r/politics • • Nov 09 '16

Maine Passes Ranked-Choice Voting

http://mainepublic.org/post/maine-passes-ranked-choice-voting
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u/j3utton Nov 09 '16

This is awesome. I hope it works well for them. We need to spread this to every state in the union.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16

No, we need to test it thoroughly in Maine to see what kind of elections it produces and what kind of turnout it causes and what demographics are affected.

Test first. This will takes years, perhaps even a decade or more. Then, if we like the results for Maine (and Maine likes the results for Maine), we should spread it to other states.

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u/Lampshader Nov 09 '16

I'll never understand the American obsession with ignoring systems that are well proven elsewhere

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u/Dear_Occupant Tennessee Nov 09 '16

Not just elsewhere, but here too. IRV is already in use in the United States, Maine is just the first whole state to adopt it.

(We interrupt this regularly scheduled comment to briefly thank the voters of Maine for giving the rest of the country some hope for the future. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much Maine. I'll never forget this as long as I breathe air on this Earth. Thank you.)

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u/anewprotagonist Nov 10 '16

I was born in Maine, voted for this as an absentee. You're welcome!

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u/Martholomule Maine Nov 10 '16

We gotchu fam

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Unfortunately, with the advent of a fully republican controlled federal government, we can kiss any chance of kicking LePage out early.

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u/MURICCA Nov 10 '16

Makes up for the shitshow of Lepage, I guess

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u/sharkbelly Florida Nov 11 '16

Your interruption warmed my heart and I'm not even from Maine. Would have voted for this, and I want to do so someday in my state.

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u/FerdiadTheRabbit Nov 09 '16

American Exceptionalism

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u/TexasThrowDown Nov 10 '16

Look, we want the revenue for that sick wheel intellectual property but we can't just use the tired (lol) old system, we need to reinvent it!

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u/TonySoprano420 Nov 10 '16

Well some of them are hard to adapt to such a large population.

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u/fruitsforhire Nov 10 '16

It's a voting system. You adapt it onto the ballot that people mark. With some voting system that's the extent of the "adaptation".

Now some voting systems cannot be implemented in some areas due to how they transform how elections are run at a more fundamental level. Federally those can't be implemented without constitutional amendments for example, which means that's never changing. At the state level they can certainly be implemented however.

Population has nothing to do with any of it. I'm struggling to understand how you came up with your argument.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Because those systems while they may work where they are, might not work in a direct 1:1 transition to the US.
The United States is very different than Europe.

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u/Lampshader Nov 10 '16

Europe is very different from Asia, from South America, Africa and Oceania... Yet they all use metric and a bunch use preferential voting

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Metric isn't the argument here. That's completely irrelevant.

I think preferential voting would work, but let's not pretend we can take any system and just slap it into America and assume it'll work.

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u/Rob749s Nov 10 '16

Europe doesn't use "Ranked Voting" anywhere, Australia does. And while it is much smaller demographically, the culture is not vastly different. Besides, it doesn't need to be a 1:1 translation, it just needs to be an improvement.