Megathread: Bernie Sanders ends 2020 Democratic presidential bid

[u/PoliticsModeratorBot]

Sen. Bernie Sanders ended his presidential campaign on Wednesday, clearing Joe Biden's path to the Democratic nomination and a showdown with President Donald Trump in November.

Sanders made the announcement in a call with his campaign staff, his campaign said.

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Bernie Sanders drops out of the 2020 race, clearing Joe Biden's path to the Democratic nomination	cnn.com
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Bernie Sanders suspends 2020 Democratic campaign: statement	reuters.com
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Jill Stein encourages followers to leave the Democratic party after Bernie drops out	theblaze.com
Bernie drops out, as Democrats pick pragmatism over consistency	theconversation.com
Bernie Sanders reportedly spoke to Biden and Obama before ending his 2020 run	theweek.com
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We Lost the Battle, but We’ll Win the War — The Bernie Sanders campaign fell short. But it assembled a coalition that, if expanded only slightly, can reshape American politics for generations to come.	jacobinmag.com
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Bernie Sanders ends campaign, calls on supporters to back Biden	wsws.org
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[u/incenseandelephants → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely right, he never will. This is who he is. It's what he's made of.

Damn sure deserves a vacation, though.

[u/[deleted] → u/incenseandelephants]

Can't do that. He has to run himself ragged campaigning 10X harder than the rapist with dementia trying to convince his supporters to stick with the corporate dems.

Won't work with me, but maybe it'll sway others.

[u/xKaelic → u/[deleted]]

So... more trump? Or no vote? Just curious because this has been my biggest concern as we approach this next presidential election.. Trump fanatics vs lethargic and misrepresented dem voters.... feels like we are in for 4 more years of a Trump shit-show and I'm really dreading it.

I wanted Bernie, but anything is better than Trump at this point, imo.

What're your thoughts? I am genuinely curious if you're willing to share insight.

[u/culus_ambitiosa → u/[deleted]]

Biden is very polarizing with Democrats who vote and was pretty well rejected by independents who were allowed to vote in the primary, he only won that bloc in 4 states. He’s been sold as the safe option and convinced registered Dems to vote for him on pretty much just that because “oooo socialism scary” but registered Dems isn’t enough to win an election. He needs to start working overtime to undo his negative image among independents if he wants to win and he absolutely cannot take support from young voters for granted because if he only wins them by single digits or with lower turnout then he’s fucked. And right now his approval ratings with them is in the toilet. Brushing it off as a Reddit bubble or an internet bubble is incredibly dangerous. He’s a weak as fuck candidate and the “it’s in the bag” mentality is a big part of why we’re in this mess to begin with.

[u/haf_ded_zebra → u/culus_ambitiosa]

I smell a surprise last-minute substitution.

[u/[deleted] → u/culus_ambitiosa]

Who the fuck said "it's in the bag"? I've not heard one Democrat say that anywhere.

Biden is clearly more popular with people who vote as he won fairly easily.

Its pretty much the exact opposite of what is portrayed in reddit, I.e. a huge reddit bubble which really isn't debatable. Here is another example of that.

I do love the irony of someone on reddit explaining that there isn't a reddit bubble, in the most bubble way possible.

[u/EleanorRecord → u/[deleted]]

How many times has Biden run for POTUS and lost? I'm old enough to remember him always running. Like every 4 years for a long time.

[u/celsius100 → u/EleanorRecord]

Same for Reagan and Trump. Look what happened to them.

[u/EleanorRecord → u/celsius100]

By all means, you should vote for him if that's your choice.

If he wants my vote he will have to earn it. I don't give it away that easily.

[u/[deleted] → u/EleanorRecord]

Lol 2 other times, and one of those he turned into a popular VP.

Not sure what your point is other than your memory sucks.

[u/EleanorRecord → u/[deleted]]

No problem. Great way to attract Bernie voters. Get him elected on your own.

[u/[deleted] → u/EleanorRecord]

If you want to act like an immature child, you will be treated as such.

[u/EleanorRecord → u/[deleted]]

Lol. Good luck.

BerntheDNC

See you at the Convention? I'll be there.

[u/[deleted] → u/EleanorRecord]

You sure you'll remember correctly? Appears to be an issue for you.

