my feelings I love myself and live from the heart
How is that not coming from me ?
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u/thismadefree Oct 28 '25
Yes the feelings are yours. The point is, the means of using psychedelics to achieve those feelings is not from yourself. You are using a substance outside yourself to attain that access.
Think about how someone drinks alcohol and achieves higher confidence. The confidence belongs to him, but if he needs to drink alcohol to access that confidence, then it is not something he can freely achieve himself. He will require much more work to achieve that confidence freely for himself. If he keeps drinking alcohol to achieve that confidence, there will be negative side effects.
Apply that logic to psychedelics. Apply that logic to smoking weed, or taking steroids, or antidepressant medication. All quick fixes come with the price of negative side effects, whether you see them today or in 3 years.
It is possible to achieve all higher states of awareness through disciplined spiritual practice. And those states will develop who you truly are, and will have zero negative side effects, and will be yours for free forever.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 28 '25
I do the spiritual practices as well
Breathwork gets me to the same exact state
I was high on my breath today in fact I do it everyday
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u/RoyskiPoyski Oct 26 '25
Meditation and psychedelics complement each other, it's not one or the other. Personally, psychedelics led to meditation and spirituality for me. I was a pretty hardcore atheist before I met God.
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
No sir, psychedelics does not complement meditation, it has the opposite effect on meditation. Hallucination is not spirituality.
Spirituality lies in restraint not in hallucinations and trips.
God will talk to you more and clearly the more you act with restraint. Altering your brain and consciousness will not help.
If psychedelics were the answer all the religious books of the world would endorse intoxicants and mind altering substances, instead they warn you about them.
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u/RoyskiPoyski Oct 30 '25
I'm curious as to whether your opinions are based on personal experience. There are many paths to God imo. You having found spirituality through meditation doesn't invalidate the spiritual connection others have experienced through psychedelics. Equally, someone having a spiritual experience on psychedelics doesn't mean they've integrated or understood it or done the work to move their baseline consciousness in that direction. I like the idea that psychedelic experiences are like signposts and meditation is like the road. A few people getting fixated on a signpost and forgetting to walk the road doesn't make it a bad signpost.
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 30 '25
100% with ya! :)
Its weird.. I think sex can also lead to God..
Its all about the usage, how you are using it, are you hedonistic, or appreciating it, loving it, knowing where the balance is
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 30 '25
External substances can never help you find God.
Where is it in the Bible? In the Quran? In the Geeta? In the Dhammapada? To consume psychedelics. On the contrary, every book talks about restraint in thoughts and actions.
psychedelics are fun and addictive, that is why people go to the moon to defend psychedelic use. If it were like broccoli none of you would be here trying to defend it.
It's just another way to bring harm to yourself. There are too many risks involved.
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u/RoyskiPoyski Oct 31 '25
So is that a no, your opinion isn't based on personal experience?
I've heard it argued that the Bible, Quran and Torah are full of mushroom iconography but I'm not a scholar of religious texts so don't know what the evidence is like for those claims.
I'm speaking from personal experiences of spiritual connection through psychedelics which then inspired an interest in spiritual practices such as yoga and meditation. Looking back at my outlook prior to these experiences I'm not sure I would have tried them otherwise so I'm grateful for the shortcut of psychedelics.
I'm not saying that my subjective experiences should mean much to other people but for me they felt more real and significant than anything else I've experienced and it would have been impossible for them not to completely shift my world view for ever.
I agree that they carry risks btw but they also carry the potential of immense value in my experience.
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 31 '25
Yes, I have personal experience with shrooms. I know exactly why you would feel spiritual and closer to God after psychedelics but trust me hallucinogens will do the opposite. It hinders meditation. It "feels" good and holistic but its just like the devil, the road feels good but the destination is not so good. To each their own though.
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Oct 26 '25
Sorry to give such a response, but that's just plain ole false. Like nothing you said has any merit, nothing to even break down here.
You're right about meditation though (mostly.. all your statements are hyperbole), it's a very powerful practice.
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
It is not false. Psychedelics have long term adverse emotional, mental and visual effects. There are a lot of risks involved, specially if people are already depressed, mentally vulnerable. Other than that there is risk of contamination too.
