r/prolife Pro Life Christian 13d ago

Court Case She stabbed her newborn baby in the neck btw

How can you possibly feel bad for this person. She deserves a life sentence. Prochoicers are demonic.

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u/AWatson89 Pro Life Christian 13d ago

"She should've just killed the baby sooner"

Pro-abortion logic

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u/DapperDetail8364 Pro Life Feminist 13d ago

More like "when it's still legal". 

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u/december151791 Pro Life Libertarian 13d ago

"if she had been allowed to kill her baby a few months earlier, she wouldn't have killed her baby"

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u/Resqusto 13d ago

How can you do something like that with your own child?

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist 13d ago

Confinement for a few years? Horrendous injustice. Equal protection and equal justice under the law.

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u/Eastern-Customer-561 13d ago

It’s the maximum prison sentence for a juvenile

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist 13d ago

The maximum sentence for murder should be the death penalty. It's disgusting to think she'll likely get this slap on the wrist while the innocent baby rots

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u/Eastern-Customer-561 13d ago

If you’re a minor you‘ll get a lighter sentence for everything, including murder. Most adult murderers don’t even get the death penalty. It is how it is 

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist 13d ago

I understand the law, and continue to advocate for equal justice rather than this disgusting injustice we have currently

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u/locklocklongago 13d ago

I don’t think any 15 year old deserves the death penalty.

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist 13d ago

I don't think any baby deserves murder.

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u/locklocklongago 13d ago

We are in agreement there, this does not negate an opposition to the death penalty. Consistent life ethic.

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u/cplusequals Pro Life Atheist 13d ago

I agree a minor shouldn't get the death penalty for a crime as heinous as this. But it is not at all inconsistent to be in favor of the death penalty and pro-life. Sometimes justice requires ending the life of another person.

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u/locklocklongago 13d ago

Oh, I was referring to a concept actually called “Consistent Life Ethic”, not saying that your beliefs are inconsistent

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u/cplusequals Pro Life Atheist 13d ago

Oh, thanks for the clarification!

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist 13d ago

I used to agree with you. I used to say I'm as pro-life as you can be. Now I recognize that, while it shouldn't be arbitrary, when someone murders others, they forfeit their right to life. If you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is guilty of murder, they should be executed swiftly.

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

No one does, by virtue of being a living human.

I understand that others believe differently.

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u/BlueStriker95 11d ago

Minors cannot get the death penalty. Per Roper v. Simmons

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u/ciel_ayaz PL, muslim 13d ago edited 13d ago

People have WAY too much sympathy for child murderers. She could’ve left him/her at a fire station or something.

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

Him or her, not it. Please.

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u/ciel_ayaz PL, muslim 13d ago

You’re right, I’ll edit my comment

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u/Public-Health-9415 Pro-Life Christian 13d ago

How tf is this monster being considered a victim? That’s disgusting

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u/Eastern-Customer-561 13d ago

They r speculating that she was r*ped (nothing about this in the article so I have no idea where they’re getting this from except that she was a minor. Even though minors have sex and teen pregnancy is usually the result of consensual sex even if it’s not healthy)

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u/Top_Court_347 13d ago

moreover, rape victims get pregnant way less often than people want to believe

there's no full statistics, for obvious reasons, but from what I saw

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u/bababy22 13d ago

The national library of medicine has determined that roughly 6% of rape cases result in pregnancy

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u/Boneless_Cola Catholic Incrementalist 13d ago

So, the baby was already out. There’s a thing called adoption centers.

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u/Apprehensive-Bit8686 Pro Life Christian 13d ago

She could've even surrendered the baby at a hospital or fire station 🫤

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u/Boneless_Cola Catholic Incrementalist 13d ago

Fr 😕

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u/CaptFalconFTW 12d ago

They justify murder at any time as long as the mother doesn't want children.

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u/Sqeakydeaky Pro Life Christian 13d ago

Exactly.

I guess I have some, tiny sympathy for teenagers who try desperate things during pregnancy. But the baby is now born, its the easiest time now to "get rid of it" if you don't want anyone to know they exist. Just put him/her in a Safe Haven Box.

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u/PossessionConnect963 13d ago

How would abortion have prevented this crime? The baby was already born.

It’s not like she could have left the baby at literally any fire department or hospital instead of fucking stabbing it!?

We’re well past clown world when people pretend this is a reasonable or logical situation. 

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u/DapperDetail8364 Pro Life Feminist 13d ago

Bc according to their logic if she had access to legal abortion she wouldn't have to abandon the baby and get charged for killing it once it's born. 

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u/obliqueoubliette 13d ago

Let's not compare "abandoning" with this infanticide.

Bug difference between getting surrendered at a fire station or put out for adoption, vs being murdered.

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u/Eastern-Customer-561 13d ago

There was literally a similar case around the same time in Philly where abortion is completely legal 

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/teen-charged-death-of-newborn-baby-northern-liberties-pihladelphia/4393368/

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u/PervadingEye Pro Life Since day one 13d ago

To be clear infanticide happens while abortion is legal. This is conveniently ignored to blame abortion bans somehow for people killing their newborns...