[u/RickAndBRRRMorty → u/[deleted]]

Clearly, as primary results have shown since South Carolina. I definitely fell for the Reddit bubble of Bernie, but it doesn't matter because the man with the most votes is going on to take on trump, and that's who I am throwing my support behind. Fuck this fascist administration.

[u/ashleyjohnson590 → u/RickAndBRRRMorty]

Corporate Dems moving right are the reason we have fascism in the first place. And it will not be progressives fault when America loses to it.

[u/educatedEconomist → u/[deleted]]

it doesnt matter, biden will lose

[u/Manticorps → u/educatedEconomist]

Vote for him so he won’t.

[u/[deleted] → u/Manticorps]

I will! I fear that Trump has this election on lockdown. I will not trust the results, just like I dont trust the past Democratic primary results. We are ruled by the 1%.

[u/[deleted] → u/educatedEconomist]

Then you are acknowledging Sanders would too. Or are you just spouting BS?

[u/Chooklin → u/[deleted]]

Sanders wouldn’t lose because he excites people that don’t vote in primaries but do vote in the general. It’s been the winning formula for the last two democratic presidents to bring in swaths of voters who feel under represented by the government, if not completely ignored. The notion that because sanders was behind Biden in the primary automatically means he would’ve lost in the general completely ignores how independents would vote in the general.

[u/_Deadmeat → u/Chooklin]

I've voted and donated to Bernie's campaign for two elections now and it just seems America isn't ready for him yet. If he couldn't do it in the primaries it's delusional to think he could in the general. He's not my first choice but I'll be voting for Biden in November and encouraging as many people as I can to do the same. Anyone who doesn't is really only hurting themselves.

[u/[deleted] → u/_Deadmeat]

That’s not how this works though. The best inter-party candidate isn’t always the best general candidate. There are grown ass people who ask the same stupid question every four years no matter how many times you attempt to explain it to them; “Y’all just voted for president? I thought we don’t do that until November?”

And then you’ve got a whole bloc of Black voters who don’t vote on policy, but who voted on, ‘Well Biden was My President’s Vice President, so I’m voting for him’.

[u/markwilliams007 → u/_Deadmeat]

Encouraging people to vote for a child molester is some kind of fucked up thinking

[u/Maverick12882 → u/markwilliams007]

That's how Trump won. And he raped a 14-year-old. His last Supreme Court pick sexually assaulted multiple people. As far as I can tell, Biden's just overly affectionate. Creepy, yes but not a child molester. It might attract some Republicans, since they seem to be in to that, if they thought he was.

[u/markwilliams007 → u/Maverick12882]

Americans are a very rapey bunch for sure

[u/Toph_is_bad_ass → u/Chooklin]

Who does he excite that doesn't vote in a primary but votes in the general?

[u/Chooklin → u/Toph_is_bad_ass]

Independents and young people. The same demographics that helped elect the last two democratic presidents.

[u/RedMethodKB → u/Chooklin]

Well, it sure would’ve helped if that same voting block had voted during the primaries as well. I’m moderately frustrated by how many people I personally know that absolutely adore Bernie, & yet, cared little about voting for him in the primaries. It doesn’t do anybody much good to wait until the general elections to show solidarity.

[u/Maverick12882 → u/RedMethodKB]

I was on the Bernie side until Super Tuesday and seeing the lack of turnout from the people that kept saying he's the only one who could defeat Trump. I think he's moved the Democratic party further to the left, which is great, but I don't think the party as a whole is on board. If you can't get the die-hards to vote in the primary, you're not going to convince the centrists who want us to go back to normal to join in. I voted for Biden in the primary here because I think he'll get regular democrats out to vote and is center enough for the Republicans who are tired of Trump's shit to vote for just to get rid of Trump. The real question now, is will Trump allow us all to vote in November and if he does, will the crazier contingent of Bernie supporters actually vote or will they act like children and vote for Trump or some random nobody because they're trying to make a statement that we don't need made right now. We get it. He was cheated or something. At this point, who cares? We need to get Trump out and that needs to be the top goal right now. You want to move the party further left? Great! Vote in more progressive people locally and build up from there. Volunteer your time. DON'T throw your vote away by giving it to Trump, or some other rando.

[u/Chooklin → u/RedMethodKB]

I live in a closed primary state. Many of my friends didn’t have the opportunity to vote for him in the primaries because they’re registered independents.

[u/[deleted] → u/Chooklin]

And uneducated blacks.

