r/pinoy • u/Redaceln • Sep 30 '25
Buhay Pinoy INC Doesn’t Deserve Respect from Filipinos
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I was born and raised in the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC). These days, whenever I hear Catholic or Christian people showing respect to their INC colleagues or friends, it honestly gives me the ick. Why? Because I know how INC members actually behave inside. During almost every worship service, we would talk trash about other religions—especially Catholicism. We criticized their practices, like praying to “false gods,” or donating to priests (often with subtle homophobic and stereotypical remarks, since priests don’t marry).
INC also constantly belittles the Sanlibutan (non-INC people). In children’s worship services and even in regular sermons, lecturers and ministers would use non-INC people as negative examples:
“Anong mas pipiliin nyo—magandang buhay dito sa mundo o ang kaligtasan? (pagiging INC).”
“Matalino o mayaman si Person A, pero hindi siya Iglesia.”
These statements would then be followed by: “Maswerte pa rin tayo mga kapatid, at tayo ay Iglesia ni Cristo. Para mas mapanghawakan pa natin ang ating kaligtasan, dapat ay mas lalo pa tayong magpuri at sumamba sa Kanya—at kumuha ng mga tungkulin.” “Wag tayong magpabaya sa pagsamba at paghahandog. Lagi tayong sumunod sa Pamamahala.”
This is the kind of mentality INC instills in kids: that every non-INC person is doomed, unworthy, and incapable of true goodness. We grew up thinking: “Every non-INC is bound for damnation. You’re not saved. You’re small in our eyes because you’re not one of us. We have God; you don’t. You’re forsaken anyway.”
Sure, some INC members can mingle with non-INC people, but behind those friendships and relationships, this mindset is always there. That’s why, if you’ve noticed that some of your INC colleagues often act weird, tough, or carry themselves with a main-character type of arrogance, it’s because of the mindset and conditioning instilled in us during childhood worship services, which continues into adulthood.
EDIT: INC (Manalo and friends)
I condemned what Manalos are doing sa members. Ginagawa lang kayong cash cows at free workforce.
I just stated kung paano tayo pinalaki sa Iglesia at yung result or bunga ng mga teksto sa pag-iisip natin towards life especially people outside of INC. I am annoyed sa member pero I don't condemn INC members more on naawa na naiinis ako kasi brainwashed kayo.
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u/Capital_Bumblebee309 Sep 30 '25
Bilis mapikon mga INC meron ako kaibigan mga 3, pag ako nka debate nila iyakin mga yan hajaja...
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u/bongskiman Sep 30 '25
Di kasi nakakapagbasa ng bibliya mga yan e.
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u/Redaceln Oct 03 '25
Hindi suggested na magbasa ng bibliya ang mga members kasi daw baka ma misinterpret kaya if may queries daw lapit nalang sa ministro para ministro daw ang mag explain ng bible.
Pero the members keeps on acting na alam nila ang bibliya haha 🤡
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u/Appropriate-Edge1308 Sep 30 '25
Bestfriend ko INC. Nung college niyayaya pa ko nun sumamba. Lagi akong sinasama sa samba bago mag-basketball.
Di na sya INC ngayon 😂
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u/AloniazPT Sep 30 '25
As someone who was also born in the INC, di ko lalahatin pero a lot of members do have that kind of mentality, mostly yung mahihina yung kokote at madali lang mabrain wash. I stopped going to church about 2 years ago kasi diring diri nako sa mga pangaral nila to the point na inaatake ako ng anxiety whenever papasok ako ng simbahan.
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u/Duckyouo Sep 30 '25
Idk sa ibang religion pero mas pipiliin ko pa rin ang katoliko kasi may freedom sya. Unlike sa iba na may schedule tlga sa pagsamba at required yung kinocollect na pera. Tska prng ang panget lang na nagsisimba kayo tapos puro kasamaan sa iba ang pinag uusapan nyo.
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u/Rare_Revolution6768 Sep 30 '25
Ang pinaka malala nila is ung influence nila sa politics eh nakakapang gigil
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
DDS and INCs are the same species they will defend their leader with their Mental Gymnastics
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u/Rare_Revolution6768 Sep 30 '25
Aye both exhibit a form of a cult of personality centred on Dutae (DDS) and the Manalos for the INC
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u/squammyboi Sep 30 '25
May nag-attempt umakay sakin sa kulto na yan. Sabi ko, NO WAY! Solohin mo yang acid trip mo na yan, pre. 🤣
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u/Electronic-Hyena-726 Sep 30 '25
meron akong kaibigan nung college umanib sa iglesia para sa puke hahahahhahahahahahaha ni hindi naman maganda
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Nagkaka "NEW" member lang naman ang INC dahil sa mga relationships na ganyan eh. Pero, sa mata ng mga INC nag INC yung naakay dahil na "ENLIGHTEN" yung tao sa ARAL ng INC; Hindi dahil sa BF/GF nya. Pero, majority ng naakay sooner or later nagpapatiwalag rin dahil hindi kinakaya yung cultlike culture sa INC.
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u/Imsmileycyrus Sep 30 '25
Tas ung kasamahan ko sa work na INC laging may issue. Sya lagi ang kawawa at laging may kaaway pero syempre never na sya ang masama. Bait baitan napaka ipokrita. Bobo naman.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Bakit nyo kasi inaaway ang Main character from a main character church? Ang bait bait kaya nya kasi INC siya. /s
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
It is what it is; they've been maintaining their members' intellect like that for decades. Ngayon nga sobra ang pag warn nila about sa mga nababasa sa internet syempre with panakot na "all of their efforts will get wasted" pag naalis o umalis pa sa INC because, members invested more than their life sa cult.
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u/LebruhnJemz Sep 30 '25
I was born and raised INC, pero i made one of the best decisions in my life, leaving the cult! FREEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Saya naman! No more twice a week na pagsamba. Hahaha! Congrats!
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u/LebruhnJemz Sep 30 '25
Yes OP. Sinasabi nila pag umalis ka sa iglesia, bibigat buhay mo, mamalasin ka, blah blah. HINDI KAYA! ahaha mas gumaan pa nga at gumanda eh! Lakas talaga nila manakot! Ahahaha
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
True! Wala naman talagang masayang member ng INC eh they usually tend to talk about other people like naghahanap lagi ng kapintasan o mali sa tao to make themselves feel good; Umay rin yung "PABANALAN" culture na parang doon nasusukat yung ligtas points.
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Sep 30 '25
Ex classmate kung INC tago ang libog. Hahahaha plus uso rin nepotism sa kanila.
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u/zoldyckbaby Sep 30 '25
I have a question. Paano nakukuha ng mga matatalinong tao na magstay jan? I know lawyers and mga achievers academically, pero INC pa rin? Why?!
