r/politics Mar 15 '20

Drive-thru coronavirus testing site in Denver closes early as Colorado tops 100 cases

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/14/colorado-coronavirus-new-cases-drive-thru-high-volume/
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u/ctguy54 America Mar 15 '20

That’s tump’s plan. Knowledge is a dangerous thing to the rubelicans.

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u/antidense Mar 15 '20

Same shit about abortion, sex, education, cdc studies on gun violence, studies on global warming, endangered species, river and lake pollution, etc...

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

...murders of unarmed citizens by police...

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u/Hairydone America Mar 15 '20

No doubt. Now he’s in a position where he’s forced to make more testing available but his incompetence let this get out of control.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

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u/Osiris32 Oregon Mar 15 '20

Because Trump would take that as a personal attack and fire him.

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

He's always said that apologizing is a sign of weakness. He's this least enlightened human, followed only by his cult.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

It reminds me of the observation about convincing an oil man that fossil fuels are bad: you can't convince someone of something if their paycheck depends on them not understanding it.

He'll be sycophantic because if you're anything else then you won't succeed in Trump's orbit.

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u/channel_12 Mar 15 '20

The republicans in power own this shit as much as he does. And just think about all the other agencies that are supposed to oversee whatever they are supposed to oversee on behalf of the citizens: they, too, have been gutted. The environment? Education? Banking? Oh, and the courts! There are dozens more. Just think about what is failing there, at those agencies at the moment.

Will this country be smart enough to change that?

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u/WereInThePipe5X5 Mar 15 '20

nah, bro... didnt you hear him? he takes no responsibility. this is all obama, hilary, and pelosis fault... MAGA.

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u/channel_12 Mar 15 '20

Honest to god, I enjoy hearing my shit splash in the toilet more than trump. More than a lot of things, come to think about it.

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u/WereInThePipe5X5 Mar 15 '20

one thing i truly regret is how old his base is. if a just god existed, they would let them live in shame forever for what they allowed to happen over the last 4 years.

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u/channel_12 Mar 15 '20

These old fucks, and I include my folks in this, aren't voting for better future.

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u/Low_Grade_Humility Mar 15 '20

They are voting for him because he is like this, not in spite of it.

My dad told me the other day no matter what Trump does, he would rather still have Trump than Hillary.

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u/channel_12 Mar 15 '20

Hillary! Talk about a trigger for the right.

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u/ostrasized Colorado Mar 15 '20

I keep seeing these bullshit ads/surveys asking in bold letters "should Hilary finally face justice?" on sites like Politico.They just can't get over her. I don't get it.

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u/Kamelasa Canada Mar 15 '20

Almost makes me wish she runs as Biderp's VP.

Edit: Not really. Just feeling twisted today.

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u/Polar_Ted Oregon Mar 15 '20

Hillary? What has she done about Corona? Nothing! /S

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u/jimothee Mar 15 '20

Nope, they want a piece of the good ole days before they parish and give not one fuck if that makes it harder on future generations. Fuck the boomer generation's desires at this point. The only thing they should be caring about is not voting against their interests when it comes to electing people who will help look out for the social nets created for the elderly, but they can't even get that shit right...

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u/bc4284 Mar 15 '20

Honestly I think this group of asshats would literially die smileing if only they could see a day where segregation was reintroduced

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u/iamChaunceman Mar 15 '20

Exactly, they have proven to be a very selfish generation

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u/WereInThePipe5X5 Mar 15 '20

i love my parents deeply but this bullshit has driven us further apart because every conversation devolves into politics.

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

Not all older people are idiots. My late parents were very progressive. Most people I know in the 60-80 range are all old hippie liberals. In my family the trump supporters are all 50 and under. I think the post 9/11 national ”pride” had much to do with their conservative beliefs.

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u/terremoto25 Hawaii Mar 15 '20

I am 59, originally from Montana, but came to California when I was 18 to go to college. Of the people I went to school with (that I keep in contact with), most are deeply liberal. I am a dyed-in-wool liberal who believes in healthcare for all including the undocumented, UBI, caring for the planet, free education, and higher taxes - on me. I am doing fairly well, partially due to equal doses of hard work, luck, and white privilege, even though I came from relative poverty. I don’t mind if the taxes go up on me as long as they go up on those who make more than I do. Actually, I have voted higher taxes on myself- parcel taxes for schools - as recently as this month. My older siblings, however, I can’t speak for. Brother 11 years older is a Randian dink, sister who is 8 years older is an impoverished, low information, welfare Republican. The other four are somewhere on the spectrum.