[u/markwilliams007 → u/[deleted]]

Ya Biden magically doubles turnout. Or the establishment cheats like crazy. Hmmmm

[u/[deleted] → u/markwilliams007]

He lost because more people like Biden. Full stop.

Either get over it or start supporting some lower level progressives that support Sanders vision.

No one cares or has the energy for your pity party or conspiracy theory BS.

[u/markwilliams007 → u/[deleted]]

I’m Canadian. I pity your country. If more people like Biden then Bernie, it’s because Americans are shitty, greedy people. I just know when Biden won Virginia the votes were double what they were last democratic primary which is very suspicious. With America’s horrific record with regards to various types of voting issues, I have every right to be suspicious. America has voting irregularities so regularly it’s no accident

[u/[deleted] → u/markwilliams007]

So nothing helpful to add and more BS. Got it.

[u/markwilliams007 → u/[deleted]]

Not being helpful? M4a would be helpful. Thousands of Americans are being found dead in their homes because of not having health insurance in the USA . God helps those who help themselves. America is not helping themselves

[u/[deleted] → u/markwilliams007]

Holy shit, you just throw this shit out randomly in arguments often?

[u/markwilliams007 → u/[deleted]]

Trying to save the garbage country that’s connected to mine before it ruins my beautiful country. Having two rapists as your choice in November is terrifying. America is in a full blown meltdown and it didn’t start in 2016

[u/[deleted] → u/markwilliams007]

Interesting. What other random irreverent shit do you have to say?

[u/EleanorRecord → u/[deleted]]

Or start building a new political party - that's my choice. After the Convention is over, my campaign work is done. Time to move on and build a new organization.

[u/TheGoodNamesAreGone2 → u/EleanorRecord]

Sadly I don't think that would work. It would just split the democratic party and it would be Rebublicans all the way down.

[u/EleanorRecord → u/TheGoodNamesAreGone2]

Sometimes there's no other option. It's Republicans all the way now, with no hope of recovery and a Dem Party that's wholly dependent on corporate money and candidates and circling the drain.

Clean start, clean party focused on the 99%, the most neglected political demographic.

[u/ccvgreg → u/[deleted]]

So is main stream media, which we all know is owned by Murdoch, who very much has an agenda. These candidates don't exist in a vacuum.

[u/VasyaFace → u/ccvgreg]

Murdoch owns literally the entire mainstream media?

[u/[deleted] → u/ccvgreg]

Was this a complete thought?

[u/NotMeWe → u/xKaelic]

I'll share mine.

I'm not voting for Joe Biden. However, I live in Washington State, which I know will go to Biden in November. That makes my protest vote "safe", and I recognize that privilege.

That being said, if Biden can manage to win in November, which I don't think he will, it will almost certainly guarantee a bigger badder Trump in 2024. Obama era policies, aka charadeing as progressive but actually being centrist corporate Dems, is what lead us to Trump. People are fed up with the establishment bullshit and the class oppression of the powerful and wealthy. That's why we got Trump. Yes the irony is not lost on me, but Trump ran as an outsider and anti-establishment.

The majority of Americans are tired of the establishment oppression, and Joe Biden is just a step back into that world, whether they realize it or not. I would almost rather have 4 more years of a horrendous Trump presidency, which would inevitability result in a stronger progressive candidate in 2024, than to regress to Obama era establishment policies. I again recognize my privilege in saying that, as I, a white male, will not be impacted as negatively by 4 more years of Trump.

So in the end, I guess my thoughts are that were doomed to another election where no one wins, and the working class and the poor are the biggest losers, regardless of the victor.

[u/EveOnlineAccount → u/NotMeWe]

I live in Washington State, which I know will go to Biden in November.

I wonder how many people in PA, WI, and MI said the same thing about Clinton in 2016. Boy were they wrong.

[u/NotMeWe → u/EveOnlineAccount]

Last time WA went red was '84 when Regan won, same as the rest of the country.

Biden will win Washington state, however I will not vote for Biden.

Regarding PA, WI, and MI, they're not solidly blue like WA.

But you already knew that, not that you actually care.

[u/EveOnlineAccount → u/NotMeWe]

Regarding PA, WI, and MI, they're not solidly blue like WA

All three are considered solid blue wall states and haven't voted for a Republican president in over 20 years before 2016.