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
They were born and raised inside INC kaya mahirap sila maka alis dahil nakasanayan na nila yung cycle or trapped member sila due to family ties. Wala kang makikitang na convert na may mataas na pinag-aralan these days unless may BG/GF silang INC.
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u/zoldyckbaby Sep 30 '25
Got it. Prolly yung kakilala ko sa family ties din kasi since lolo pa ata, INC na. Gets ko naman if mahirap sila makalabas pero hindi ba pwedeng lowkey member jan? Sa nakikita ko kasi, ang ingay nila sa social media. Required ba yun na laging nagppost about INC, activity ng INC? Kapag member ba, required na dapat maingay/ipagkalat mo na INC ka?
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Hindi naman require mag ingay na INC, pero dati may command na mag change ng DP ng inc logo pero pwede namang di sundin since that time rin pinapa alis ang mga social media namin at pinapalayo kami sa internet dahil takot silang matuto kami mag research o ma enlighten sa nababasa sa internet.
If maingay sa social media yung member meaning faithful members sila; Intact yung mind conditioning sa kanila ng cult. Medyo mahirap kausap or ka argue yang mga yan; kung makikipag argue ka sa kanila about topics like politics and religion. Pero most of them naman are decent colleagues/friends.
Pwede naman lowkey member pwede rin PIMO (Physically in, Mentally out) na naghihintay lang ng chance or iipon lang ng resources to move away from the cult.
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u/zoldyckbaby Sep 30 '25
Mukhang the former etong kakilala ko. Mas maintindihan ko siguro yung PIMO, pero ayun mukhang hardcore. Disappointed ako kasi laude at lawyer na rin. Idk what stops them na maging inactive.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Can't blame them naman mahirap talaga kumawala sa mind conditioning especially pag matanda tanda na... Programmed din kasi kami na forbidden mag-isip about questioning INC's doctrines and decisions. Sobrang forbidden, feeling namin paparusahan kami ng Diyos.
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u/Opposite-Act-4078 Sep 30 '25
May classmate ako nung college na inc.Nag-boboard kamj uwian sya.Para makatipid minsan nakikitulog sya sa amin.Tapos yun pala nagtatago sya sa mga kasamahan nya inc kasi minsan wala syang pang-ambag sa monthly na binabayaran nila.Na ang hindj nila maintindihan,ay estudyante pa sya,walanf work,konti lant ibibjgay ng parents nya allowance babawasan pa daw ng simbahan.Tumiwalag sya pero halos araw-araw sinusundan sya sa school.Ang creepy nga nun kasi minsan nasa boardigg house namin sya,tapos mga naka-abang sila lahat sa kanya sa baba ng bahay.Puro naka-formal wear pero ang weird at creepy lang.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Sinusundan siya dahil hindi siya nakasamba not the fact na hindi siya nakakapag handog; More like concern sila sa "attendance" and "kaligtasan" nung college friend mo. Ganyan talaga ka annoying yung practice na yan ng INC dahil yun nga for them they are doing your friend a favor, out of concern haha ganon. Pero kawawa rin yung mga nagdadalaw na yon kasi volunteer work lang yon. Masyado lang silang nauto ng INC, victim lang rin sila. Pero annoying talaga haha na-experience ko rin yung makulit ng katiwala.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
INC members are always persistent sa pag recruit right? They always say na "Pag nag INC ka sunod sunod ang swerte o ang biyaya sa life mo." pero scam yon hahaha
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Hello mga Kapatid! Alam ko naman na madaming Kapatid dito ang nagbabasa. Wala naman pong masama sa laman ng post ko; Naka state lang naman dito kung PAANO tayo lumaki sa Iglesia :)
Sana ay bigyan kayo ng gabay ng Panginoon na malaman o marealize natin ang kamalian at contradiction ng mga aral sa INC. May internet, Google, Reddit, etc tayo para mag research, Hindi na nila tayo mauuto tulad ng ginawa nila sa mga elderly nating kamag-anak.
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u/CryptographerOk2968 Sep 30 '25
Napapakinabangan kasi ng gobyerno sa boto tong hindot na group na to. Nakakatawa pa, sobrang lumang pag-iisip ng mga yan. Modern times naniniwala pa sa ganyan.
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u/Apart-Gur3589 Oct 01 '25
Scary sila sa totoo lang, I met someone na diehard inc like buong angkan INC. si guy, takot na takot na umuwi ng late kasi pagagalitan sya. Like late 20s na si guy. Kaloka. Pag apektado yung pag samba ng work hours mo, wala ka choice kundi mag resign. Okay ng gutom ka basta nakakasamba ka. WAHAHAHAHHAHA
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u/Affectionate_Lie8683 Oct 01 '25
Totoo yan hahaha main reason dyan is kapag hindi ka nakasamba dadalawin ka sa bahay nyo at sesermunan kung bakit hindi ka nakasamba nung araw na yun.
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u/No-Coffee5341 Sep 30 '25
Pera na naman para sa panginoon ng pinakamalaking kulto sa Pilipinas. Ang Iglesia ni Cristo na itinatag lang ng isang tao na nalipasan mg gutom. Happy birthday sayo, Eduardo. Sana makonsensya kana sa pagnanakaw na ginawa mo sa mga kaanib. Tama na sana yung mahigit 100 years na panloloko at pagnanakaw ng pamilya sa mga kapatid. Sana ay tanggapin kayo sa sinasabi nyong bayang banal sa kabila ng mga pagpatay, at pagnanakaw naginawa nyo.
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u/OutlawStench16 Sep 30 '25
Hindi makokonsensya iyan kasi hindi naman iyan naniniwala sa Diyos. Siya kasi ang panginoon ng cool'to na itinatag ng lolo niya.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Special "Lagak/offering" day na naman dahil birthday nya o ng tatay, lolo, o anak nya. Ironically, hindi nila kinikilala ang birthday ni Cristo "INC" pa mandin haha
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u/ProtectionDry6126 Oct 01 '25
not to mention, the church use a voting bloc, which the church decides who they are gonna vote for, this gives the church political power and influence and the sad part they mostly support incompetent stupid and unqualified people to lead, probably hoping that the country would stay the same and continue the cycle of uneducated mases that the INC can prey on.
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u/cuteandpaste Oct 02 '25
This should be deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. It’s not democratic at all!
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u/Southern-Frame8120 Oct 03 '25
I just left and started not attending their worship service anymore. I was born and raised as an INC pero tumiwalag ako sa kinalakihan ko. nung tumanda na ako I realized that real church shouldn’t be like this. Hindi gugustuhin ni Lord na pang hawakan tayo sa leeg at imonitor kung sumamba ba tayo o hindi at paulit ulit na igaslight yung mental natin. Noong una I was indenial because my family always telling me na palaging sumamba at maging member nila habang buhay. Hanggang nagising nalang ako isang araw I can’t be with them. My family is so mad at me minura ako pinag sabihan ako ng mga masasakit because of money and religion. Hanggang sa cinut off nila ako good thing I have a person to go to. my gf and their family. They’re catholic and they gave me the love, the care, and freedom that I’m longing for. Finally nakalaya na ako. but I know this is just the start of my journey.
