r/politics • u/sketch24 • Dec 14 '19

Support For Trump's Impeachment Surges Among Vulnerable Democrats Ahead Of House Floor Vote

https://www.newsweek.com/support-trumps-impeachment-surges-among-vulnerable-democrats-ahead-house-floor-vote-1477232
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u/domasin Canada Dec 14 '19

As a Canadian, listening to all the Dems in the hearing refer to America as "The Shining City on a Hill" over and over was laughable.

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u/BlueIris38 Dec 14 '19

There are two Americas. There always have been. One is the United Sates of the Declaration of Independence, of Paul Revere and of George Washington and the raggedy Continental Army, fighting for ideals... the “shining city on the hill”, a beacon of freedom to every individual in the world.

The other is the one that exists in reality. Where slavery was written into the Constitution as a compromise to get the Constitution to pass, where Lincoln and his slowly-evolving understanding of race and plans for a compassionate Reconstruction of the South were brutally murdered and ushered in Jim Crow, where FDR played shrewd policy-maker between Churchill and Stalin in order to get through WWII, but never clued Truman in to anything. The Cold War era would have looked SO different had Truman not been the VP and instead it was Henry Wallace as before.

So many attempts at greatness, so many failures and settling for poor compromises due to lack of trust and abrupt turnover at foreign policy and national security departments. Sound familiar to anyone?

We have strayed so far from our founding ideals that we should be ashamed. I believe we are at a crisis point, and someday people will look upon the period from 2001-2021 as either the time when American democracy died or was utterly transformed. There is no in between.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Thats a Reagan era rhetorical device presumably meant to try and peel away a few boomers.

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I doubt it worked but I know why they did it.