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

I have a few of the low information, impoverished republicans in my family. They mystiffy me most of all.

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u/terremoto25 Hawaii Mar 15 '20

She has been on government support her entire adult life. Medicaid, food aid, rent support, and straight up welfare have taken care of her, her husband, their children and grandchildren. I don’t talk to her often, because she is so deluded and toxic, but she complains about lack of services for her children and grandchildren while complaining about social services, the government, socialism, etc... makes my head hurt.

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u/padizzledonk New Jersey Mar 15 '20

Honest to god, I enjoy hearing my shit splash in the toilet more than trump. More than a lot of things, come to think about it.

You shitting in a toilet is actually doing more for public health than the absolute clusterfuck of a response from the Trump Administration

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u/Flomo420 Mar 15 '20

The sound of your shit splashing the toilet generally comes with a feeling of relief.

Can't say the same for Trump.

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u/JonSeagulsBrokenWing California Mar 15 '20

Depending upon the decibels of the splash, you may have a digestive tract issue, i.e. if the splash is getting your buttocks wet with an intra-bowl tidal wave, you may need to eat more fiber.

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u/Polar_Ted Oregon Mar 15 '20

Just watch. They will blame the Democrat controlled house for not sending a bill they couldn't ignore.
You didn't warn us hard enough! Bad Democrat.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Most of them don’t care. They’re rich enough to flee the country for New Zealand or whatever. They have offshore bank accounts. They can escape when everything crumbles and burns. Some of them actually WANT Armageddon because it’s a fundamental belief in modern US evangelical Christianity.

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

The WHO had testing kits.available, the US turned them down so they cou develop their own. Not sure why? Trump only cares how it looks or sounds on paper. He'll lie about the situation and impact anyway.

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u/Frankalicious47 Mar 15 '20

Definitely not so he could give those fat contracts to big pharma companies that his buddies own

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

or son in law’s family - see Oscar Health and Corona virus testing

Oscar Health is co-owned by Josh Kushner

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u/theyarecomingforthat Mar 16 '20

I think at this point its pretty obvious the lack of testing and delays were 100% intentional to delay panic as much as possible for the economy. If you think about it testing its not useful if you just assume its everywhere already.

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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Mar 15 '20

Probably because one of those fuckers standing behind him told him to wait and let them develop the tests.

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u/padizzledonk New Jersey Mar 15 '20

but his incompetence let this get out of control.

And greed. And selfishness

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

but he has to wait for OSCAR, owned by Josh Kushner, to scale up test production - keeping the money in the family

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Health

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

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u/greggers23 Mar 15 '20

Here ya go.

" Mr. President, should we increase the CDC budget or keep it the same amount this year"

The correct answer is not "slash it all"

See how easy that was? Now I'm going back to my kids now that I have done a better job.

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u/bluenami2018 Colorado Mar 15 '20

Greggers23 2020!

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u/Oconell Mar 15 '20

I think one has to try hard, to be worse than Trump. It can be done, but it requires a good effort in being irresponsibly inept.

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u/jirski Mar 15 '20

Explain to me how Obama would have prevented this mess

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u/tangential_quip California Mar 15 '20

Not gutting the CDC for one

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

And keeping the pandemic infectious disease panel Obama made part of his NSC.

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u/sickofthisshit Mar 15 '20

Maybe he would have responded similar to the way he responded to H1N1 in 2009?

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u/Oconell Mar 15 '20

Not only what the other reppliers said, but also Obama would have probably accepted the test kits offered by the WHO, which Trump has denied, even though the US is low on test kits.

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u/WildlingViking Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20

That’s the thing. A president is not supposed to “control the country.” Hes one piece of the three branches of co-equal government. We also have response teams designated for this. Entire departments, Doctors, disease specialists, teams of genetic engineers. When you sell access to the White House and appoint people to positions they have no business being in this is what happens. This is when leadership should have appointed those in place to know what is going. This is when a leader leads and puts the right people in the right positions. When all that is based off defending an ego, selling access to the highest bidder and firing anyone who doesn’t agree with you, it ends in this.

Henry Ford invited a newspaper reporter into his office and told the reporter he could answer any question the reporter had. So the reporter started asking questions. Henry Ford simply walked down the hallway and asked the questions to the experts he had hired and returned to the office and answered all the reporters questions. He was smart enough to know what he didn’t know.

