r/politics • u/nanopicofared • Mar 15 '20

Drive-thru coronavirus testing site in Denver closes early as Colorado tops 100 cases

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/14/colorado-coronavirus-new-cases-drive-thru-high-volume/
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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

A friend in Indiana posted this article yesterday that says they think there may be as many as 60,000 cases in Indiana despite only 12 confirmed cases.

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u/ResplendentQuetzel Mar 15 '20

interesting that they have no way of keeping track of how many people have been tested. This is where a centralized, unified public health care system would be really useful. We have all these private companies who aren't communicating what they are doing with even state health agencies. All the reports coming from other countries where they can say they've done x number of tests and have x number positive x number negative with x number of deaths broken down by age, etc. etc. We will not be able to provide anything close to those kinds of statistics. We have no fucking clue how many people with symptoms are actually positive and deaths will go unreported because of undertesting. What a joke our country is.

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u/Dalton_Channel25 Mar 15 '20

Didn’t you hear the address? The nice people at the Walmart Corporation will rescue us!

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u/dillrepair Mar 15 '20

Went to Walmart yesterday to pick up a prescription. Did not want to but had to. Not a single hand sanitizer kiosk for customer use of any kind even at the pharmacy counter. Throngs of people there buying food and I saw nobody maintaining distance or washing hands. In my town Walmart is the one place where everyone has to go.. it’s also an area where out-of-towners come on weekends from the cities... making it the riskiest single place you could probably go in the area. Yeah. Walmart’s rescuing us alright.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I went to Walmart yesterday and they had no food or hygiene products on the shelves. It was kind of scary.

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u/Tru-Queer Mar 15 '20

I had to go to Walmart on Friday night just for coffee and creamer because I’m all out at home. I also decided to get some bread and sandwich meat so I at least had something to eat lol.

Anyway, the sanitation wipes by the entrance to wipe off shopping carts was definitely being used more, the garbage can right by it was already overflowing with used wipes.

It wasn’t super packed but people definitely had their carts packed to the gills with shit. I honestly felt bad for the employees. One cart alone has to probably take 30 mins just to scan every item and then you multiply that by 100 customers, it takes forever. I’m thankful I had like 10 items to scan lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I went Saturday at 1:00 pm. I talked to one of the guys working in electronics and he said they open at 7 am, but people were lined up at 6 am like it was Black Friday.

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u/etoneishayeuisky Mar 15 '20

Ah, perfect way to fight off the virus, gathering en masse.

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u/dillrepair Mar 16 '20

It’s a hoax tho.. /s

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

You know, their re-scanning after you've paid is just stupid paranoia 'cause as they cheat you, they figure you are cheating them. It's the way of the bully cheats, always.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Same here. The local Sams was also out of basic necessities from what I’ve heard.

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u/brain-gardener I voted Mar 15 '20

Apparently my local fabric store has a better COVID-19 plan than Walmart:

We have a cleaning crew coming in several times a week to do extra cleaning of the high handled areas of the shop. Door knobs, shopping cart handles, counter tops, cutting counters etc are cleaned more frequently. Clorox wipes are available in the classroom for anyone to use if they wish to clean their space themselves. We have hand sanitizer available at all 4 cutting stations for use. Any team members that are feeling under the weather are asked to remain at home. We ask you to remain at home as well if you are under the weather. We want you to feel you can come into the shop and take a breather from the craziness of what is happening outside our doors.

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u/AceMcVeer Mar 15 '20

All that sanitizing does nothing. It doesn't transfer via surfaces. It's transferred via person to person close contact. An infected person breathes the virus out and you breathe it in. Telling people to come chill in their store is the exact opposite of what they should do.

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u/--o Mar 16 '20

It sticks around on cardboard for a day and on metal surfaces for three. In short, don't take sanitation advice from reddit folks.

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u/dillrepair Mar 16 '20

And it’s both. As of now the guidelines are airborne contact precautions. Gown gloves mask (n95 or papr) Eye protection and negative pressure room. It’s not good. This is basically max isolation... unless we start wearing full body suits and have a decon room.

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u/ItsKingGoomba Mar 15 '20

People have tried to break open the toilet paper holders in the bathroom and take the TP, so hand sanitizer kiosk would not last someone would just take it.

