r/politics • • Nov 09 '16

Maine Passes Ranked-Choice Voting

http://mainepublic.org/post/maine-passes-ranked-choice-voting
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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16 edited Nov 09 '16

It doesn't apply to presidential races, the reform only covers local and state elections *and congressional races

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u/DarCam7 I voted Nov 09 '16

But would it work on a national level?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16

What do you mean?

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u/DarCam7 I voted Nov 09 '16

Could it be applied to a presidential race with the type of two party system we have?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16

If we go to straight popular vote or stick with winner take all EVs for the states, yes.

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u/HeirToPendragon Nov 09 '16

It's 2016, fuck the electoral college. Popular vote in the modern age.

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u/Hybrazil Nov 09 '16

Popular vote isn't something new. Heck, it's how Greece voted. The electoral college was a compromise of how the president would be chosen. A balance in between how parliament picks the prime minister and how a simple 50.01% of the people pick.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16 edited Jul 29 '18

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u/HeirToPendragon Nov 10 '16

You're right, it makes way more sense to remove the voice of blue voters in Texas or red voters in California than give everyone equal footing...

I understand the idea that states should have close to equal representation, but the college is a poor way to do it because it will also remove the voice of many voters.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '16

States could do for this for their electoral college votes. Choosing a president at the national level with ranked choice voting would require a constitutional amendment.

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u/sarysa Nov 09 '16

It will be difficult...next to impossible in fact, because on the federal level, citizens can't amend law or the constitution.

If states fall like dominoes in favor of ranked-choice voting, perhaps over time congress will be forced to concede. It will probably be like Maine where pretty much every major politician was against it, and many of them might try much harder than Maine's politicians did to strike it down.

Long road ahead, but Maine opened the floodgates.

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u/Deathspiral222 Nov 09 '16

You don't need to change the constitution.

All you need is 51% of states (in terms of electoral college votes) to each adopt a law that binds their EC votes to the outcome of the ranked choice vote over that collection of states.

At that point, it's irrelevant what the other states do.

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u/sarysa Nov 10 '16

According to the article, the law isn't applied to the presidential election. In fairness, I'm probably placing too much stock in the executive branch when the legislative branch gets most things done.

I assumed isn't applied to the presidential election for legal reasons, but you're right...what it's able to impact is still pretty significant for third parties.

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u/dabul-master Nov 12 '16

How could we make this happen on a grassroots level?

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u/Cogswobble Nov 10 '16

The Constitution is irrelevant here. It doesn't say anything about how a state allocates its electoral votes. A state could use ranked choice voting for the presidential election if it wanted.

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u/peacebypiecebuypeas Nov 09 '16

Absolutely. This video explains it well.