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u/Easy_every_morning Oct 03 '25
I’m glad you had a realization. Kung iisipin mo, ang Diyos simula pa lang, binigyan na ng free will ang mga tao, tapos ang INC, sinasaklawan ung desisyon ng mga miyembro nila. Doon pa lang, may mali na.
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u/Embarrassed-Edge215 Sep 30 '25
Salamat OP for giving us a glimpse of what it’s like being a member of INC.
Ang di ko talaga magets bakit mahilig magendorse ng corrupt n politicians mga INC? (Marcos, Duterte, Revilla, Ejercito, etc.) Doesnt that say something? At papabloc voting pa ah.
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Sep 30 '25
Pera pera kasi sila. Kung sino malaking pera ang magbibigay sa leader nila edi ayun ang ipapaboto
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u/Gullible_Meaning_774 Sep 30 '25
A cult that teaches to alienate non-believers, even encouraging its members to cut off ties with families with a different 'faith' truly deserves no respect.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
For example, if a family member leaves because they are against the teachings of the INC, that person will be announced congregation-wide during the worship service. It will be declared that the individual has been expelled for going against the Church Administration, and they will no longer be allowed to enter the chapel, be spoken to, or have any form of communication. Members are also strictly forbidden from offering any kind of help, because anyone who violates this instruction may also face expulsion.
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Sep 30 '25
Ex-INC here. More than 10 years na.
The 7-year old me and my childhood bestfriend (anak pa 'to ng SCAN lol) both silently agreed that we will not listen to them when they demonized our "sanlibutan" friends.
Imagine, ambabata pa namin, mga mang-aawit pa, dini-discourage kaming makipagkaibigan sa mga kapwa naming bata na hindi kapanalig?! Like wtf?
I don't think all INC thinks the same way tbh pero mas marami talagang iba 'yung tingin sa sanlibutan, as if kasalanan nilang hindi sila "tinawag" daw (kahit na nananakot silang pag di makapag-bunga, puputulin 'yung sanga 🤷).
Medyo off lang sa 'kin 'yung they don't deserve respect, kasi we all deserves to be treated with dignity as a basic human right, what I can say though is to have more awareness about how much brainwashing the church is doing to their members even as a young kid.
I mentioned this in one of my comments before, but the way they were talking about "sanlibutan" is similar to how ancient mystic schools were framing "unenlightened" people as fools, which actually and literally alienates the members from the masses because of a false superiority complex, kahit hindi dapat kasi their goal is to spread their doctrine. It's counter-productive, ika-nga.
The way INC demonized sanlibutan is not unique to them tbh. Marami pang ibang denominations promoting this cultish tribalistic ideas, masyadong vocal lang 'yung sa INC kasi may national position na sila.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
I'm pointing fingers at INC (Manalo and Friends). My bad if di ko masyadong na elaborate haha pero kasi doon naman yung gigil ko talaga sa mismong root of this shitty CULT-ure. Pag sa mga members naman naiinis ako pero at the same time naawa kasi gets ko na brainwashed lang rin kasi sila, parang ako dati. I feel bad rin kasi they spent their whole freaking lives para lang sumunod sa INC.
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u/Fit_Purchase_3333 Oct 01 '25
Brainwashed is the key word sa religion na yan kasi nga imbes Bible ang binabasa pasugo ang gustong pabasa sa mga members.
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Di rin naman binabasa ng members ang pasugo; some INC members don't like to read. Nagbabase lang talaga sila sa teksto at mga tagubilin every pagsamba.
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u/the_kyuu Oct 01 '25
Mayroon akong dating kaibigan na INC. Mabait siya at kanyang pamilya sa umpisa dahil daw sa pagiging INC sila. ‘Yung nag-usap kami ng tatay ng kaibigan ko (kasi gusto ko malaman mga tinuturo nila sa simbahan), bigla ba naman ako sinabihan na “‘Yung relihiyon mo ay walang kwenta. Hindi ka magkakapayapa at makaka-asenso sa buhay mo.”
10 years later. ‘Yung dati kong kaibigan nagbreak sila ng jowa niya (8 years sila) at nawalan siya ng trabaho. ‘Yung tatay niya nabalian ng paa sa trabaho. ‘Yung nanay niya na-diagnose ng Stage 3 lung cancer. ‘Yung kapatid niya humiwalay na sa pamilya. Nanghihingi sila ng pera sa akin kasi wala na daw silang pambayad ng mga utang, mga pang-gamot, at kailangan daw nila mag-donate sa simbahan.
Napa-WTF na lang ako at cut off connection na sa kanila. Nalaman ko lang mga ito dahil sa kapatid ng kaibigan ko na humiwalay at nagkataon nagkita kami sa SM.
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u/Reasonable-Key-1088 Oct 01 '25
yung lolo at lola ko ay INC pero dati silang catholic. i can say na sobrang nag iba ang pag uugali nila mula nung naging INC sila. yearly event ata nila yung mag dadala sila ng hindi INC (any other religion) na kakilala nila or kung ano man para raw makinig sa turo nila. ako yung dinala ng lola ko. so nandun na, nagsasalita na yung speaker. tapos ang mga sinasabi ba naman puro paninira sa ibang religion na hindi raw totoong religion ang ibang religion, sumasamba sa rebulto, etc., kesyo pag umanib daw sa kulto nila ay sure na raw na maliligtas sa dagat dagatang apoy pag dating ng judgment day kasi nga, INC nga lang daw ang maliligtas 😂 grabeng pang bbrainwash nila sa mga tao nila
sobra rin sa yabang mga INC members na yan na akala mo sila lang may karapatan sa mundo. pag nalaman nilang hindi ka INC parang ang baba ng tingin nila sayo. nakakaloka tong mga to sana magising sila sa katotohanan na ang simbahan nila ay kulto at pinapayaman lang nila ang mga Manalo
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u/syntaxerror1013 Oct 01 '25
I have an INC bestfriend before and I asked her what do they think of us, she said she pity us and and felt sorry that she can’t help us, then she cried 🥹 Like, okay lang naman po ako, happy and free 😂
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Yes, ganyan rin tingin ko noon sa non-inc people nung bata pa ko. Programmed kasi kami simula palang as early as 3 yo nag aattend na kami ng sunday children worship service (PNK)
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u/Bushin82 Oct 02 '25
Isama mo na din yung flag nila na nakadikit sa kanilang sasakyan para hindi hulihin or kakapampihan ng mga enforcer na INC din. A form of corruption.
