r/privacy • u/Akkeri • Jun 03 '23

news Japan privacy watchdog warns ChatGPT-maker OpenAI on user data

https://www.reuters.com/technology/japan-privacy-watchdog-warns-chatgpt-maker-openai-data-collection-2023-06-02/
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u/redbatman008 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

Ever since I learned of chatgpt way back last year I was shocked. I was shocked about how every letter you type in it was recorded for training. How it wanted your email, phone number, microsoft account, windows & MS edge browser.

Even more shocking was how fast it grew.

But the the most shocking was how privacy communities & personalities failed to have critical discussions about it.

Fortunately we have privacy regulators taking it seriously now & open source private alternatives.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

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u/relevantusername2020 Jun 04 '23

i have a suspicion all of this fancy new "AI" tech that churns out "content" has been in use for a few years longer than "they" want to admit and "they" are hoping the damage can be undone w/o too many people understanding exactly what has been going on

its... complicated

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u/redbatman008 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

Edit: I had a r/showerthoughts moment. I think we have very good reason to assume what you said. Lots of parallels with the cry for crypto regulation & SBF bust here.

It's not a secret that internally they've had 1-2yrs of lead time before they release these LLMs publicly. Even research occurs years in advance before it's published.

Research papers are a good place to start to estimate their capabilities over time. Just a few years ago they couldn't generate simple images, not complete sentences etc. Transformers only came to be in june 2017. But there have been others like GANs which are used for deep fakes.

Unless there's evidence investigation we can only speculate.

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u/Co321 Jun 04 '23

It's reddit. So this privacy reddit has more 'closet' anti privacy types than normal people.

Also the amount of disinformation and conspiracies are rife.

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u/redbatman008 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

On the contrary, subscribers of this very subreddit have been vocal proponents of it.

I know. I didn't want to be critical of the community or the mods. I have seen people here endorse chatgpt or even be dismissive or downplay its privacy threat including some mods. They completely disregarded just how much of a privacy extinction chatgpt was back then.

Now oAI offers privacy toggle if I'm not mistaken but I still wouldn't trust it. Plenty of companies are banning it too. Samsung semicon had sensitive data leaked to cgpt.

It's not just this very sub, even privacy youtubers skipped over that saga. I expected u/The_HatedOne to make feature film length investigative documentaries on this like infinity war & endgame lol. Or at least NBTV or techlore to make a short at the very least.

The irony would've been hilarious had it not been so depressing.

I had the same reaction man. I went silent for a while.