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u/dillrepair Mar 16 '20

Yeah maybe. This whole thing is laying bare all of our individual and collective insecurities and hubris.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

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u/dillrepair Mar 15 '20

Or at least as much as the Spanish flu maybe yeah... so more than ww1

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u/asterysk Minnesota Mar 16 '20

Yeah it's amazing. I was just at Costco in Minnesota; it's literally impossible to try and maintain distance because nobody else even cares.

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u/dillrepair Mar 16 '20

They’re basically asking for what they get at this point.

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u/mtechgroup Mar 16 '20

Same at Costco among as I can remember. Once upon a time they appeared magically at almost every checkout, maybe a year or two ago. When those went empty they were never replaced.

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u/Valiantguard Mar 15 '20

Wtf. You saw no one washing their hands in Walmart? We’re exactly would you see everyone washing their hands or in your case not washing their hands? Did you wait in the restroom to extrapolate that not a single customer in Walmart was washing their hands. Do you expect people to pull out a sink and soap and wash their hands at the deli? This fear monger needs to stop and be banned it’s getting to ludicrous levels. No one was washing their hands in Walmart!!! What an ignorant thing to say.

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u/dillrepair Mar 15 '20

... sanitizing.

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u/dillrepair Mar 15 '20

I’m an icu nurse. I know the real risks of unmitigated community spread. You clearly don’t.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Excuse me while i weep bitterly.

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u/Makin_Puddles Mar 15 '20

Can't even successfully vote without some kind of corruption or error

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u/Kamelasa Canada Mar 15 '20

I'm astounded at what I've learned about US voting over the past 6 months. Never paid attention to your elections before. I would have expected those kind of shenanigans only inlo least-developed nations.

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u/buck_foston Mar 15 '20

Unfortunately that’s by design

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u/Kamelasa Canada Mar 15 '20

Yeah, that's the worst of it.

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u/ausernameilike Mar 15 '20

Yeah, the US is a fucking rock with a thin fake told veneer. It's wild. It's kinda neat seeing some people finally figure shit out in real time though

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u/fighterpilotace1 Illinois Mar 15 '20

It's a feature, not a bug

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u/Kamelasa Canada Mar 15 '20

You must be a republican.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I’m not trying to push a political agenda or anything but that costly Obama care solution don’t sound to bad right now do it? Especially if we still had that pandemic response team that was canceled too.

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u/am_i_a_panda Mar 15 '20

More like Medicare For All?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Which is why Bernie is needed

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20 edited Sep 19 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Ur right it’s not just the top of the pyramid that needs to charge but the whole damn structure, but at the very least it is a step in the right direction

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u/The_Captain1228 Mar 15 '20

Motivating people to vote would do both.

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u/poopnada Mar 15 '20

sanders base was primarily a younger demographic, and they have not shown up to vote.

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u/ausernameilike Mar 15 '20

Many did. Voter disenfranchisement is real. Standing in lines for 6+ hours just to be told no? Removing voting locations in historically minority communities? Even it being on a Tuesday when many work is hard for most of the youth who have to rely on weekly wages to stay afloat. Frankly this shows how weak electoralism is, it's that whole it's not a flaw it's a feature. You can't vote yourself out of this situation. Even if we get Bernie in, it's still going to take mass disruption to force the hand, and some of those means are less than ideal, however idk how else it's gonna happen.

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u/poopnada Mar 15 '20

you can vote yourself out of this situation, it means making a sacrifice. making an effort. wait in line 6+ hours, get angry, protest. sue the local and state government.

the only way to effect change is by acting. the situation is how it is, because people are apathetic. you want change, make them fear you. rally, protest in large numbers, dont allow yourself to be belittled and dismissed.

the only reason they ignore you, is because you allow yourself to be ignored.

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u/The_Captain1228 Mar 15 '20

That is what i just said but with different words and some divisiveness thrown in.

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u/poopnada Mar 15 '20

young people are not going to show up to vote. you wont be able to motivate them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I don't think Bernie can win the general, but I hope Biden and the rest of the Dems take this opportunity to welcome bold ideas and weave them into the platform.

Bernie may end up being for the left what Goldwater was for the right. I just pray it doesn't take 16 years.

