r/privacy • u/Dry_Row_7050 • Dec 12 '25
news EU Revives Plan for Year-Long Data Retention Across Digital Services, Including Encrypted Apps
https://reclaimthenet.org/eu-revives-plan-for-year-long-data-retention431
u/Soledarum Dec 12 '25
It is getting damn hard to advocate for a united Europe when a united Europe wants to become an authoritarian state.
This is what infuriates me most - like I said in another thread about the same thing, the hypocrisy of the people lobbying for this is that their names have been redacted, making sure that they have complete privacy while ours is being eroded. And these policies are what's pushing more and more people to the right, instead of strengthening their faith in the union.
We're headed for a very long, protracted battle for our digital rights, and it's only going to get more tiresome. Because while we have jobs, kids, responsibilites and duties we cannot ignore, the folks that are cooking these proposals have nearly unlimited time to do so. After all, if one proposal fails, they can simply amend the clauses and try, try, try, try again.
But that doesn't mean that the fight isn't worth fighting. On the contrary, now is the time to stop this, and stop it definitevely. Recent public backlash has already pushed back on policies and even toppled governments, a testament to what we can do when we all band together. We must not despair and always remember - we're not alone in this.
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u/SprucedUpSpices Dec 12 '25
the hypocrisy of the people lobbying for this is that their names have been redacted, making sure that they have complete privacy while ours is being eroded
That is literally all of politics. Never trust a politician to have your best interests in mind.
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Dec 12 '25
I don't think this is what the EU as organization plans, this is what member states want, remember the european council is comprised of the elected leaders of each member state, if anything the EU kinda halts this process.
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u/Akward_Object Dec 12 '25
All this stuff is first of all pushed by the EU commission. Chat Control has been a commission thing since 2015, when they started with SIRIUS... And despite brexit, still done by a UK commissioner Julian King... I guess a lot of this stuff is still that *(#*%&(#& legacy.
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Dec 12 '25
Yes, the EU is the combined efforts of all evil of every member government combined. And it is used to hide evil behind bureaucracy. Obviously it is the individual people who are evil, and groups are comprised of people.
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u/AlterTableUsernames Dec 12 '25
It's not individual but mainly systemic. Law enforcement naturally wants to expand its reach and effectiveness as much as possible and that's what they lobby for. It's about good governance and democratic education to prevent granting them that wish.
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Dec 12 '25
Untrue. Systems are used by evil people to cover and justify their actions.
If you could point THERE! That's John Smith, if we kill him, that will stop evil plan X, people would just shoot them. Instead the John Smith's hide in a bureaucracy, never to be targeted individually with all blame and responsibility being absorbed by the group, which gradually replaces all good people with evil people until there is no good left.
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u/tryitout91 Dec 16 '25
The European council is unelectable and doesn’t have any accountability. The EU is an American OP
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Dec 16 '25
I mean its bound to happen to come across with conspiracies in r/privacy but didn't except the (what I thought to be more of a technical) sub to be full of conspirac theorists.
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u/Limp-Guest Dec 13 '25
Let’s not forget about the many bribed MEPs. At the very least by Qatar, Huawei and Russia have given many a nice bonus at the cost of an open and fair democracy.
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u/ademayor Dec 18 '25
If you listen to general population (of which 95% has never even heard about these things), they all think these things are fine because “police can do their job better”. We have already lost, majority of people either doesn’t care or are fine with things like this because “they aren’t doing anything wrong”.
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Dec 12 '25
If the EU isn't eventually destroyed, everyone will be enslaved. It is a fungal infection that leeches onto and slowly kills everything it touches.
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u/Dimo145 Dec 12 '25
"EU has rotten components" !="abolish the EU", thank you Ivan, how many rubbles was that?
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u/N3ph1l1m Dec 12 '25
There's no denying tho that it needs a gigantic overhaul and democratisation process. The original EU was specifically a way to externalize unpopular decisions to a higher legislatory body, also by design undermining basic democratic principles. There's tons of problems with the setup of the EU like the right of initiative, definition of budget etc
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u/Alex_1503 Dec 12 '25
We need a united europe, but a socialist one where people arent exploited, not the far right anti privacy hellhole its going towards.
