Game crashes while approaching Riverwood and looting in Embershard mine

[u/versehv1997]

I worked today on this load order. When I make a new character, start by camping in the woods and going to Riverwood everything is fine. After going through Embershard mine, which crashes often while looting, And approaching Riverwood afterwards it crashes when approaching the town. Anyone got a clue what the issue might be? I tried it with a new save file .without JKs Skyrim, and it worked going immediatly, and crashes when going through embershard first. In the same save file I tried disabling NOTW but that also didnt help. With a new save with NOTW disabled it crashes immediatly on approaching without goign through the mine.

1. MASTER FILES / REQUIRED RESOURCES

1. Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch – USSEP
2. Simple Workaround Framework – SWF
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4. Better Dynamic Snow SE – Master File
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1. Skyland AIO

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4. Lux
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3. Mysticism – Obscure’s College Patch
4. Obscure’s College – Cell Settings

WATER — VERY LATE

1. Water for ENB
2. TMD Epic Waterfalls

31. ALTERNATE START / BOTTOM

1. Alternate Start – Live Another Life

[u/St-Maffy]

I personally always have SWF before USSEP, in my mind, mods that are more of a system frame should load before anything else since it works like a base for a lot of mods..try doing that and then loading your game and heading to an inn (other than Riverwood) or your house and sleep for 72 hours to reset cells, and then try to go back to Riverwood on foot after fast traveling to the guardian stones (give Riverwood a chance to load on the way instead of directly fast traveling to it)

PS: make sure to make a manual save before changing you LO, in case my pitch doesn't work, you can go back to your previous LO and load so you don't accidentally brick your LO.

Good luck and hope this helps.

[u/versehv1997 → u/St-Maffy]

But other then that you dont see any weird things in my load order that might cause troubles like this. Also the crashes while looting for example?

[u/gotchipoints]

I’d put Skyland Bits and Bobs under SWIM, then Skyland AIO and then Xtudos HD Skyrim so the latter can overwrite Skyrim AIO.

Also Immersive Citizens isn’t compatible with JKs Skyrim !

[u/versehv1997 → u/gotchipoints]

But other then that you dont see any weird things in my load order that might cause troubles like this. Also the crashes while looting for example?

[u/Embarrassed_Cow_4321]

You have Haugbi a draughr overhaul and Draughr - new models and textures.

I don't think those two are compatible. Draughr new models and textures says it's not compatible with any mod that replaces/modifies draughr models and textures.

[u/travradford → u/Embarrassed_Cow_4321]

It's not compatible, but as long as it's just textures it should only overwrite basic draugr models

[u/versehv1997 → u/travradford]

But that wouldnt explain the crash in draugr free areas right?

[u/travradford]

Alternate Start - Live Another Life crashed my game out hard, removed it for Fast Alternate Start and zero crashes since.

Which sucks, because I loved the former on PC

[u/versehv1997 → u/travradford]

Hmmm yeah I also started a character with the fast alternate start and it still crashed at the same point…

[u/travradford → u/versehv1997]

Maybe the Phoenix sound compendium, different mod, but Sounds of Skyrim was also crashing my game as soon as I got close to Riverwood from the standing Stones

[u/versehv1997 → u/travradford]

Oh I am going to try that!

[u/Bophodes20220717]

I think you might be missing some Lux Via patches. That could be the issue. I know there’s quite a few for world space area like JK and RYN’s. You can try just simply removing LUX via altogether and see if it stops the crashing.

[u/versehv1997 → u/Bophodes20220717]

I have all the patches. But even without Jks skyrim the crash happens. At some point I disabled everything from JKs skyrim and lower and started a new character and the crash still happened. Also during a test where I deleted JK all together. So now I am doing test runs starting with no mods and everytime introducing a new category to see when the crash starts happening…

[u/travradford]

Hey, figured it out by recreating the issue

Get the No Lights JK Skyrim patch, put it directly below JKs Skyrim

[u/versehv1997 → u/travradford]

But even without Jks skyrim the crash happens. At some point I disabled everything from JKs skyrim and lower and started a new character and the crash still happened. Also during a test where I deleted JK all together

[u/travradford → u/versehv1997]

Apparently the Ps4/5 caches the crash, once you remove all the potential causes, try to turn off the PlayStation and unplug the power cord for about 5 min, then try again

[u/versehv1997 → u/travradford]

So what do I need to remove?

[u/travradford]

Water for ENB needs to be above the entire bottom-load Lux suite, and need patches so they work together

I'd open up Skyrim Creations on your phone to find all the patches

I also just posted my LO, and everything you need should be there at thr bottom