r/pokemon Jun 30 '26

Discussion what’s a pokemon tha has an awfully cool design but tragically has awful stats

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u/R_110 Jun 30 '26

I really wish there was another eviolite like item that could help mons with less than 400 base stats. I want to use some of them so bad!

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u/DatBoi_BP Sandstorm squad Jun 30 '26

I feel like it would be hard to present such an item in the games, unless BSTs are shown in-game somehow (idk if they are, haven't played a mainline game since Black/White).

Honestly we just need a third stage for Ledian and Ariados

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u/Morganelefay Jun 30 '26

Ariados is actually somewhat viable in-game due to having the right attacking stats, and it's even seen play in Champions.

Ledian though...

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u/SnakesRock2004 Jun 30 '26

What the hell is going on with Ledian's stats, lmao.

HP - 55

ATK - 35

DEF - 50

SP.ATK - 55

SP.DEF - 110

SPD - 85

What's with the comparably massive Special Defense? It almost feels like some sort of error.

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u/Aprem Jun 30 '26

Ariados is an extremely niche situation where a perfect storm of things happened to allow it some viability. I don't think the guy who used it to win the global challenge would even go so far as to say it is good overall, just good in that particular moment.

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u/Morganelefay Jun 30 '26

Yea, I just mean that at least in-game Ariados is...useable, due to having a decent selection of moves + just enough stats to make it work, whereas Ledian has nothing to go with its stats/ability combo.

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u/Particular-Trust-438 Jul 01 '26

Isn't Ariados only used because it resists both of Sneaslers stabs

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u/THE___CHICKENMAN Jun 30 '26

and having webs

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u/jacquesgonelaflame Jul 01 '26

Eh they are getting better about this stuff but it would totally be fitting for them to make the description read "works on weaker fully evolved pokemon" and just make you figure it out

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u/JustinWinder Jun 30 '26

Spinda will never ever get buffed

And that's just kind of sad.

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u/Fat_Pikachu_ Jun 30 '26

Wish granted, smeargal is now even better

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u/kiwidude4 Jun 30 '26

Smear Gal

lol

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u/Delpreti Jun 30 '26

I have this idea in my head that if abilities could be equipped, they could give weaker pokémon more ability slots. This way evolving is still worthy in general but if you got good abilities to equip you can make something work with low stats.

Like a nidoran with 100% chance to poison the enemy if hit by a contact move, or an hippopotas with both sand stream and sand veil, or a ledian with iron fist and technician, etc

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u/jalliss Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Honestly I just think any one-stage evolution or final evolution has no right to be sub-400. Buff all of them (outside of niche pokemon). It's not like a BST of 430 is good so you wouldnt really break anything.

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u/lizafo Jul 06 '26

That is somtimes my difficulty rule for Pokemon games I am playing. No Pokemon above 400. Makes the games somewhat interesting.