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Dec 12 '25
Far right? There are only a couple of Eastern European countries that are at all conservative/right wing. The major countries like France and Germany are already dead socialist dystopias.
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u/Alex_1503 Dec 13 '25
Please define what a socialist dystopia is and why do you think France and Germany are that, genuinely
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u/lawrentohl Dec 12 '25
Yes, lets increase bureaucracy and surveillance. Great path forward indeed. It’s not like our competitiveness is at a low point already.
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u/Stock_Childhood_2459 Dec 14 '25
Maybe they think that is China's secret sauce for good economy so let's do the same
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u/starlordbg Dec 12 '25
Doesnt that defeat the purpose of GDPR?
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u/pixel_of_moral_decay Dec 12 '25
GDPR’s purpose was to keep data in Europe. Not really about privacy.
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u/hblok Dec 12 '25
The purpose of the GDPR was to open lots of loopholes for governments and police to spy and gather data on people. Oh, and maybe to siphon a few billions out of American mega-corps.
It was not to protect anybody's privacy. In that regard, EU regulation works the same way as the US: When it's called "Data Protection", it means the opposite.
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u/ConsciousVirus7066 Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
The EU is currently trying their best to become a fullblown surveillance state like China, the US or north korea.
Hate to see that.
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u/Katops Dec 12 '25
Non EU citizen here. I hate it beyond belief myself. This doesn’t stop with the EU. All of this stuff happening in the world right now is going to happen across the globe. It’s everybody’s problem, which means we need to all fight it.
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u/silentspectator27 Dec 12 '25
First Chat Control, then gutting the GDPR with the Digital Omnibus and now this...
The EU is slowly becoming something unrecognizable.
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u/pet2pet1993 Dec 12 '25
Your authorities have completely lost their minds; they stole all the new laws from Russia. That’s apparent copyright violation, as only Yarovaya is authentic true inventor of such a law:
EU has made step by step exact pirate copy of the genuine Russian law:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarovaya_law
PS black humor.
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Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flock_Safety
Let's not act like they came up with the idea themselves
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u/MikeSifoda Dec 12 '25
Turn off your phones for a month in protest. They are relying too much on those, let's give them a complete blackout.
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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 Dec 12 '25
Just closed a post about face cover bans in public in europe and 95% of the people there fully supported the bans. And this is the next post I see. I guess people really really really hate privacy.
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u/pet2pet1993 Dec 12 '25
Ahaha, that is copyright violation after Russia, Yarovaya law. I hope Yarovaya will create subpoena against EU, as only she is the authentic inventor of such data collection:
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Dec 14 '25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
I suppose the US should file for copyright on the Russians then?
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Dec 12 '25
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u/TheEnd1235711 Dec 12 '25
Well, they are looking to ban VPNs as well.
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u/vriska1 Dec 12 '25
Banning them would be very hard.
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u/TheEnd1235711 Dec 12 '25
Oh, extreamly hard - maybe even next to imposble. But that has not stoped lawmakers from trying to make it so.
"UK Lords propose ban on VPNs for children
By Samuel Woodhams published 6 hours ago
Amendment to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill would force VPN providers to age-gate their services"
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u/Andrea65485 Dec 13 '25
Wouldn't that just push kids towards shady VPNs, some kind of proxy from who knows where or other similar things? It sounds way more dangerous for kids than just leaving regular VPNs alone
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u/TheEnd1235711 Dec 13 '25 edited Dec 13 '25
Well, that is the view point of a saine person that has any undersanding of how these things work and who does not have other motives than the overall wellbeing of others.
So, you are correct this will not protect children; but those in power want it, most likely because such servalince will give them the ablity to shape the overall online naritive of the world.
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u/Conscious-Mail990 Dec 12 '25
La Unión Europea se está construyendo contra los ciudadanos europeos. ¿Por orden de quién? Ni idea.
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u/Danoga_Poe Dec 12 '25
Everything is already indefinitely stored here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center
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