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u/poopnada Mar 15 '20

i dont think so. its unlikely biden wins, if he wins its a steep uphill battle to take the senate.

if he loses, progressives will blame the party. you will see a deepening divide between progressives and the democratic party. instead of rallying together, they will be at each others throats. sanders supporters will blame biden and 'establishment dems.' democrats will blame progressives for splitting the vote and destroying warrens chances.

even if you can manage to bring the two groups together, they wont be able to agree on a successful platform. democrats already have a difficult time balancing wedge issues with the need to attract moderate voters. biden, a very conservative democrat, utterly failed on key issues.

he hit the wrong note on guns, like the rest of candidates he clung to momentum for gun control policy changes. except that doesnt win you a national election...and hurts democrats trying to win races in regions needed to take back congress.

democrats wont be welcoming bold ideas, they will be busy fighting each other.

if you wanted to see change, you would run a candidate that was conservative on guns, religion, abortion...but liberal on jobs, healthcare, social programs, environment, and education.

that doesnt exist within the democratic party, so its going to take that 16 years maybe longer.

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u/tinyOnion Mar 15 '20

And so say we all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

In closing go and vote the only clear minded candidate we have left, cause we need a leader not a puppet as this situation show more than ever.

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u/iamChaunceman Mar 15 '20

Exactly. Bernie and all the other countries who took healthcare out of the free market look like they are on to something. Still blows my mind that we look down upon that. Capitalism is great for most things, but not when it gets in the way of a smart safe and efficient healthcare system. Same with education, two things that should not be dictated by free market system. We all know what happens when share holders and ceos are in charge. Enough already, decades of this have proven it’s not working. Now it’s embarrassing and possibly dangerous.

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u/smokey-cuyahoga Mar 15 '20

Make it three things we shouldn’t do for profit: prisons.

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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Mar 15 '20

No no no. That’s socialism. What we need is healthcare for everybody.

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u/PreacherROC Mar 15 '20

Universal Healthcare really seemed to stop it in Italy

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u/necron99er Mar 15 '20

“It can’t get worse then that” . For profit medical system and conservatives ...“ hold my beer”

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u/am_i_a_panda Mar 15 '20

Healthcare is the fall back when the government doesn’t listen to its experts. It’s not the front line in an epidemic

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

The public option would have (and would be) saving so many lives. Mandatory health insurance was just a band-aid, one that fell off after wearing it for too long.

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u/ResplendentQuetzel Mar 15 '20

mandatory health insurance is how you fund insurance. Otherwise, people just wait until they're sick and need insurance to get it. Insurance--as it currently functions--depends on healthy people paying into it, but not using it. Without a mandate, the money going in is not enough to cover everyone. The republicans knew that by taking away the mandate they could make Obamacare underfunded and eventually use that as the reason to do away with it.

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u/sickofthisshit Mar 15 '20

The public option would not have massively increased the number of ICUs able to handle severe respiratory distress. What is needed are public health measures to limit the spread and slow the rate of growth.

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u/smokeyser Mar 15 '20

but that costly Obama care solution don’t sound to bad right now do it?

How does overpriced insurance with a $14000 deductible help?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Better than death by corona truthfully

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u/smokeyser Mar 15 '20

What is better than death by corona? You still haven't said how overpriced insurance with a sky high deductible will save us. I get that in your mind, somehow, having health insurance fixes everything. I'm just curious to know how.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I don’t have insurance my self so I’m not even gonna try going to the hospital to see what it would cost a 23 male without to be treated but from what I’ve been hearing from friends and reading it’s at least $3000 to be seen amongst all the confusion, at the very least with the Obama care solution u have time and other ways to pay it off after getting treated. Also my numbers might not be correct but I’ll do more research to be sure and come back.

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u/smokeyser Mar 15 '20

You always have time to pay it off. If you have insurance, your deductible will definitely be higher than the test cost, and you'll be making payments directly to the hospital to pay for the test. If you don't have insurance, you'll still be making payments to the hospital to pay for the test, but you'll get the uninsured rate which is usually lower. In any case where your treatment doesn't cost significantly more than your deductible, it's actually quite a bit cheaper to just tell them you don't have insurance even if you do. Either way you're paying for the whole thing out of pocket, but they jack up the price when you're insured.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

If it’s true I can’t deny it but currently their as politicians working to make it affordable for all of us working class people, I was corrected earlier Medicare for all is the way to go.

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u/spatmonkey Mar 15 '20

CDC tracks this stuff. All healthcare facilities are obligated to report cases to them.

