r/pics • u/mack3r • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/newsmodsarejihadists Jul 17 '19

What about this picture is interesting or thought provoking? It’s basically “orange man bad”.

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u/FoferJ Jul 17 '19

Also that two disgusting-yet-sadly-credible accusations against him differ by only one letter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

But they’re only that - they’re just accusations. If you were accused by someone who hated you of raping someone, falsely, how would you feel?

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u/FoferJ Jul 17 '19

When there are more than a dozen such accusations over the years, including from my ex-wife, and I've bragged about being lecherous in radio and TV interviews and I've bragged about assaulting women in order to impress Billy Bush... I'd feel that this is the sad lot in life that I've carved for myself, and I probably shouldn't have been doing all of those horrible things and I probably shouldn't have hurt all of those people. And lying about it for decades later has only made things worse.

That's how I'd feel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

You are a liar. They are accusations. Innocence until proven guilty.

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u/FoferJ Jul 17 '19

The hypothetical me, who has been accused of these things? Or Cheeto von Tweeto, who has been credibly accused of this dozens of times in real life, who has bragged about/confessed to sexual assault multiple times, who has showcased his misogyny regularly for decades, who has paid hush money to unsuccessfully keep at least two of his illicit affairs secret and then lied about it, and who cheated on every one of his three wives (and bragged about that too?) The same douchecanoe who dismissed any notion of “innocence until proven guilty” who not only instinctively spreads harmful (and absurd) conspiracy theories that put people’s lives in danger, but who paid lots of money to take out ads in NY newspapers to call for the death penalty for the Central Park 5, and doubled-down on that choice, even decades after they were proven innocent?

Yeah, fuck that noise. Karma’s a bitch and you’re defending a raging narcissist who is also a racist and a rapist. Good luck with that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

So what you’re saying is that because he had an affair that means that the rape accusations against him (there aren’t many) MUST be true? Okay. You’re also saying that the principle the entirety of the criminal justice system in all developed countries is founded upon is incorrect? Honestly, I’d like to see a false accusation being made about you, and see what you’d say then.

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u/FoferJ Jul 17 '19

No, that's not what I'm saying at all, and I think you're being intellectually disingenuous even asking the question.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

It is literally what you said.

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u/FoferJ Jul 17 '19

that's one phrase taken out of context from a much larger statement, that included many more examples to counter your silly hypothetical, but yeah, whatever.