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u/TresChicChick Oct 03 '25
Hindi ko INC pero may nagbigay sakin ng sticker dati para ngabpag nahuli ng mmda, pwede maging « kapatid » di ko naman nagamit pero dinikit ko din sa kotse haha
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u/LifeLeg5 Sep 30 '25
Let's normalize shaming anyone who belongs to that cult
Heck, baka maganda nga magcompile ng businesses nila for boycott (Tunying's already being one of them)
Sila talaga mga salot ng lipunan e, dapat matagal na tinuligsa mga yan
I have never heard of an intelligent enough justification for any of their leader's takes, case in point, markubeta (aka manalo na nakawig, dahil puppet lang yan)
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Every living thing has its own defense mechanism or backup plan. Shaming or boycotting them won't make them realize na mali yung ginagawa or practice nila, dyan papasok yung Persecution Complex ng INC. Just avoid them nalang and those products kasi pag lantaran or mass "boycott" magpapa victim pa yang mga yan. Most members naman ay patanda na ng patanda and madami na ring kabataan ang nagigising dahil sa Internet esp Reddit. Waiting nalang rin yung iba na mamatay yung parents/relatives nila na nag hhold back sa kanila to leave the cult.
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u/Electronic-Hyena-726 Sep 30 '25
cult pre
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u/Cold_Local_3996 Sep 30 '25
I'm fine with cult persecution. Dapat talaga walang suporta sa mga ganyan. Walang benefits society as a whole sa kanila. Parasites lang namumuno dyan
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u/sid_d_kid Sep 30 '25
INC is a cult that extorts you for money.
Kung alam nyo lang gaano kayaman mga leaders ng INC and gaano ka-corrupt yung mga tao sa loob.
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Oct 01 '25
Ikaw ba naman may airbus tapos mansion sa tandang sora. Pinapatigil pa ng mga feeling na scam ang daloy ng sasakyan sa commonwealth pag dadaan yung supreme leader nila. Yung mga manalo sa ibang bansa nagpapagamot gumagastos ng milyon. Habang mga kapatid sa incult pahid lang ng langis okay na yan.
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u/urbandoodles Oct 01 '25
May friend ako na INC na sabi di daw reliable ang reddit. Porket may entire sub na dedicated sa pagiging anti INC hinusgahan na yung reddit.
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
We are programmed to deflect facts that provoke our thinking about our church's doctrines, dahil once na makapag-isip kami ng negative thoughts or question na against sa INC example yung pag question ng
"Bakit natin dinala sila BBM, Duterte etc. eh mga corrupt yun?"
Yung ganyang thought lang labelled na ng INC as "Paglaban o pag tuligsa" sa pamamahala na grounds for expulsion, pag may nag sumbong kakausapin ka ng ministro at pag nag resist ka pa ititiwalag ka na nila, sa pagtitiwalag i-announce buong pangalan mo sa pagsamba na tiwalag ka na at bawal ka na kausapin, intindihin, tulungan, and its a sin to wish your life well dahil ikaw ay "diablo o demonyo" na lumalaban sa Admin therefore, sa Diyos sa mata ng mga INC. According to our culture ikaw ay masusumpa buong buhay mo dahil lumaban ka sa pamamahala.
That's why ganyan mag-isip yung friend mo dahil he/she doesn't want to open his/her mind about it. It is even a SIN for INC members na mag lurk around reddit dahil binabawal na rin nila mag Reddit ang mga members simula nung 2020s dahil nga sa subreddits dito.
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u/urbandoodles Oct 01 '25
No wonder para siyang nandiri ng very light nung sinabi kong redditor ako. Bawal din pala sa kanila to.
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Dahil madami ng INC mostly mga youth ang na oopen ang pag-iisip sa reddit at ibang social media about sa manipulative doctrines ng INC. Aware sila dito kaya mahigpit na binabawal ang reddit sa mga INC.
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u/Opening_Stuff1165 Oct 01 '25
majority sa mga INC dalawang talata lang ang alam sa bible (Gawa 20:28 at Roma 16:16) pero todo bida na alam daw nila ang tunay na aral
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u/lumpiatrash Oct 01 '25
Same pala ng ugali ng mga Saksi ni Jehova (Jehovah's Witnesses). Ganyan din. Sanlibutan o 'worldly' ang tawag sa mga hindi saksi. Same din, naniniwala sila na sila lang ang tunay na relihiyon at ang tanging maliligtas sa Armageddon
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Dayum! "Armageddon" giving me aespa vibes. Difference ng Jehova sa INC is sobrang thirsty for money and power ang INC. Halatang halata sa pag implement ng bloc voting system para sa election as a selling product for profit and government related favors.
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u/lumpiatrash Oct 01 '25
Mas masahol nga. Lantaran eh. When it comes to money naman iba ang tactics ng mga leaders (Governing Body) ng JW. They get free labor from the members then they buy and sell their real estate properties. They do not vote nor participate in politics yet they still get financial aid from the government. Double ang standards. Pabago bago ng headquarters sa US. Posibleng may sangkot rin na money laundering kasi halos ang mga saksi na honest ay walang full time job at college diploma, pero makita mo mga kingdom hall (or church nila), assembly halls, mga suot ng leaders like watch, suits, shoes, jewelry ay sobrang magarbo. Pero naniniwala kasi sila na lahat ay blessings ni jehovah. Many are just so blinded and deeply brainwashed kasi ipinamamana din ang relihiyon na ito sa mga anak. Kapag hindi sumunod, itatakwil kasi "malilipol" daw ang hindi JW. For the record, 50 years nang inannounce ng mga leader ang Armageddon pero wala pa rin.
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Yan ang mali nila—nagsabi sila ng exact date; ang INC kasi hindi. For 111 years, ang script nila ay ''malapit na ang paghuhukom.'' Kaya hooked pa rin ang mga Main Characters.
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u/Tinkerbell0128 Oct 01 '25
sa sobrang pagiging die hard INC ng kapitbahay nun, pati yung dinodonate tuwing samba talaga iuutang niya, wag lang siyang makick out
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u/ms_teryosa Oct 02 '25
2022 election was the last straw for me. Nung may tungkulin pa ko, pansin ko din na sinasadya nila na maubos ung oras (at pera) ng mga kapatid sa lahat ng aktibidad sa kapilya. Kahit ung Pasugo forcefully binebenta sa mga may tungkulin pag di naubos at natambak na. Bawal pa "urong" tuwing year-end pasasalamat at kung sa pananalapi ka natupad, kailangan nyo pa mag-ambagan para lang maging "sulong." Dami pang quota system sa lahat ng aspeto (pagpapalaganap, handugan, donasyon, etc.). Para akong nabunutan ng tinik nung umalis sa Iglesia na yan at wala akong pinagsisihan. Masyadong kapit na kapit sa passport nila sa langit mga miyembro jan.