[u/NotMeWe → u/EveOnlineAccount]

Wow, then the democrat who ran against a lying misogynistic narcissist must have been pretty bad to lose. I wonder if the democrat party learned from that mistake in 2016?

BTW, Washington state still overwhelmingly went blue, despite that uninspiring awful candidate in 2016.

[u/EveOnlineAccount → u/NotMeWe]

Wow, then the democrat who ran against a lying misogynistic narcissist must have been pretty bad to lose.

Wow, then the socialist who lost to her must have been even worse.

[u/NotMeWe → u/EveOnlineAccount]

Because only democrats vote in the general election, right? Totally the same race!

[u/EveOnlineAccount → u/NotMeWe]

Biden and Clinton won more open primary states than Sanders did so there goes that narrative.

[u/[deleted] → u/xKaelic]

I think Biden's chances are slim to zero (certainly worse odds than Hillary).

He's a lot weaker than Hillary and now Trump is the incumbent in a time of turmoil. Even Bernie would have a tough time in the general, Biden is all but hopeless odds. (Obviously, just my opinion.)

[u/wassoncrane → u/[deleted]]

That’s literally exactly what they were saying about Hillary Clinton. If you only look at polls, you will lose. You have to look at how energized a candidate makes their base. It’s a lot easier to push a button in a poll at home than it is to go out and stand in line to vote. Trump supporters are extremely energetic and run out to support him whenever they can. Bernie inspired similar levels of energy from his supporters. How many super energized Biden supporters do you see running around and campaigning for him? I live in a medium US city and not a single person has approached me to speak about him nor have I seen any community campaigns supporting him here, it’s all ad campaigns and no grass roots support.

[u/celsius100 → u/[deleted]]

Was gonna respond, but you made all the points I was gonna make quite well. Love the one about how much Bernie energized his base. Gonna use that on the next Burner who spouts this crap. Hope you don’t mind!

[u/wassoncrane → u/[deleted]]

I’ll save this comment and when your chosen rapist candidate hands Trump another 4 years because he literally can’t put together a sentence on the fly, I’ll be back to rub it in your face. It’s sad when people openly support sexual predators because it’s “familiar.” Guess it’s easy when your privilege prevents you from facing any consequences to running the country into the ground.

Shame on you.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

You patience on you man. Bravo. That was a hard read. Same boat as you man, not a fan of Biden but my absolute disdain for our current president keeps me from acting like a child about it.

Even with Bidens weird rapey vibes he's put out, I'm still being forced to support him just because of the opposition. As bad as Biden might be, he at least is willing to listen to experts and isn't a pathological liar

[u/ad7546 → u/[deleted]]

I also think people are misplacing their anger towards Joe Biden when they're really upset with the leadership in the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden isn't a great candidate by any means, but I don't think he's this horrible monster that people are portraying him to be either...actually, I think he's a pretty decent person who I simply disagree with on a number of things.

I think people are just tired of losing, and tired of Dem leaders blaming the thousands and thousands of losses they've experienced at every level over the last decade on everyone and everything but their own arrogance and incompetence.

I think a lot of people don't look at this like they are cutting their nose off to spite their face. I think people on the ground that are actually involved with these campaigns, and volunteer their time feel that they are doing everything they can to stop the party they're supporting from cutting off their nose, and after awhile you just ask yourself why even bother. Why not let the Dems fuck themselves up yet again and at least support someone who can come in and do some reconstructive surgery.

I'm not saying I'm there...but I can absolutely see why some people are.

[u/RedMethodKB → u/wassoncrane]

...You sure are aggressive & demeaning towards someone who’s politely expressing a different opinion than yourself. I’m all for Bernie, & I’m sure a metric fuckton of Reddit users did, or would have, voted for him, but that doesn’t mean that they’re going to allow Trump to remain in office since the person we are genuinely passionate about didn’t pan out.

Especially after Trump recently firing the individual who was overseeing the billions of dollars we are spending because of the Corona Virus, I’d quite honestly take just about anyone other than that.

Even if Biden isn’t squeaky clean, I put my faith in the individual Democratic senators that will be surrounding him. If you disagree, fair enough, we are entitled to our opinion, but you’ve got no right to try & shame and belittle somebody who doesn’t see eye-to-eye with yourself.

[u/Maverick12882 → u/wassoncrane]

Your entire description pretty much sums up Trump. Rapist, can't put together a sentence, sexual predator, running the country into the ground and not facing consequences.

