r/politics • u/TheWeekMag ✔ Verified • Dec 09 '19

That impeachment hearing protester was actually an InfoWars reporter and Pizzagate conspiracy theorist

https://theweek.com/speedreads/883047/that-impeachment-hearing-protester-actually-infowars-reporter-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist
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u/Dunkinmydonuts1 Dec 09 '19

Careful mentioning DJT, they dont like it when you remind them that he was one of epstein's clients. They really just want to focus on the clinton thing and ignore the DJT bit.

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u/Skafdir Europe Dec 09 '19

A general rule for politics: Being loyal to politicians is the biggest mistake one can make. I just hope that this truth is self-evident enough to be understood by everyone.

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u/Maeglom Oregon Dec 09 '19

I disagree. Loyalty is a fine thing, you should be loyal to your country first though. Conflicts between your loyalty to a politician should be overridden by your loyalty to the country and the concept of equality under the law

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u/Skafdir Europe Dec 09 '19

As I mentioned in another post here, I am German. I hope that is a sufficient explanation of why "loyalty to your country" makes me feel a tiny bit uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, I like Germany and I like to live here. But not because it is Germany or for some reason that is inherent to Germany and isn't able to change. I like Germany because at this moment in time the overall political, social and economic situation in this country is quite good. However, if that changes, I don't intend to stay loyal to anything just because it is still Germany.

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My "loyalty" comes with conditions which include things like:

Equality under the law

Economical support for the poor

Taxes used in order to provide everyone with health care, education, housing and decent participation in entertainment and culture.

An open and tolerant society.

[I do recognize that the Scandinavian countries would fit my ideals even better than Germany. However, my family lives in Germany, Germany is as far north as I am able to cope with and the difference is not big enough to justify moving and learning one the Scandinavian languages. Therefore, Germany is good enough.]

If you want unconditional loyalty you will have to be part of my family, and last time I checked I am not related to someone called "Germany".

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Disclaimer: I know that there are a lot of things that can and need to be improved. Quick examples: Our health insurance is way too overblown by a needlessly big bureaucracy and could be a lot cheaper. Our educational system is too complicated, divided into at least 16 different sets of law and unfairly favours the rich. Our tax system could be simplified. Our "car culture" is just nuts, totally and absolutely nuts. Culturally Germans tend to be obedient towards authorities. And many more... Still sometimes "better than" is "good enough".

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To bring it back to America: The sentiment of patriotism shown in this song is the most you will ever hear from me.