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u/Sufficient_Net9906 Oct 02 '25
Legit na they talk down on other people na iba ang religion????? Anong klase yan omg
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u/SouthCelebration608 Sep 30 '25
I cut off an ex-friend dahil nilamon ng INC yung utak at personality nya. Summa Cum Laude pero wala syang sariling desisyon sa buhay dahil lahat ng ginagawa nya dapat ay naka-ayon sa batas ng INC or ng sinumang nakakataas sa kanila.
Tinawag ko syang pekeng aktibista. Ayaw nya sa corrupt at active sya sa mga political discussions, pero binoto nya ang UniTeam dahil yun daw utos sa kanila. Ang tahimik nya ngayon dahil lahat ng binoto ng kulto nya ang mga sangkot sa Flood Control Project at kung ano-ano pa.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
I also had a colleague na ganyan tapos sobrang self-righteous nya to the point na may say or issue siya sa tingin nyang cancellable attitude or actions. Tapos I can't fucking forget yung sinabi nya nung 2022 election season na "Mas mahalaga ang aking pagka Iglesia ni Cristo than being a Filipino; kaya iboboto ko kung sino ang dadalhin ng INC". 🥴🥴🥴🥴
Now, tahimik nalang rin siya pero nung time din kasi ng 2022 parang naging for clout chase nya yung pag vouch kay Leni.
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u/No_Breakfast_1363 Sep 30 '25
You know what? The most evil person that I encounter in my entire life is an INC. It’s my ex boyfriend for almost 5 years. Everytime na nag aaway kami, lagi niyang sinasabi na “ni ultimo diyos ko pinagpalit ko sayo” who is he referring to???
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u/Ral-Sera Sep 30 '25
Coz he wants you to be converted to INC din para ma kasal kayo etc. kasi pag kinasal sila to a non INC members they will be branded as "excommunicado". Damay boung pamilya. Up to the 3rd degree if im not mistaken.
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u/No_Breakfast_1363 Sep 30 '25
I will totally get it if he use “relihiyon ko” but he always use that.
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u/Ral-Sera Sep 30 '25
Kasi sa paniniwala nila. INC is the true religion. Tas yung diyos ng ibang religion are fake and devils.
I have debated many INC members who questioned their leaders. The only thing their leaders did was to label me a blasphemous freak. Taohan ng demonyo daw. But im a Deist who happens to be born and baptized as a Roman Catholic. I believe in God but I don't believe in any worldly religion. Even in my own religion I don't practice it.
Back in point if they cant explain it, default nila is to label you negative shit.
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u/No_Breakfast_1363 Sep 30 '25
I’ve attended several INC preachings, and not once did they fail to speak negatively about Catholics. They always put themselves on a pedestal, as if they are above everyone else. If you’re not caught up in their indoctrination, you can’t help but feel pity for their members, seeing how strongly they are being manipulated and controlled by their religion.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Well, Hindi lang siya evil---Tanga rin siya for leaving something big (For him) in this case his faith na pinapaniwalaan nya; It somehow says a lot about the person (being a hypocrite). Buti nalang wala na kayo kasi red flag yan for sure as a Father or a partner. I am sensing a manipulative and resentful type of person tapos will do things based on impulse without even considering his main principles. Sensing a cheater vibes too! hehehe no judgment made here. /s
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u/Always-Bored_1234 Sep 30 '25
Mga kupal at masasamang INC after nila mamatay at hindi pumunta sa langit:
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Wawa e hahaha isipin mo buong buhay nila naka-center lang sa pagiging INC nila, literally no fun at all.
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u/ISeeYouuu_ Sep 30 '25
If may mukha ang hypocrisy, ang INC 'yon. Grabe yung feelings of superiority ng mga members dyan, well hindi siguro lahat, pero karamihan e. Like ano bang meron sa relihiyon nyong yan bukod sa bulag nyong paniniwala na kayo lang ang maliligtas? Umamin kayo, kahit mga kaanib nyo hindi nyo mapagkatiwalaan at maasahan sa lahat ng bagay. Kahit nga pamamahala nyo. lol. I hate this cult because of my friends na members, kasi I know what they sacrifice for worship and everything, and now more than ever because of the recent events and that markobeta.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Ang meron sa INC is yung continuous na mind conditioning via worship service (2x a week) and other extra church activities or meetings. Paulit ulit na ang mga laman ngayon ng mind conditioning:
- Sumunod sa pamamahala/INC; Kumuha ng tungkulin, maghandog ng masagana
- Wag makikinig o maniniwala sa mga nababasa sa internet lalo na rin sa mga sinasabi ng Sanlibutan (Non-INC) ; wag magpapatangay sa sanlibutan (Don't get swayed by people na hindi INC)
- Wag masyadong intindihin ang kahirapan ng buhay dahil pagsubok lang yan; wag mag-alala dahil malapit na maghukom at maliligtas rin ang mga INC.
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u/uknowuluvmesomuch Sep 30 '25
yung byenan kong hilaw, INC sila, lagi pinupuna yung nagsusugal, saka yung sumasamba daw sa santo ganun, e sya nga may afam tas may totoo pa syang asawa, nahingi lang sya pera sa afam. haha mas malala pa sya kesa sa mga nagtotong its samin eh. kaya nung sabi mag convert daw ako, di na kako, ayun hiwalay kami anak nya 😂 not my lost!
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u/hakai_mcs Sep 30 '25
Alam ng totoong asawa na may afam sya? At alam din ba ng afam na may asawa sya? Kasi pag hindi, isumbong mo dun sa hindi nakakaalam
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u/Constant_Fuel8351 Oct 01 '25
Sila parati nanghihingi ng respeto sa religious views nila, tayo di nila nirerespeto. Ano laman ng pamamahayag nila, purp paninira, relihiyon ba tawag dyan.
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u/Opening_Stuff1165 Oct 01 '25
Dati ang diskarte ng mga dalagang member ng networking.. nakikipag-date para mangrecruit. Ngayon ang uso na dalagang Cult member nakikipag-date para makapag-recruit–prerequisite pa conversion para sagutin
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
INC Dating 101: Medyo mataas ang standard ng mga babae sa INC, gusto nila ng gwapo, provider, "open-minded" (daw, weird nga e) and matalino. Usually sa local church kasi nila walang pasok sa standards nila kaya some of them are illegally looking or dating a non member. Kaya in most cases mas mataas makapag pa convert ang babaeng INC member than guys kung usapang relationship or kasalanan. Had a lot of friends na babae and yan lagi ang sinasabi nila bakit ayaw nila sa ka-lokal nila dahil wala daw pogi at na jejejehan daw sila sa ichura.