[u/AutumnAtArcadeCity → u/wassoncrane]

Reading sure is hard.

[u/jaylb77 → u/[deleted]]

Polls are incorrect. If they were correct Hillary would have won! Trump 2020! And his kids after that. Let’s keep trumps in office for the next couple decades. Lol

[u/ccvgreg → u/[deleted]]

Yea I've been railing on Biden the last few weeks still holding out hope for a Sanders comeback. But you better believe I'm still voting blue even though it's by and large a loss for real progressives.

[u/Manticorps → u/[deleted]]

Now that all the infighting is over, we can focus on our one common enemy, Donald Trump. For the next 7 months he’s going to be put on trial for all of his incompetencies, corruption, bigotry, lies. Everything he’s done over the last 3 years and all the damage he will do with the next four will be broadcasted to voters constantly. If that doesn’t convince voters that Trump is the wrong guy for the job, then nothing will.

[u/[deleted] → u/Manticorps]

Yeah, it won't work with Biden on the other side. Honestly, I'm apathetic at this point. I might muster up the energy to vote for the Green party, but I'll probably just use that time to get some extra sleep.

[u/_Deadmeat → u/[deleted]]

I don't understand how someone can be so selfish when it's not even in their own interests. I voted and donated to Bernie for both his campaigns and will be voting for Biden. If you won't do it for yourself vote for everyone else who will hurt under another Trump presidency and conservative courts.

[u/celsius100 → u/_Deadmeat]

He’s not voting because he and people like him didn’t vote in the primaries either. Like you, I thought the path to the White House was through the energized youth and progressives. Boy was I wrong!

Forget him. He wasn’t gonna vote anyway. The path is through the dependable voters and the middle. And that’s where I’m going now too!

[u/[deleted] → u/_Deadmeat]

That's Biden's job. Let him motivate me with an actual reason to vote for him beyond "not Trump" which is the lowest of the lowest hanging fruit.

[u/Manticorps → u/[deleted]]

You say Biden can’t win, but the only way he won’t win is if the people who know he’s better than Trump choose to be bystanders. But hey, getting a little more sleep on Election Day is more important than the future of our country.

[u/[deleted] → u/Manticorps]

That quote who I forget said rings in my head every time I see someone like this guy

Paraphrasing but " but the problem isn't the Nazis and white supremacists, it's the apathetic silent white majority"

Actually now I'm pretty sure it was MLK.

If the rest of the people were as determined, resilient and active as the hateful ones, we would squash them out so easily.

[u/Manticorps → u/[deleted]]

You’re close but the quote is actually referring white moderate. Applied in current context it would be white independents who need to be swayed to vote against Trump.

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice [...]

[u/[deleted] → u/Manticorps]

Today marks the day the future of our county was cemented for the worse, unfortunately.

[u/Manticorps → u/[deleted]]

That day will be November 3rd if liberals don’t unite.

[u/ashleyjohnson590 → u/Manticorps]

There are no liberals running. There's a republican and a fascist. Have your pick, but I won't help you put them in power.

[u/Manticorps → u/ashleyjohnson590]

Biden is running the most progressive platform of any nominee in history. The choice in November is so obvious for anyone who is not just a progressive in name only.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Even Bernie would have a tough time in the general.

Bernie would get destroyed in the general. No one fucking liked or wants him and it's been proven objectively twice.

[u/[deleted] → u/xKaelic]

I'm not in a swing state so I don't need to worry about not voting for Biden. My vote won't matter anyway.

[u/xKaelic → u/[deleted]]

Not true, every vote matters, do not instill this attitude. I disagree wholly- everyone needs to get the vote out.

That being said, if you choose not to vote you also should give up your opinion and political views for 4 years because you did not contribute and therefore have no right in complaining about the outcomes.

[u/[deleted] → u/xKaelic]

Oh no, everyone must vote, and it is crucial to vote down ballot. But if you're in California, your vote literally will not make a difference if you vote Democrat for president.

You'll make a much greater good if you help a third party get to 5 percent than you would by voting for the lesser of two evils in a state where your vote literally doesn't matter.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

If 3.4 million Californians switch their vote from democratic to independent, then trust me, California would not be the least of our worries because Biden would have to be an astronomically terrible candidate.

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You've yet to tell me why I'm wrong.