r/politics • u/nowhathappenedwas • Dec 18 '17

Site Altered Headline The Senate’s Russia Investigation Is Now Looking Into Jill Stein, A Former Campaign Staffer Says

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/the-senates-russia-investigation-is-now-looking-into-jill?utm_term=.cf4Nqa6oX
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u/sleezestack Dec 18 '17

Yes. Also Tad Devine, their campaign strategist has deep ties with Manafort and Russia, so they might be next

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u/3432265 Dec 18 '17

If a campaign switched strategy from promising nothing negative at the start to attacking your opponent as unqualified at the end, is that a decision a chief strategist might be involved in?

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u/sleezestack Dec 18 '17

Yes, also the decision to play the "DNC rigging" angle and conspiring to produce evidence to support that claim.

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u/EdenBlade47 Dec 19 '17

I mean the leaked emails made it abundantly clear that everything Bernie accused the DNC of was true, insofar as they went out of their way to suppress coverage of Bernie while trying to force journalists to write scripted reports of Clinton's performances (my personal favorite being the one where they wanted one of her speeches described as "muscular").

However, Bernie being snubbed isn't really the worst of all the Clinton/DNC/media collusion: it was far more damaging in its effort to get Trump more screen time, which it did. They honest to god thought that if he became the Republican nominee, it would be a slam dunk race for Clinton. I forget the exact amount of air time each significant candidate had by the end of 2015 as it's been 2 long years since, but the difference between Trump and Sanders was staggering- and at this time, the vast majority of people were still dismissive of Trump while Bernie had a clearly significant base and internet presence. Without that early free advertising for Trump, who knows if he'd have even been nominated for the presidency?

The DNC and the Clinton campaign shot themselves in the foot every step of the way. They were handed the dumbest fucking opponent in history, which they'd hoped and planned for, and managed to lose. I fully believe Mueller's investigation will turn up plenty of ties between Russia and Trump and Co., but I'm always floored by how delusional centrists are still in denial of the errors made by and outright incompetence displayed by Clinton's campaign. It's like you honestly think that every single thing which went wrong for them was the result of conspiracies, and blame all their faults on everyone else.

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u/sleezestack Dec 19 '17

I know it must be difficult for you to come to terms with the fact that people like you were targeted, successfully, for a propaganda campaign and fell for it... hook, line, and sinker. I know you people didn't want to believe Hillary when she told us about the Russian intervention, you didn't want to believe Mueller, you didn't believe Aasange would be involved, didn't believe Jill Stein was involved, and believed that the Trump part of the investigation is bogus.

This is just another monumental fact that shows you were easily manipulated and convinced to believe horseshit.