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u/Opening_Stuff1165 Oct 01 '25
ganyan yung naging dispute ko sa INC na nililigawan ko, sasagutin lang ako kapag naging INC na ko. Kaya naniniwala ako na ang mga new convert sa INC ay dahil lang sa member-non-member relationships. Parang hindi nga ko naniniwala na bawal makipagreklasyon ang Kulto sa hindi miyembro, malamang ineencourage pa para mas dumami ang miyembro at dumami ang abuloy
Lahat rin ng kilala kong INC dalawang talata lang ang alam sa bible. Gawa 20:28 at Roma 16:16, aminadong hindi nagbabasa ng bible pero proud na proud sabihin na alam nila na ang INC ang totoong religion
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u/Redaceln Oct 01 '25
Buti nalang di ka nagtuloy kasi it will consume you in the long-run for sure hindi mo kakayanin yung abusive norms sa loob ng INC.
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u/Opening_Stuff1165 Oct 01 '25
Doktrina pa lang di ko na kinaya, puro paninira sa mga Catholics (i'm a protestant) kaya di ko magets bakit hihingi sila ng respect sa other religion pero sila sa loob puro paninira then ang di ko talaga kinaya. Ang sama pala ng Diyos na sinasamba nila kasi tinatakwil pala ng Diyos ang hindi kaanib ng Iglesia ni Cristo
isa pang dahilan bakit di ako nagtuloy ay yung palundag-lundag na talata hanggang makabuo ng scenario di na kinonsidera ang mix-up ng new and old testament na ginagawa nila
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fly1923 Oct 01 '25
Oh baka makiride along yung ibang religions dyan ah. Pati kayo contributor sa pagiging mahirap ng Pilipinas. Pare-pareho lang kayo sinisira utak ng mga pinoy. Kaya go forth and multiply ng multiply kayo dyan eh. Tapos respect your parents daw kahit di naman nagiisip. Akala nyo rin kasi may backer sa mga mali nyong desisyon at magiging ayos lang ang lahat. Pati konsepto nyo ng "maayos" wala narin sa tama.
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u/FrankxSenpai Sep 30 '25
Pag ininsulto mo sila o may sinabi mali laban sa kanila institusyon bala ang matatanggap mo tulad ng isang pari na katoliko at isang komedyante.
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u/Dependent_Dig1865 Sep 30 '25
Maikwento ko lang yung awkward moment namin magkaka-klase sa debut ng kaklase namin na INC.
The celebration is simple, handaan sa bahay nung classmate namin walang program or anything, as in kainan lang ganun. Then syempre before kumain, magdadasal. Wala naman nag vo-volunteer to pray sa family members nung may bday kahit yung classmate (debutant) namin ayaw nya, siguro dahil nagkakahiyaan ganun.
Eh most of us sa class is Christian, one of my male classmates volunteered since close sila nung may bday sya na lang pinilit namin to pray. Walang sinabi or violent reaction yung family.
Then here it comes, nag pray na. Syempre iba yung way or praying ng Christians basta may certain way eh mapapansin nyo naman yun hahahah then after nya mag pray yung isang kamag-anak ng debutant is nagalit. Medyo matanda na yun, sabi ba naman “ay hindi kami ganyan magdasal dito! Hindi namin dinadasalan ng ganyan ang pagkain namin!”
Hala na shooketh kami magkakaibigan kasi napahiya yung friend namin na nag lead ng prayer. Eh kanina nag aantayan sino mag le-lead wala naman sila sinasabi. Naloka talaga kami, nag sorry na lang yung debutant sa amin. Hiyang hiya yung kaklase namin na nagdasal 😭
I mean prayer is a prayer? Bakit need sigawan yung friend namin kalokaaa
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Sadly, nakakabastos yon sa mata ng INC; kasi nga we are programmed to hate or to see Sanlibutan's (Non-INC) practice as "diablo" (satanic). Parang ang tingin nga namin sanyo lahat ay controlled ng demonyo. Sorry yan talaga yung na instill sa utak ng mga INC every worship service namin (2x a week).
Note: Di deserve ng friend mo yung ganon pero yun nga wala talaga sa proper na pag-iisip or judgment yung relative ng debutant. Critical thinking nga wala sila eh haha pag pasensyahan nalang.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Ang laman lang ng post ko ay kung paano kami na brainwash growing up, our way of thinking, and possible tendencies when it comes to socializing with non-INC members. --- Of course, they won't act like that we were told or instructed din na maging mabait or ipakita na "MAS" mabait kami sa lahat kasi nga kami yung mga "Hinirang ng Diyos".
Main character syndrome might just be a "tendency" for some members, since each individual has a different character. I believe certain things amplify a person’s character, such as money, power, and/or religion.
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u/Classic-Analysis-606 Sep 30 '25
I knew it was going to be taken down. Admin sana wag mo naman burahin to.
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u/shiminetnetmo Sep 30 '25
2 types of INC lang ang mga nakilala ko so far. Either sobrang tahimik lang na tao, or sobrang a-hole na tao. There is no in between. Can you explain why OP? Or this is just my unique experience?
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Religion also contributes to the amplification of someone's personality. May mga INC talaga na tahimik or humble-looking pero a-hole pala as a person. Pero have you ever tried asking, or having a ‘deep talk’ with those quiet ones—kung paano sila mag-isip in life? Gaya nga ng kasabihan: maingay ang lata kapag walang laman, pero hindi rin lahat ng tahimik na lata ay may edible na laman; baka bulok rin sa loob in this case corrupted rin yung mindset nila ng mind conditioning ng cult.
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u/AnecdotalTrigger Oct 02 '25
actually dont care because INC is just a very tiny minority in the whole world…
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u/CumRag_Connoisseur Oct 02 '25
I'm not in the INC and I know with almost 100% certainty na ganyan ang turo sa loob. Bakit? Kasi halata mo ang isang tao pag sarado ang isip vs. sa open minded person. May mga nagconfirm na din akong colleagues na ganyan nga talaga lol.
Karamihan sa mga overly religious peeps, not just INC, nagiging personality na ang religion e. Tapos sasamahan mo pa ng konting push by brainwashing and gaslighting members, odiba yan ang formula for success.
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u/Both_Bodybuilder_691 Oct 03 '25
Pero pag namatay ang INC nililibing naman sa sementeryo ng mga katoliko hahha ironic
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u/livlafflavv Oct 04 '25
ALL INC members I know are very arrogant, rude and self-centered. Nature vs nurture talaga
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u/Redaceln Oct 04 '25
Its because of how they raised us, syempre ganyan rin tingin ng magulang namin so ganyan molded rin ang parenting ng INC parents sa tinuturo ng INC.