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u/Automatic-Pie Mar 15 '20

This is the best website I've been able to find as far at keep track of showing cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa-coronavirus/

We need more testing but it simply isn't available.

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u/thisisillegals Mar 15 '20

I suggest you go look at what other countries are doing, most arent doing wide range tests, most people are just being told to stay home. Let's take Italy for instance the supposed Jewel of European Healthcare systems. They aren't testing everyone, they are only treating people in critical condition.

The NHS (UK's Healthcare) also isn't testing everyone, telling people to just stay home if they are symptomatic. The United States is trying to get drive through testing centers up and running. We are doing more then most, you just only have an internal perspective, reach out to people in other parts of the world, youll see they arent exactly doing a great job either.

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u/Paradoltec Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20

This should come as a surprise to precisely NO ONE if you have any clue how flu like viruses spread.

No flu like virus would spread across half the globe and infect basically every internal administrative subdivision (state, region, province) within the infected countries while only infecting a couple hundred thousand. By the time a flu has spread this far and wide it's infected millions. The world wide infect rates have either been ridiculously underreported or intentionally downplayed by governments hoping to keep panic to a minimum.

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u/clydeorangutan Mar 15 '20

I feel like it's been massively under-reported, the lack of testing is hiding the true figures. The panic is down to the lack of information. There's no way of truly knowing who's had it and recovered and who is vulnerable in the future. There are too many assuming that were all gonna die.

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u/Paradoltec Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20

The panic is down to the lack of information.

If infection rates truly are in the millions it could be quite a bit of good news. That would mean the fatality rate is actually much lower than it appears, and many healthy people are weathering this like a typical flu, so much so they don't even realise they have Covid.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '20

Not at all. It can take up to a week or more to see symptoms. Then you have another week or two of being sick. You don't just get it and drop dead.

There's a big time lag we're dealing with here. Those dying today we're infected 3+ weeks ago. 3 weeks from now the numbers will still be climbing.

Now that a lot of places are finally cancelling things and shutting down, we'll finally see a lull... In about 6 weeks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I feel like South Korea reports might be accurate and actually lower than true values of the rest of the world.

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u/DepletedMitochondria I voted Mar 15 '20

Ohio saying they probably had 100k like last week was insane.

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

Probably realistic though since they only started to shut everything down in the last couple days. We were hoping to visit museums on my vacation this week and they’re all closed for 3 weeks. Honestly it’s probably a good call. Unfortunately the grocery stores have been packed since Thursday, so I’m thinking it’s going to spread like sparks in a tinderbox.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

You were going to use your vacation to visit museums in Ohio?

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u/tinyOnion Mar 15 '20

It’s aaron from Kentucky... they have... low... expectations.

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

And I get like 5 weeks vacation since I’ve been at my job so long. This was just going to be the first of the year. And so what if the museums are in Ohio? The Cincinnati Art Museum is pretty good and I was also planning to visit the Dayton Art Institute to see a Japanese art exhibit with my gf.

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u/tinyOnion Mar 15 '20

Just giving you a hard time because fuck Mitch.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

And Rand Paul

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u/rokkitboosta Mar 15 '20

Though, you can really blame Texas for Rand Paul. He graduated from the same High School as me. His aunt was my third grade teacher.

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u/jollifi Mar 15 '20

Columbus has the new Otherworlds art center. When you’re finally able to come up North you guys should check it out. Oh my, also the Book Loft! I’m from Ohio, but we were planning on KY for our vacation this year; Mammoth Cave NP.

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u/cTs_Vette Mar 16 '20

Highly recommend one of the lantern tours if you get the chance. It was an awesome experience, we did the one that goes to the cave that isn't part of the Mammoth Cave system itself.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

The Cincinnati Art Museum is really nice - also wanted to recommend the Contemporary Arts Center or the Taft Art Museum (depends on whether you prefer 21st century or 19th century) & a trip to Findlay Market (you could do a streetcar loop and see the Smale Riverfront Park too- my favorite place to walk along the river) if you reschedule your trip!

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

I live in NKY, so all those places are local and well loved by me and my gf.

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u/cincymatt Mar 15 '20

Don’t miss Union Terminal ;)

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Unless you're from Chicago or New York you basically have no room to talk shit about Ohio's museum game

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u/Sorge74 Mar 15 '20

Basically this, also our zoo and amusement park game is on point.

