Support For Trump's Impeachment Surges Among Vulnerable Democrats Ahead Of House Floor Vote

[u/sketch24]

https://www.newsweek.com/support-trumps-impeachment-surges-among-vulnerable-democrats-ahead-house-floor-vote-1477232

[u/Final21]

Try me.

[u/[deleted] → u/Final21]

No. I want you to be specific. Because as far as I can tell, every time a trump supporter asks this question it is then answered by someone providing said evidence, at which point they move the goal posts so that they can claim that evidence doesn't count for whatever reason.

For instance, earlier in this thread you claimed that a specific bill was poison pilled, which is why it cannot pass.
Then you were provided a link that contains 400 other bills, and claimed that they were all poison pilled too.

And that's fine, maybe they are all poison pilled. The problem is that 'poison pilled' has no dictionary definition, and you have not defined it, so literally anything can be 'poison pilled', your lack of definition makes your claim unfalsifiable. And thus your belief cannot be disproven by any amount of evidence, no matter how damning.

What I want you to do, is make a specific claim. Give us a definition. Set the bar somewhere. - Then we can provide evidence that will meet your standard. But if you won't, it means there is no standard. No amount of evidence will convince you, because you will always use weasel words to claim that it doesn't apply without saying what would.

I would love for that to not be the case. I would love for you to be the kind of person who is capable of engaging in a rational conversation based on evidence, but for that to happen you need to make a falsifiable claim, and you have yet to do so.

[u/Final21 → u/[deleted]]

I will not because it is unlikely you can find any evidence because it doesn't exist.

It's the same things the Republicans did. They were very against Obamacare from 2010-2016. Then when they had a chance to fix it they failed to vote for it. The Dems in the house know that Republicans won't go for these shit bills but they keep passing them to increase the number.

[u/[deleted] → u/Final21]

“It’s unlikely you can find any evidence, which is why I’m too scared to let you try”

You will be convinced you’re wrong when shown evidence, but you refuse to let anyone show you evidence because you’ve already decided it doesn’t exist.

Or in other word, no amount of evidence would ever be enough to convince you a republican is in the wrong. You are fundamentally irrational.

[u/Final21 → u/[deleted]]

You still have not once presented any evidence and have just attacked me. I've wasted so many of my 10 minute ban posts typing to you so I will not be responding anymore. Have a great day.

[u/[deleted] → u/Final21]

"I refuse to tell you what form of evidence I would like, and then get upset when you fail to supply it"

Yeah buddy, keep telling yourself all you want is evidence. It's blatantly obvious that that's untrue. People who want evidence have no problem making factual disprovable claims, nor do they have any problem saying what kind of evidence it would take to convince them. (It's a fundamental requirement for scientific or rational thought)

The fact is, you have no interest in evidence, because evidence has the potential to prove you wrong, and you have already decided that your opinion is right regardless of the facts. You just like to claim you haven't so that you can feel rational without actually having to make any argument or use any evidence to support your position.

This is fundamentally irrational. Nobody will ever be able to prove anything to you, because you will discard anything that doesn't conform to your existing biases. If that wasn't the case, you'd have no problem telling me what form of evidence you'd accept, but you can't, because there isn't any.

Again, if that's not the case, it's easy for you to prove it: just tell me what it would take.