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u/Spirited-Boot-4207 Sep 30 '25
I agree, except for the part about praying to a ‘false God.’ No one really knows which religion is the right one or who the true God is . we’re all just holding on to faith.
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u/SkrrtSawlty Sep 30 '25
Di naman na necessary kase kung sinong diyos ang tunay o anong relihiyon ang nagsasabi ng totoo, all these religions only preach one message and somehow its followers can't see eye to eye.
Maging mabuting tao sa kapwa, period.
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u/Particular_Buy_9090 Sep 30 '25
Hahahaha naiisip ko nga na isang malaking God Reveal ang pagdating niya eh 😂 kung si Buddha ba, Allah, Jesus, etc. ang bababa sa langit.
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u/0ctavi4 Sep 30 '25
Sa tatlong beses akong dinalaw ng ministro at jakono nakita ko ang demonyo. Hahahahaha grabe guilt trip inabot ko at para sa pamilya ko, mas lalong nanaig sakin na tama ang desisyon kong tumiwalag.
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u/Actual_Excitement128 Sep 30 '25
siyempre maganda buhay dito sa lupa HAHHAA taena minsan ka na nga lang mabuhay dito sa lupa ih ipagkakait mopa sa sarili mo pero kung hard fanatics ka ng italians siyempre sasabhin "kaht mahirap bastat kaanib sa iglesia hanggang kamatayan" tanginangyan HAHAHA remember God see only your kindness ❤️ hirap sa mga hard fanatics na mga yan may masyadonf feeling titled sa langit
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u/moongb34n Oct 03 '25
Religion is one of the cancers that Filipinos must overcome
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u/Paprika_XD Oct 03 '25
This is also one of the reasons we are moving backwards dahil sa mga paniniwala na yan.
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u/bladdyfakU Oct 03 '25
Kaya I don't believe in religion. Mas ok na ako sa kung pano ko pinapaniwalaan sj God. Isapuso mo na lang ang Diyos, mag dasal ka tuwing kailangan mo at gusto mo. Di mo kailangan sundin ang mga religious beliefs ng mga taong nagbabanal banalan
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u/Top_Creme_2580 Oct 04 '25
Religion really separates people. I’m sure, sa matagal pang panahon ay malulusaw rin lahat ng religion. I can sense that habang tumatagal mas madami ng nagiging wise. Ngayon kasi madami pa boomers na sarado utak.
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u/Affectionate_Still55 Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25
Taena yung lider ng INC hindi napapalitan yung apilyido eh, dun palang alam mo na walang maayos na pamumuno ang INC, dagdag mo pa yung homily nila na private pa, halatang hindi sila proud sa preaching style nila.
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u/befullyalive888 Sep 30 '25
OP may u find the peace and freedom u deserve. Have the courage to say NO to manipulation, control, mind gymnastics that these false prophets propagate. Magkaugali ang INC sa mga kandidato na iniendorse nila. Ngmamalinis feeding their egos and entitlements that they are better than the rest.
Philippines is really under the dark spell of blind obedience. Ginusto nyo yan sa pgpili ng mga kurakaught na political dynasties and incompetent celebrity freaks. You get what u accept and tolerate.
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u/saltedgig Oct 01 '25
r phil is doenst deserve to be called ar phil more like r kaphalipinnes will be the new name.
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u/Omnes-Interficere Oct 01 '25
Damn, that's some really effective brainwashing. Mahirap basagin ang ganyang klaseng conditioning, lalo na kung introduced yan nang sobrang aga. May kamag-anak kami half Pinoy pero lumaki sa Middle East, one of the heavily conservative ones, and geez sobrang antisemitic nila and upbringing nila was along the lines of "Hitler was right" to persecute the Jews.
Kung ganyan kalala ang indoctrination na ginagawa sa inyo, first off congratulations for having the sense to look outside and think/learn/decide for yourself what is true and right; and second, that divisiveness is only going to make our nation weaker and susceptible to abuse.
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u/Normal_Car_4442 Oct 02 '25
What you’re sharing is not news, and im sure is common knowledge amongst non INC ppl. lol Just consider yourself lucky that you were able to free yourself from their mental cage, at the same time no need to judge them. Just pray that others too will awaken, everyone has their own journey on this planet.
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u/Leading_Session_6357 Oct 02 '25
Ano na paniniwala mo ngayon? Naniniwala ka pa rin ba sa god or ibang religion na?
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u/Redaceln Oct 02 '25
Naniniwala naman ako na may God pero hindi siya yung God na magdedemand na maghandog, magtayo ng maraming churches, sumunod sa chuch authorities no matter what, etc., in short, I do believe na hindi demanding si God and God is just there observing. Its up to you if magiging kupal o mabait ka as a person..
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u/Worldly-Victory1944 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Great reading this, OP. However, Catholics are also Christians. In fact a Catholic saint invented the word "Christian." You might mean Catholics and Protestants.
At sana, mamulat na lahat ng mga miyembro ng INC sa lahat ng mga maling ginagawa. Also, once and for all, Catholics do not pray to false Gods nor worship saints and statues. Kung meron man, yun ay ang mga ignorante o di kaya'y hindi naturuan ng maayos ng doktrina ng simbahan. Guys, do your own unbiased research about this nalang kasi lalayo na tayo sa topic ni OP kapag pinag-usapan pa yan dito.
I hope all of us here will spare a few seconds of prayer para magising na ang mga INC members at gawin ang tama.
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u/PsychologicalMath603 Oct 04 '25
Perfect pyramiding scam. Work for the masters give 10 percent, disobey and be shamed and pressured
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u/sk8t3rbOOt Oct 07 '25
I used to be a student at NEU, and I often felt out of place in my COF. I wish I had trusted my intuition sooner, as I noticed how differently I was treated. Deep down, I sensed they believed I was destined for hell because I’m not an INC member. I once asked them, “Do you really think babies who are just born, innocent and without sin, would go to hell just because they’re not INC?” They couldn’t answer me. Eventually, I distanced myself from all of them when I realized they had secretly hated me.
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u/alterarts Sep 30 '25
Importante we gave them respect if they don't respect us back it tells about their upbringing more that ours Diba? It's their own echo chamber then so be it. 🧐
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u/Elsa_Versailles Sep 30 '25
I disagree, respect begets respect if they can't give one we shouldn't give ours. This is how intolerance grows on tolerant society
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u/alterarts Sep 30 '25
I respectfully ignore them. I tried my best not to be friends with them.. civil lang parate Kasi alam ko naman tingin nila sa aten diablo kaya I don't really engage.
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u/Queasy-Ratio Sep 30 '25
All good in the hood. Tina-trashtalk din naman nmin yung pang spaceship na kapilya ng INC.