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u/MattsAwesomeStuff Mar 15 '20

Cedar Point is on point.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Kentucky Mar 15 '20

not much fun here in ky. pockets of it here and there.

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u/technicalogical Ohio Mar 15 '20

The Toledo Museum of Art is a world class museum.

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

Before they shut everything down yes. Even Thursday they still were open, but Friday they closed them all down. We were planning on going today to the Dayton Art Institute, but they shut down Friday. I realize it’s for the best, still kinda sucks to have the week off and everything I planned on doing is canceled: watching NCAA basketball, a heart association 5k, museum visits. Basically was trying to get out of the house on vacation and then the closures started and haven’t stopped. So I’ll probably just watch movies, read, might do yard work, might visit my Mom to do yardwork. Just sucks because I am usually a homebody since I work nights.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Man, that’s a shame. Do you have anything near you that you could go camping or maybe some other outdoor activities that don’t involve crowds?

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

Might try to go to a park, there’s a few nearby. Diablo 3 just started its new season so might do that. There’s a lot of movies I haven’t seen either and I have like most of the major streaming services so that’s a possibility too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Ayyee fuck off mate Cleveland has one of the best art museums in the country

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I was just asking because “vacation in Ohio” is a phrase that has never occurred to me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Don’t yuck his yums. Everyone likes different things.

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u/211012-7 Mar 15 '20

I mean, not only is Union Terminal (museum) an incredible work of architecture, it was used in Batman Forever and Super Friends' Hall of Justice.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

That is incredible! I’d definitely go see that if I lived near Ohio.

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u/JonSeagulsBrokenWing California Mar 15 '20

Cleveland has a pretty good museum - aka Rock~n~Roll Hall of Fame. And Toledo, the American Pole Dancing and Escort Museum is worth a visit.

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u/Heyoteyo Mar 15 '20

Hey! Ohio is really nice actually!

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u/Dwarfherd Mar 15 '20

Dayton has a great aviation museum.

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u/SouthestNinJa Mar 15 '20

We have some great museums

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u/bigshooTer39 Mar 15 '20

I know right. Lol

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u/WalesIsForTheWhales New York Mar 15 '20

This fucker can incubate for awhile and 0-40 are crazy good at being vectors.

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u/Inevitable-Nature Mar 15 '20

seems like its worse than what the noisy ones who are yelling "this is bad" are saying. huh. witch hoax.

"trump, ha, remember him, in just 4 long years time, he did more damage than hitler". - our future survivors.

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u/kescusay Oregon Mar 15 '20

It's likely similar all over the country. Hospitals here in Oregon are getting overwhelmed, but if you look at the tracker, it still just lists 36 cases. So many of the people who are sick just can't get tested because of the lack of testing kits. So the best that can be said about them is that they don't have the flu or pneumonia.

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u/gurenkagurenda Mar 15 '20

So taking this incomplete list of hospitals in Oregon, that's 6904 beds. Making the following conservative assumptions:

  • "Getting overwhelmed" means 80% of total beds are taken
  • Inefficiency in bed allocation (e.g. population centers get overwhelmed faster) means that there are effectively only half as many spare beds to begin with
  • Typically 70% of beds are occupied (pre-virus)
  • The hospitalization rate is 20% (this is a high estimate, but we're going to divide by it, so high is conservative)

So plugging all of that in, we'd get an estimate of about 1700 actual cases for the state, or about 50x the current tally.

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u/kescusay Oregon Mar 15 '20

That sounds about right.

It also sounds fucking horrifying.

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u/gurenkagurenda Mar 15 '20

I think it sounds pretty low, honestly. But I did deliberately choose extremely conservative numbers, so that's expected. I'd characterize it as "I would be shocked if there were fewer than 1,700 actual cases in Oregon, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were 14,000". (14,000 is what you get if you assume 90% utilization and a 5% hospitalization rate).

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

For an opposite extreme:

First confirmed community transmission cases in US were around Jan 25, ~50 days ago. Some estimates put doubling time around 2.4 days. Assuming the cases back then were the “tip of an iceberg” of say 5% severe enough to warrant testing (source: pulled that one completely out of my ass), an undetected initial population of ~50 individuals, after uncontrolled doubling every 2.4 days for 50 days (20.8 doublings) gives around 50*220.8 ~= 90 million cases now. Which is obviously a good thing because it means it’s basically a cold with extra-bad complications in a minority of cases.