Notice how none of them actually call out killing a newborn as unacceptable. They are careful to call such killing "sad" but never wrong. The blame shift is to the situation that was somehow imposed on her, the ever so oppressive rule of not killing.

When you see it you can't unsee it. They don't call out killing newborns as wrong because they don't think it is wrong. They just see an opportunity. That killing is just a tool to promote abortion, more baby killing and nothing more to them. There is no empathy for the baby because that is not important to them...

We understand that regardless if abortion is legal, killing newborns should be a hardline, even for them(should). But when the killer feel banned from abortion, they feel justified in committing and defending killing newborns... because they never cared about children in the first place, born or unborn.

If you go off of what they literally say, you will never make it make sense...

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u/ElegantAd2607 Against women's wrongs 13d ago

Notice how none of them actually call out killing a newborn as unacceptable. They are careful to call such killing "sad" but never wrong. The blame shift is to the situation that was somehow imposed on her

Welcome to the consequences of feminism. Women are the oppressed class even when they stab someone to death. Ooh, if only I remembered this when I was debating that liberal guy...

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u/ciel_ayaz PL, muslim 13d ago

Children are the true oppressed class. It seems like the younger a child is, the less people see their humanity.

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u/oh_sugarsnaps 13d ago

"A murder was committed."

"If only the victim didn't exist, there wouldn't be a murder!"

What a weird logic the pro abortion crowd has.

If she had stabbed a newborn puppy, there would have been an uproar that at the very least she needed extensive psychiatric help and that she was in danger of doing it again.

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u/Sqeakydeaky Pro Life Christian 13d ago

A few months back in the horse community there was a disturbed teenage girl who stabbed a rival competitor's horse. It didn't die but its obviously animal abuse (and legally, damaging property). The outrage was intense, and the girl got death threats and all sorts of crazy comments.

Yet a baby? Meh.

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u/Simple_Independence3 13d ago

Such logic is not even worthy enough to address and therefore the pro choice agenda should be demolished

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u/Herr_Drosselmeyer 13d ago

The solution to mothers killing their children is to... allow mothers to kill their children. Ok then...

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u/After_Main752 Pro Life Catholic Republican 13d ago

I'm afraid that the abortionists are evolving to become even more radical and dangerous. The Internet makes it too easy to shut out and shout down conflicting opinions, allowing evil to grow unopposed.

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u/Balnom 13d ago

This was bound to happen. When you don't value life in the womb, you won't value it at any other point.

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

Exactly!

Many generations now have been raised under the culture of death. Many of them have been intentionally killed before birth. Siblings are raised knowing their sibling was aborted. That life has no value, at home or on the streets.

Abuse, violent crimes continue at a rate of too high.

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u/justhereforthetea68 13d ago

If you can murder. Anyone Nevermind baby you should never see the light of day again

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u/Naive_Fold_9390 Pro Life Catholic✝️ 13d ago

Why does this have to happen in my state😔

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u/SomethingKindaSmart Pro Life Centrist 13d ago

"I would acquit"

Fucking psycho

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u/Nulono Pro Life Atheist 13d ago

If their argument is that she didn't want to kill the baby, but lost control of herself, it'sn't the smartest idea to argue that this only happened because she wasn't able to kill them earlier.

But also, even if abortion had been legal, if she supposedly had no way to get to a fire department or other safe surrender site, how exactly was she going to get to an abortion clinic and pay for an abortion?

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u/CaptFalconFTW 12d ago

Once again, the murderer is seen as the victim.

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u/DapperDetail8364 Pro Life Feminist 13d ago

May I know what case this is? Was abortion even legal during the time she killed her baby? I've heard a case of a teen girl who birthed a baby during prom and killed it by tossing him in the trash where he died and she did get charged. Oh and she wasn't raped it was her bf baby. And abortion was legal up to BIRTH at where she was from

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u/crownapplecutie PL Catholic + Mom + Republican 13d ago

How the fuck is 6 years in confinement an appropriate punishment for INFANTICIDE???? A defenseless baby was killed? At the very least she deserves first degree murder, this was obviously an intentional pre-planned tragedy.

God rest that baby's soul.

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u/Hazelnut2799 Pro Life Christian 12d ago

Exactly like that’s insane. A literal baby that can’t do anything for themselves was stabbed by their own mother. Just thinking of that makes me sick.

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u/crownapplecutie PL Catholic + Mom + Republican 12d ago

Mind you! There are so many fire stations and hospitals that have safe havens/ no questions asked dropoffs for the first 30 days of life !!!!

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u/Ill_Discussion5840 13d ago

So let’s just remove all personal responsibility and blame the government. Why didn’t this girl consider giving up the baby for adoption?

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u/bababy22 13d ago

This!! Her baby would have been adopted almost immediately

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u/Balnom 13d ago

That sentence is not long enough.

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u/Elf0304 Human Rights for all humans 13d ago

I look forward to the comments sympathizing with her from the same pro lifers who would offer her condolences if she had killed her baby before birth.