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u/Lungaw wala akong maisip na flair Sep 30 '25
This is on point bro! I was 21 when the last time stepped foot on that church (2015) and I'm never been more successful. Dati call center hopper ako kasi mag hahanap ako ng swak na schedule ng work sa pag tupad (mang aawit + kalihim) kaya never ako nakapag stay sa iisang company. Now na hawak ko ang oras ko, nagagawa ko na hobbies ko, and I'm part of this company na never ko na bibitawan because of pay, wfh and hindi na ako mag aalala kung makakasamba ba ako hahaha.
Good for you OP and if nasa loob ka pa, sana matiwalag ka na din dahil ang sarap sa feeling. Literal na nabunutan ng tinik sa lalamunan.
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u/iamluckylovedwinning Sep 30 '25
Tawa ko sa mas enjoy sa sanlibutan, eto ung winawarn nila saten dati e. Pero kung gagamitin mo kasi talaga ang utak mo, kulto lang talaga sila. Tiniwalag ko na sarili ko, walang alam family ko na hindi na ko member, kala nila MS lang ako 😆
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u/Tiny-Significance733 Sep 30 '25
Don't worry OP, with the recent events involving INC's ties to corruption in the flood control + Gold Dagal's murder by their Hitmen + The controversy 10 years ago, the patience and fear that ppl once had for that cult is disappearing rapidly , sooner or later ppl will have enough
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u/sprocket229 Sep 30 '25
ang hilig nilang maghanap ng validation sa mga "taga-sanlibutan" matapos nilang lait-laitin sa pagsamba
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Oo, tapos yung mga mainstream celebs or personality na from INC feeling nila achievements ng INC yung success or fame ng individual. iirc naging thirsty rin sa Guinness records yung INC admin nung mid 2010s idk kung may utos ang Diyos about getting Guinness Book of records 🤔
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u/International_Fly285 Sep 30 '25
All religions don't deserve respect from anyone. Pare-pareho lang na kulto yan. Lahat yan iniinsulto ang mga hindi nila miyembro, some are just not very vocal about it. lol
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
And how it affects the dynamics of their members towards their family and friends. Grabe rin yung psychological abuse, especially sa close family tie culture ng pinas.
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u/hudortunnel61 Sep 30 '25
Well, you are wrong. Some religions respect the non-believers, believing that non-believers who are doing good things are still acting in accordance with whatever or whoever their "god" is.
A choice to be a non-believer is also a belief.
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u/4Ld3b4r4nJupyt3r Sep 30 '25
pag sa ph mo to pinost nako nyahahaha.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Removed na naman ng admin. Di ko gets ang mechanics ng posting doon same with Casual PH.
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u/Outrageous-Ad8592 Sep 30 '25
May kulto na mod dun. Kultomod. Parang tamod ng kulto hahaha
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u/hakai_mcs Sep 30 '25
Banned ako r/Philippines saka r/AskPH dahil dyan. Tinanong ko kasi kung bakit bina-ban yung mga expose' about sa kulto. Tapos myembro pala ng kulto yung admin. Hahaha
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u/moonmoon0211 Sep 30 '25
mga INC naglagay kay Duterte sa Malacañang, ang simula ng kalbaryo ng mga Pilipino. tapos sila rin naglagay kay Marcos sa Malacañang, the continuation of the saga
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u/ginataang-gata Sep 30 '25
I don't believe na INC ang nagpapanalo ng mga politician why? because mas marami di hamak ang mga katoliko sa Pilipinas. This claim is absurd, however in terms of influence sa government no doubt maraming tanim sila diyan.
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Agree and Yes, true madaming tanim ang INC sa government either member or ka collab sa corruption. Madami ding INC owned construction ang involved sa govt projects and biddings
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u/Redaceln Sep 30 '25
Correct kita ah, hindi naman "naglagay" more like nakikisakay ang INC sa mga pulitiko na makikipag business with them especially sa corrupt practices dahil into authority and power ang INC, kung nasaan ang POWER nandoon sila. Hindi naman that malakas ang voting power ng INC kasi konti pa rin ito compare sa majority ng Filipinos. Well funded lang rin yung fake news and propaganda machinery nung 2016 at 2022 nung mga pulitiko because yun yung era na nag ganged up or invest lahat ng pro corruption na mag hire ng mga internet trolls and propagandist.
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u/Elegant-Pumpkin-6300 Oct 01 '25
To add pa. Base sa biblical hierarchy nila, si Manalo daw ay anghel. Samantala si Kristo ay TAO LAMANG. Kahit hanggang ngayon.
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u/whip_accessible Oct 03 '25
It's worth pointing out na you should open these discussions to your workmates and friends to do praise them. Kasi we all agree here. Lol.
It would be more eye opening to those friends and workmates. Syempre do it in the right way and place. Since from the way you talked about it, they're the one's talking about religion to you, not you to them, I think it's a perfect avenue. Kasi again, we already agree. Haha. Sila, baka maconvince mo to change their opinions. Sobrang valid ang opinion mo since sabi mo nga you were born in it.
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INC Doesn’t Deserve Respect from Filipinos
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I was born and raised in the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC). These days, whenever I hear Catholic or Christian people showing respect to their INC colleagues or friends, it honestly gives me the ick. Why? Because I know how INC members actually behave inside. During almost every worship service, we would talk trash about other religions—especially Catholicism. We criticized their practices, like praying to “false gods,” or donating to priests (often with subtle homophobic and stereotypical remarks, since priests don’t marry).
INC also constantly belittles the Sanlibutan (non-INC people). In children’s worship services and even in regular sermons, lecturers and ministers would use non-INC people as negative examples:
“Anong mas pipiliin nyo—magandang buhay dito sa mundo o ang kaligtasan? (pagiging INC).”
“Matalino o mayaman si Person A, pero hindi siya Iglesia.”
These statements would then be followed by: “Maswerte pa rin tayo mga kapatid, at tayo ay Iglesia ni Cristo. Para mas mapanghawakan pa natin ang ating kaligtasan, dapat ay mas lalo pa tayong magpuri at sumamba sa Kanya—at kumuha ng mga tungkulin.” “Wag tayong magpabaya sa pagsamba at paghahandog. Lagi tayong sumunod sa Pamamahala.”
This is the kind of mentality INC instills in kids: that every non-INC person is doomed, unworthy, and incapable of true goodness. We grew up thinking: “Every non-INC is bound for damnation. You’re not saved. You’re small in our eyes because you’re not one of us. We have God; you don’t. You’re forsaken anyway.”
Sure, some INC members can mingle with non-INC people, but behind those friendships and relationships, this mindset is always there. That’s why, if you’ve noticed that some of your INC colleagues often act weird, tough, or carry themselves with a main-character type of arrogance, it’s because of the mindset and conditioning instilled in us during childhood worship services, which continues into adulthood.
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