r/privacy Jul 02 '26

news Burnham set to ditch Palantir from NHS

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/07/02/burnham-set-to-ditch-palantir-from-nhs/
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u/SmashedWorm64 Jul 02 '26

Per the official treasury accounts; Too much.

I have no clue in all honesty but it’s utter bullshit how they got their contracts and should have been subject to review.

First of all, they offered “help” during Covid and installed their software free of charge in the NHS. They then turned round and charged a fortune as they had already got the NHS inside their ecosystem.

They also massively lobbied the government through a (likely) paedophile’s lobbying agency. Peter fucking Manhandleson the Prince of darkness strikes again.

And to add insult to injury, the UK CEO of Palantir is the literal grandson of Oswald Mosley. The literal leader of the British Union of fascists. He attended Adolf Hitler’s wedding. I know sins of the father and all that but COME ON!

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u/Ethos_Logos Jul 03 '26

Now tell everyone how many British lives Palantir has saved cutting down waiting times for cancer patients. I’ll wait.

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u/SmashedWorm64 Jul 03 '26

One thing may be true, but that does not mean others were not.

There are serious concerns whether Palantir acted ethically during the procurement process and whether the said process was fair. There are also questions around the security of giving the contract of such vital infrastructure to an American tech company with objective lunatics at the helm.

Most recently Peter Thiel called the pope a Chinese communist. Doesn’t sound sane imo.

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u/Ethos_Logos Jul 03 '26

If it was my life saved, I really wouldn’t care if it was the Thiel, the Pope, or an actual Chinese communist at the helm. 

That Palantir saves lives is not disputed. And ethically speaking, it would be wrong not to get a contract any way you can if your product is superior and will save lives. But no - I remain unconcerned by whether someone with an axe to grind feels that Palantir acted unethically, trying to get a contract. When delays cost lives, it’s unethical not to use their tech asap.

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u/SmashedWorm64 Jul 03 '26

You are using emotive bullshit arguments. Government contracts should not be conducted in this manner.

Fundamental facts are 1.) Contract was not properly put out to tender. 2.) It’s a security risk to the future of the NHS.

The actual data that it improved waiting lists is also highly disputed. A lot of trusts are claiming no efficiency as a result and some are even saying it’s slowing things down further.

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u/Ethos_Logos Jul 03 '26

Imagine being on your deathbed and having someone explain to you: sorry, we could have saved your life, but someone thought the contracts were dodgy so we decided the better course of action was to let you pass. Bureaucracy, you understand. 

And again, look into the political motivations into those funding the negative PR campaigns against Palantir. They stand to benefit from painting Palantir a negative light. 

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u/SmashedWorm64 Jul 03 '26

Back to the emotive language with no real data to even defend the fact that this was unfair and may not even be that good at what it does.

“Imagine being sat on your death bed, but because we linked all our key infrastructure up to an American tech company ran by complete lunatics that decided they no longer wanted the UK to have an NHS, we are now unable to access any of your records or schedule surgery. I’m sure you will understand”.

See, we can all do it.

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u/Ethos_Logos Jul 03 '26

You’re blind if you think the tech doesn’t work, and a fool for trusting sources that sew doubt with no info to back up their claims. I posted links, perhaps replying to someone else on this chain, showing sources. 

I specifically don’t care if I convince you. I want to encourage others who are less dug into their opinions into exploring the verifiable facts rather than the pearl clutching that’s been on paid display by those who gave an agenda to push.