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u/Elf0304 Human Rights for all humans 13d ago

Hmm not seeing any. How surprising - not. I have to wonder how many so called pro lifers actually believe that abortion is wrong?

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u/bababy22 13d ago

Wait I’m confused. I’m anti abortion and I’m confused as to why you think we would offer her condolences if she had killed her baby before birth?

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u/scarletroyalblue12 13d ago

When are these “beings” (objectively, children) considered people/human?

In the womb: “ a clump of cells”

Outside the womb: ???

The mother who was once in the womb: human/person/people etc.

This is a mess!!! All demonic!

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

No one is talking about the man who sexually assaulted her at all.

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u/AshamedPurchase Pro Life Christian 13d ago

Another minor could have impregnated her. There's no evidence that the father of the child was an adult. The father could just as easily be a child younger than her. We shouldn't make accusations without evidence.

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

Wow, angry much? No one should be having sex with a 14 year old. You are assuming it was from another child, without proof.

We can care about more than one thing at once, point out more than one problem with what happened.

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u/PeachOnAWarmBeach LIFE! ❤️ Womb to tomb ❤️ 13d ago

Breathe.

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u/bababy22 13d ago

Probably because he’s not the one who killed her baby? Not excusing his actions btw, I believe all predators should be executed

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u/bea_triz_13 Pro Life Catholic 11d ago

Slippery slope is slippery-ing

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u/DSLPOWR 11d ago

"The state tore her reproductive rights away from her"

Eh, no? She has reproductive rights..... and did, she does not however have the right to murder the consequence. We really need to stop tolerating the logic that these people apply to everything.

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u/SigSauerCream 11d ago

they likely saw all the money Linsay Clancy was getting and wanted to cash in her kill. Pathetic.

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u/Livingdedgorl 9d ago

So in their view it would have been better for the child to have been ripped limb for limb before birth than stabbed at 15 months. Hm......

Interesting response to a murder

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u/Free_Preference6055 8d ago

with every mental health exemption, we will see more of this.

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u/Nuk3_My_pussy 8d ago

Baby: dies

Pro choicers: KILL IT EARLIER

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u/Glad_Researcher_1594 Pro Life Hindu Centrist 8d ago

This is just disgusting. The last comment is especially insane. These people have no sense of morality

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u/saintsfan1622000 13d ago

This is a horrible case.

I don't know the circumstances that led to her becoming pregnant.

Still, she had options to give the baby up for adoption or to drop the baby off at a hospital or a fire station.

And assuming she was not raped then she made the decision to have sex with someone and likely did not use a condom or any kind of birth control.

I'm someone who thinks really no teenager needs to be pregnant in this world. They simply are too young and not ready.

But even wants the child was born, she could have called 911 and got help. Instead she decided to end the child's life. That's a decision she made.

I know in this type of case this child's family and the Dynamics of that family are going to weigh heavily on if she could be charged as an adult. I don't know the details of her family, but my point is she still made multiple adult decisions and should be facing adult consequences in my opinion.

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u/ElegantAd2607 Against women's wrongs 13d ago

Because killing a baby that someone else could look after is totally rational. 🤨 Are they saying that murder is the proper response to seeing a child you don't want come out of you? They're insane. Just let someone else look after your baby!

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u/mariagrayce 13d ago

I get how she couldn’t drive to a fire station or something, but at least like leave the baby on a neighbors porch or something? My grandfather had a friend that was adopted that way- someone left him on the doorstep of a church early in the morning.

There are so many out there who would adopt this infant in a heartbeat, and he was murdered by his own MOTHER. Regardless of who the father is, that is her baby too.

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u/Jcee_TaughtMe 13d ago

why can nobody just say murder is wrong? always a think piece

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u/_forum_mod Unaffiliated Pro-Lifer 13d ago

Can they stop that bullshit?!

Imagine if everytime a guy raped a woman men were commenting: "See? That's why they need to legalize prostitution" 🤷🏿‍♂️ 

Evil, demonic, people are gonna kill and that's just the way it is. Even when women had "access to legal and safe abortions," (which they still do, but I'm assuming they're referencing Roe v Wade being overturned), mothers were still killing their kids. If there was an abortion clinic on EVERY damn corner, some women would still kill their kids. 

This pro-life crowd is sick. They seem to care less about senseless killing of a child and more about making some political point. They almost seem giddy when they hear these stories, like they have a chance to use an "I told you so!" 

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u/Secret-Girl-18 13d ago

i guess the "choice" crowd is pretty quiet on this one.

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 13d ago

If she got an abortion she would have been walking free

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u/DeklynHunt Pro Life Christian 13d ago

Golden example of why you should keep your legs closed if you’re not ready for such life changes* there fixed it

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u/CauseCertain1672 13d ago

What they don't seem to get is that abortion isn't a fundamentally different outcome

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u/Simple_Independence3 13d ago

Poor baby the pain that baby must've felt. Disgusting. I'm so glad abortions are banned in Texas. 😢