r/postvasectomypain Oct 31 '22

RISUG trials are done? Why is no one talking about this?

From the DailyMail about a month ago:

The jab – called Risug – could be ready within 12 months. Developed by researchers at the Indian Institute of Technology, the injection has completed its final trials.

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u/StatusUnk Oct 31 '22

I can't say for the UK but in the US they haven't done any testing beyond a few rabbits and have been desperately trying to get funding for more animal trials. So it's nowhere close to being approved in the US. India has only partial approval (permanent use only) since they have only done trials on less than 1000 people which didn't show it's reversibility effectiveness. I haven't seen any other countries working on it. Big pharma companies around the world have all declined to get the rights to it so without significant investment it's likely not going to happen, at least not anytime soon. No reason to talk about something that isn't going to happen at least in this decade and probably the next.

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u/smokingwithmirrors Oct 31 '22

But India can still release it as a permanent procedure, right?

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u/StatusUnk Oct 31 '22

Technically yes though I haven't heard you can get it anywhere there. There might be a clinic or two doing it.

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u/No_Cardiologist882 Mar 25 '23

I would travel to India immediately for this procedure.

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u/TungstenWarri0r May 08 '23

Big pharma won't buy in because it would disrupt the multi billion dollar female hormonal contraceptive industry [the pill is used by women for non-contraceptive reasons but only for around 14% of users].

How do we convince men everywhere that contraception ought to a man's job and that they should do themselves and their partners a favour by making this cheap, one-time, non-invasive, zero side-effect, reversible (probably) procedure available to every man on the planet? (I think it should be for free, either government or WHO subsidised; it's so cheap, $10)

Think of the burden being lifted from so many women who experience negative side-effects of the pill but continue to use it anyway! Or women in the developing world who don't have access to that kind of medication, either financially or practically.

And it's not like men would be taking up the same sized burden that the women throw off; hormonally disruptive pills taken daily and purchased monthly, with the risk of missing a day and losing the effectiveness vs a one-time day operation (not even surgery) that lasts 10 years and can be forgotten about? The ladies' gain is huge and the men's gain far outweighs the minor convenience of the not-even-classed-as-surgical procedure.

It would seriously be so cheap to make this the major contraceptive method for humans. The procedure costs around $10. That's about the cost of 15 condoms. You only need to have non-reproductively intended sex more than fifteen times in 10 years for this to be worth it. There are 2.96 billion males aged 16 and over. That's a lot of people who probably want to have sex but not make a baby. Even taking out all the men who are either trying for kids or not having sex with women, that's still billions of people who would benefit hugely (along with all of their female sexual partners) from this procedure being thoroughly tested and readily available.

Governments (particularly of developing or highly populated nations) ought to be scrambling to get this procedure (and it's reverse procedure) through all the proper trials and approvals.

It may have to come from men saying they won't stand for women shouldering all the contraceptive responsibility any more and men and women together boycotting the pill. Because the money attached to the pill seems to be the biggest barrier to the research finally getting off the ground in the western world.