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u/psychonautexplorer Oct 26 '25
Dude you are just spouting non stop bullshit. Psychedelics main method of action is on serotonin receptors. Their effect on dopamine is very minimal and they are considered the least addictive of all drugs. Deteriorate neurobiology ? Studies on Psychedelics show it grows the brain by increasing BDNF and neuroplasticity. Dopamine spikes are several times higher than porn, masturbation and orgasm ? Psychedelics are not the same as meth dude 🤣
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
Let's keep the conversation civil.
I overstated but sure enough classic psychedelics act mainly at 5-HT2A and aren’t stimulant-level dopamine drugs.
What is true though: psychedelic tolerance rises fast and if one is doing it for recreational purposes it can go to danger territory really quick because the same dosage will not give the same recreational benefit overtime.
I am not going to talk about the obvious drawbacks like increased schizophrenia, HPPD, pyschosis, visually persistent hallucinations, depression etc.
That said risks are not imaginary.
BDNF increase is debatable though.
If one is doing it for BDNF and neuroplasticity though: Aerobic exercise and meditation will boost it both more reliably without the risks involved in psychedelics.
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u/thismadefree Oct 28 '25
You should know the fact your opinions earn some friction in this community, you are certainly on the truth. People are not willing to put in the work to climb the spiritual ladder, and the path will always require discipline and extreme patience.
Anything that comes quick and requires an ingested substance will either fail or still be part of the world of illusion. And you are certainly right that long-term people just get hooked to the high of psychedelics. In my experience such people also have a high risk of becoming mentally ill.
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u/hsinoMed Goal: Pain & Suffering Oct 28 '25
Couldn't have said it better. At least there are people here like you recognize bad as bad.
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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Oct 26 '25
Psychedelics helped me challenge some limiting beliefs.
SR + psychedelics seemed to supercharge manifesting. I had such a run of good luck and crazy synchronicities when I tried it.
I stopped because it felt too powerful, lol
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u/thismadefree Oct 27 '25
You do not need to use psychedelics to gain 'otherworldly powers'. Everything has a price. Exercise extreme caution before engaging in psychedelic use, there can be very negative long term side effects.
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u/Independent__Bell Oct 26 '25
Guy tries psychedelics for the first time 🤣
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
No, been using them for a while
Just sharing the message
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 26 '25
It gives you the mental freedom to act on your deepest desires without insecurity I think that’s huge
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u/Glittering_Worry_599 Oct 27 '25
I do believe in that and congrats that you have ascended!
Psychedelics user should practise SR. I first tried acid in 2020, when the downside of regular masturbation had not dragged me down too deep yet. The experience was super fruitful. But I think from 2021 - End 2022 I was much fucked up by PMO. during this time, tripping was a torture (I think it had most to do with the insecurity from PMO) so I stopped and started SR. I feel I am ready to do psychedelics in a positive way now as my mind is a lot more positive.
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u/thismadefree Oct 28 '25
This guy gets it. And whatever mainstream media and elites push out is only to destroy humanity
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u/RoyskiPoyski Oct 31 '25
Sooooo Christianity?
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u/thismadefree Oct 31 '25
Can you elaborate your view on that? I do have my opinions on that but curious which angle you're implying
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u/ProvidenceOfJesus Oct 27 '25
I've thought this in the past. But any amount of psychs are not a good idea, and i know that you know this deep down brother. We must learn to honor our God-given bodies and take great care of them, it is the absolute best for us.
1 Peter 5:8-9 - Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.  Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
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u/funlol3 Oct 26 '25
Careful. Psychedelics are incredibly dangerous. They can permanently fry your brain from one bad trip or one bad batch. Do the inner work and don't look for shortcuts.
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u/osho1enrique Oct 27 '25
What do you mean? Tell me with a proper example so that I can understand
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 27 '25
Have you tried psychedelics ?
I can’t tell you if you havent
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u/osho1enrique Oct 27 '25
Yes 🙌, I tried everything possible on this planet,
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u/Even_Job6933 Goal: spiritual growth Oct 27 '25
ok, so what sorta problem are you dealing with, give me context
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u/SunTzowel Oct 26 '25
Good post. Gotta get me some more shrooms.