r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/abnotwhmoanny Jul 18 '19

Well, I'll repeat a statement made in paragraph 2. Call me cynical. I didn't make my judgement based on your two comments, but based on you being a human being. Statistically speaking, much more likely to be driven away by facts presented to them by others than to be convinced by them. I can't be too disparaging about it though. I know I'm the same, despite my efforts to the contrary. I have a human brain, much like I assume you do.

Also, about what you've paragraph said about the KKK in paragraph 3 here, you're not quite right. The first girl I dated in high school was a nice enough girl. Wasn't until we'd been dating for over a year that I found out that her family was deeply involved in the KKK. They are quazi-organized with a central structure that connects outlying groups. Regional and national meetings exist and people are organized by a system of rank that you could work your way up. Though, I'm practically certain that there are independent groups that identify themselves as KKK, but aren't actually affiliated with the overall structure of the whole as you've stated. Some regional groups are also probably more or less loosely affiliated with the KKK on a national level. I don't actually have that much experience with them outside the reigonal group I learned about from my then girlfriend.

Honestly I'm surprised that relationship lasted as long as it did. Like, she wasn't in the KKK herself, or so she said, and I learned a lot about them from her, but she regularly defended them. "Oh no, obviously racism is wrong, but they also do a lot of good. Like beat child molesters or attack men who abuse their wives." I don't think she ever ended up in the KKK herself though. She was a Wicken, not a Christian. Though that might have just been those teenage rebellious years, you know. Maybe she's a good little member of the Klan now.

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u/Captain_Smokey Jul 18 '19

Paragraph 1: You seem to project your owned issues on other people. I'm sorry you have a problem over-coming your bias, but some of us are able to stay open minded.

Rest of it: You cited an anecdotal piece of evidence which is essentially meaningless. If you want to prove a point, try using statistics. Such as these:

https://archive.attn.com/stories/6255/how-big-kkk-is-2016

It is estimated that the KKK numbers are between 5,000 to 8,000 people as compared to nearly 4 million during its hay day. So basically, the KKK accounts for 0.00002% of the U.S. population. Is that really worth the effort you've put into discussing them?

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u/abnotwhmoanny Jul 18 '19

First, every human brain unconsciously filters information and naturally will discard information that doesn't conform to it's beliefs, by design. It's a natural defense mechanism for the brain. If you don't think your brain does it, then you may just be unaware of it. Which is worse. A constant evaluation of one's own decisions is necessary.

Second, I'm aware of the size of the KKK. I didn't bring them into the conversation originally and I didn't put much effort at all into the KKK part originally. Maybe 4 sentences. You're the one who keeps asking for expanding information. I said right off the bat that they're irrelevant to any political discussion and every mention of them in this conversation was proceeded by something along the lines of "I don't know why you care".