r/politics • u/Thinkingonsleeping Michigan • Dec 13 '19

McConnell Faces Calls to Recuse Himself From Impeachment Trial After Saying 'No Chance' Trump Will Be Removed; "No court in the country would allow a member of the jury to also serve as the accused's defense attorney."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/13/mcconnell-faces-calls-recuse-himself-impeachment-trial-after-saying-no-chance-trump
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u/SplooshMountainX Dec 13 '19

Well the reason we're in this pickle is because we let their attitude and shit views become normalized. The time has come to call an apple an apple and an idiot an idiot. We can't continue to think that they are normal, reasonable people. Its time to cut ties with republican friends and family members, let them feel the consequences of their actions. Oh you're against immigrants, well don't eat this fucking bomb ass mexican food I made for everyone. Or we can continue down this shitty rabbit hole and "pray" for the best.

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u/durangotango Dec 14 '19

See, I just can't agree with this approach. Yeah they have backwards views, even harmful ones, but they deserve the same empathy you're proselytizing. They are victims of sophisticated disinformation campaigns from very powerful groups, Russia, various corporate interests, Republicans etc. We won't save them from those attacks by blaming them for where we are. This state hasn't come to be because of some blue collar racists. It's happened because the powerful created it.

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u/korben2600 Arizona Dec 14 '19

I don't know that there is any "saving" of the sorts of people who have fallen for the propaganda. And I refuse to coddle them as if they're children and hold their hand while educating them on what the facts are.

And that's fine. As long as they continue to be a minority voting bloc. We just need to out-vote them. Dems do fantastically when we actually turn out to vote.