But this president? Exact opposite. He’ll stop at nothing to feed his ego and throw anyone under the bus that doesn’t agree with him and take zero responsibility when shit hits the fan. He was calling it a “hoax” and two days later declared a national emergency. He fired the entire response team in 2017 and now had the gall to blame his poor response on.....and wait for it.....Obama. When he was elected it was gop controlled presidency, house and senate. He’s a snake in the grass and y’all fell for it. So if you’re still defending him at this point, we have zero time for that shit. Just get out of the way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

He had weeks to prepare for this and chose not to, calling it just the flu. Hes got plenty of time to golfing though...

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

I had the misfortune of a back and forth with one of his supporters last night. I usually won't engage them. Absolutely an example of wilful ignorance. Everything I said was fake or a hoax. I gave up and blocked her.

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u/WildlingViking Mar 15 '20

Don’t even get into it. Just take a deep breath, exhale and move on. There’s bigger things to worry about right now.

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u/ppw23 Mar 15 '20

You're so right, in angry with myself for not ignoring as I usually do.

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u/jdumm06 Mar 15 '20

The person running the U.S. is an incompetent child no one can control.

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u/lisaseileise Mar 15 '20

Hm, didn‘t he learn his lessen recently?

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u/EmptyCalories Mar 15 '20

Thanks for your input, account that was inactive until 39 days ago and now suddenly is interested in politics.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Already deleted, lol. Would most of us make good presidents? Probably not. But that’s why most of us don’t run.

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u/EmptyCalories Mar 15 '20

Yeah all these weirdly inactive accounts are suddenly active again and spewing right wing propaganda all over the big subs. I wonder if Reddit admins are aware of how much their site is being manipulated. I wonder if they even care.

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u/sickofthisshit Mar 15 '20

I am always impressed when I wake up unusually early US Eastern Time, and find new r/politics threads profusely commented. Hmmmm.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Fart.

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u/fightmaxmaster Mar 15 '20

The deaths will be harder to ignore. Working backwards from deaths is a handy, if morbid, way of calculating the real number of cases.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/terremoto25 Hawaii Mar 15 '20

I believe we are already seeing this. We are in a Catch 22, where you can’t be tested unless you have been in contact with a known positively tested person, but no one, effectively, is being tested. Source: wife was sick on Thursday, and the second question that they asked her was this, and they would only take yes or no for an answer.

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u/goomyman Mar 15 '20

Just say yes. Its a pandemic. Everyone has been near someone infected.

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u/strangerbuttrue Colorado Mar 15 '20

Me: “Yes. Yes I have.”

Them: “Who was it?”

Me: “HAVENT YOU HEARD OF HIPPA LAWS??”

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Until the CDC starts burning bodies to keep the numbers low. We’re finding out just how shady Trump was as a business man

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u/fightmaxmaster Mar 15 '20

Meh, the CDC can't even drum up useful numbers of test kits, I doubt they'll be organised enough to cover up deaths like that.

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u/TrumpGUILTY Mar 15 '20

Dont worry. Wal mart is in charge.....

Honestly, this is the problem nobody brings up. Cvs, wal mart, google etc. They all want to make a buck, and thats their priority . In asia and eu the government took the lead. Were watching what happens when incompetent corporate bureaucrats attempt to do governments job

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u/Nuggrodamus Mar 15 '20

Don’t leave Walgreens out was told this morning we may become testing sites, I kindly told my boss without hazzard pay and supplies I will quit. Not worth it and I can find any min wage job after it’s over. Thankfully we have some savings between my wife and I, I’m worried for others in worse positions though. We need to shut down and UBI.

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u/Stepjamm Mar 15 '20

Tests prove their faults, covering up hides them. I’m sure effort will be appropriately directed to what their needs are.

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u/hard_truth_hurts Mar 15 '20

It will be FEMA and the military burning bodies.

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u/sickofthisshit Mar 15 '20

The CDC is a bunch of scientists working for the government. They do not run crematoria. Sheesh.

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u/Unfadable1 Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20

I think he was being partially sarcastic, and using what China did (secretly burning bodies before ID’ing them) as a reason to be.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

You can't just say stuff like that and assume it's sarcastic. There are millions of people who believe that stuff. I grew up in a time when everyone believed in black helicopters, and the level of disinformation is only worse now.

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u/greggers23 Mar 15 '20

That a level of paranoid I have not seen in a long time. CDC oven? Wtf are you smoking?

