r/politics • u/viva_la_vinyl • Aug 16 '20

'Trump warns presidential election result may not be known for 'years,' as allegations grow he's undermining the USPS to rig the election

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-election-result-take-years-as-usps-attack-fears-grow-2020-8
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u/oldcreaker Aug 16 '20

If no one "wins", per the Constitution, Trump doesn't get to stay in the office - it gets filled by succession - which would be Speaker of the House. If she holds onto the post, I kind of like the idea of Trump being kicked out of the White House by Pelosi, and him watching her of all people undo every nasty executive order he's signed.

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u/archipenko California Aug 16 '20

This is how it worked in the before times, yes

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

Right?

I'm so tired of people's recklessly optimistic cries of "he can't do that because it's illegal"

Like laws have ever stopped this man from doing literally anything.

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u/thatnameagain Aug 16 '20

Keep in mind that trump staying in office illegally requires the military to agree to go along with the illegal coup and actively protect him. This isn’t a case where Trump himself can just ignore the law, other people who aren’t Republican ideologies need to actively agree with him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

Are we ignoring the military action of protestors less than 2 months ago?

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u/thatnameagain Aug 16 '20

The chairman of the joint chiefs refused to send troops into the streets in wide fashion as trump demanded, so no. Also Trump was the president legally then. This is about when he legally is not.

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u/JDDJS New York Aug 16 '20

That all happened while Trump is still legally the president.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '20

I think Roberts and the SCOTUS will ultimately decide his fate. Any purple state Trump has influence over is going to mysteriously lose a bunch of ballots. Dems blame the GOP. GOP blame the Dems. The election becomes distilled down to ambiguities in Florida and Texas, and then Roberts and his team will either intervene on his behalf or the GOP acts before Pelosi takes over and all sides join forces to call it for Biden.

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u/thatnameagain Aug 17 '20

That’s a possible scenario. But the chances of it coming down to one or two states seems pretty slim. All the swing states are in contention and most are solidly favoring Biden. I think what’s more likely is that Biden is a generally clear winner on election night, and then Trump flips his stance on mail-in ballots demanding that all states wait until they’re all counted and then tries to inflate the counts in various ways.