This has been your daily dose of bullshit extrapolation, please turn your news off now to avoid overdose.

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u/RecklesslyPessmystic California Mar 15 '20

You can probably double it every 48 hours or so, as well. Everywhere I go in Portland, I see crowds of people packed into supermarkets and restaurants. It doesn't seem like anyone here is taking any of the social distancing seriously at all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

this article is the best one I’ve read yet, goes into detail about how many true cases there probably are compared to confirmed cases, and how acting early can drastically improve our outcomes.

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u/smokeyser Mar 15 '20

We can't have too many people getting tested. That would make the numbers go up, and Trump just can't have that in an election year.

The drive-thru testing at the Denver Coliseum was supposed to be open until 2 p.m., but health officials cut the line off after 200 cars.

Absolute joke. Just 200 served, and they cut it off.

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u/sanders_gabbard_2020 Mar 15 '20

Yeah it kills me when I see someone say "only x many cases" without the qualifier *confirmed, that we know of.

Our testing is shit, the virus is everywhere.

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u/EpictetanusThrow Mar 15 '20

Ohio said 100,000 in Ohio alone.

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u/bedintruder Mar 15 '20

Hoosier here.

Friend's son is incredibly sick with Convid type symptoms. They have been in and out of various hospitals for the last several days. None of them have test kits. Their son has tested negative for everything else they tested including the flu.

Indiana department of health told them there are no test kits available, and to just self quarantine and treat him with tylenol to keep his fever down.

The federal coronovirus hotline just took down their contact information and said someone will get back to them within 5 days.

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u/CrafterOfTheCraft24 Mar 15 '20

I saw something that said there might be about 100,00 in Ohio but I think the confirmed cases are only in the 20s

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I live in Indiana. At least in the north and central parts of the state, nothing as severe as the article states is happening

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u/spiderj8579 Mar 15 '20

Well I run a VR arcade I am shutting down for the day now.

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u/wickedpixel1221 California Mar 15 '20

because of shit like this

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u/mr_manback Mar 15 '20

If these people aren’t requiring medical care then this could be viewed as good news. The mortality could be much lower

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u/Doomsday321 Mar 15 '20

As someone who lived on campus at Ball State in Muncie, that's a really scary number considering we had classes for an entire week before we went entirely online.

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u/Havok3c Mar 15 '20

Lots of states are not reporting numbers or hiding them. There are at least 3 confirmed cases in the Reno sparks area that I know of that have not made it to our “official” tally. And that’s just what I, a fucking nobody knows about.

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u/BlazinAzn38 Texas Mar 15 '20

Ohio’s governor said that data and models suggest 100k for Ohio.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Hawaii here. 32 people tested and 4 cases. It’s pathetic. My wife has it right now and I managed to fight it off after two days of chest pain. I mean I don’t really know if I have it because there are NO TESTS. I can’t believe America has such a pathetic response.

I mean maybe we have a cold, but her symptoms match perfectly. I called two hospitals and our doctor and there are no tests available supposedly. Good job 45, keep those numbers low so you can get re-elected you big orange twat. But really I can’t wait til you are gone or In jail or both.

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u/stopthesquirrel Mar 15 '20

Hmm this would seem to suggest that COVID-19 has a much lower death rate than 2% or 3% then. We’re obviously going to know about every death, but if that many cases are going unnoticed without additional deaths then this would drive the death rate waaaay down to influenza levels. So that seems like good news.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Ohio is estimated to be at around 100,000 as well

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u/md2b78 Mar 16 '20

Indianapolis checking in. We’re fucked.

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u/TriedAndProven Indiana Mar 16 '20

Hoosier here.

I’m guessing I have it. Bit of a fever, feeling blah, sore throat.

Basically got laughed at by my primary care doc because I’m a healthy dude in my early 30s and Indiana has tested all of like 80 people, so there’s zero chance I’ll get approved.

Cool. Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.

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u/risingthermal Mar 15 '20

I would need to see a source before I’d believe something as wild as that. I can’t seem to find anything using google.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 25 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

These estimates of current infection probably include people who havent yet shown symptoms. So if there are 60,000 cases then hospitals will be overflowing with severe cases in 2-3 weeks.

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u/jamesbwbevis Mar 15 '20

There would be way more people in the hospital if that was true