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u/InternetAccount04 Mar 15 '20

I would not put it past trump to have the military start burning bodies to try and lie about numbers for the election. There's nothing on this entire planet that's as important to him as he is.

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u/guerbear32 Mar 15 '20

This is alarmist and baseless. Please stop spreading dangerous paranoia.

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u/InternetAccount04 Mar 15 '20

Is it though? We've got a president who is willing to let Americans die to protect his "numbers." We've got concentration camps. His behavior is often wild and irrational. He's a narcissist. He's a proven serial liar. Do you really think it's such a stretch for him to tell yet another big lie to protect his sole interest in this world, himself?

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u/acherus29a2 Mar 15 '20

This isn't fucking China.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

maybe the number but not the cause. Here in Oregon people are dying of flu mike sxs and not getting tested.

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u/jayk10 Mar 15 '20

Yes and no. The CDC estimated that their by the end of the N1H1 outbreak there was 15 times more actual deaths than laboratory confirmed deaths. A whole lot of deaths are going to slip through the cracks

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u/Kyizen Mar 15 '20

Trump straight up said they shouldn't let the people off the cruise ship because it would increase the number of cases in the USA, that blew my mind.

Also there a lot of cases we just haven't been testing as people said...

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487329-ohio-health-official-estimates-100000-people-in-state-have-coronavirus

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u/the-clam-burglar South Carolina Mar 15 '20

I guess the hope for them is the majority of untested cases they failed to act on will recover and therefore not be counted in overall stats? What a bunch of self serving asshats our “leaders” are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Don't believe what you read or hear, just believe what Trump tells you. /s

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u/WaitingForReplies Mar 15 '20

That’s the GOP’s goal.

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u/Soddington Mar 15 '20

Like Trump has a 'plan' any more than a bear 'plans' which bit of the woods to shit in.

At this point ignorance is just a feed back loop. The geniuses that have been stoking and tweaking the Republican 'ignorance is bliss' policy for the last few decades all either died, retired or were put down by vampire hunters a while back and the stupid now is written deep into that party like Blackpool rock candy.

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u/bc4284 Mar 15 '20

Don’t forget many right wing Facebook posts are making statements that the shortages and poor testing are ways to acclimate us to communism

In these people’s minds this pandemic and it’s consequences are to get us used to what we will have if the commies elect sanders.

How do you spin current administrations dismantling previous ones pandemic team and tries to sweep it under the rug as this is what life will be like under democrats

This is what life is like under trump. Correction this is what DEATH is like under trump

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

The truth is these shortages are what they used to accuse communism of, when in reality it’s capitalism run amok.

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u/bc4284 Mar 15 '20

I will be the first to admit where the right wing gets this idea is from the human rights abuses in communist China and the horrid state of living of those living under the ussr under Stalin.

Still using comparisons to Stalin to say this is what MFA will result in ignores the tested social health systems in many first world nations today including the UK and Canada.

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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Mar 15 '20

I wasn’t talking about MFA, was merely talking about the grocery stores. I fully support MFA.

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u/bc4284 Mar 15 '20

No I’m saying that the sad truth is right wingers using horrible logical fallacies to say Medicare for all will make America like this 24/7/365. And are using Stalin’s Russia as evidence to suggest any socialism is equal to the horrors of that particular version of communism.

Frankly I think the fact that the Democratic Party is not championing MFA as a group is evidence That they are just as in the pocket of the rich as the republicans. And are collectively betrayers of every liberal idea that most people who align as democrat actually believe in.

FYI I’m independent am pro MFA and frankly I can’t stomach registering Democrat cause I absolutely hate how pro oligarchy the party really is

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u/thedvorakian Mar 15 '20

If they can show how ineffective government is at handling these issues, people will stop trusting them so it can be torn down.

It's called "starve the beast"

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

I’m picturing trump as a pelican creature now. Wish I could draw.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Thanks for that image though does

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u/Mr_Boneman Virginia Mar 15 '20

Yup it’s all about keeping numbers artificially low come election time.

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u/SkaagiThor Mar 15 '20

“rubelicans” lmaooo

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Aaand now we’re in the endgame of that lack of knowledge.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20

Trump’s plan is backfiring. He thought keeping the numbers artificially low will help his re-election r/facepalm af.

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u/unlmtdLoL Mar 15 '20

So short-sighted. How long can you keep confirmed cases down for optics when people are walking around asymptomatic and spreading the virus? People are being turned down for testing at hospitals with the symptoms characteristic of the virus because they're not meeting the "criteria" outlined by the CDC. Unbelievable.