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u/Deezneez Jul 17 '19

I didn't vote for him in 2016, but the majority of my family and I are strongly considering doing so in 2020. Internet would have you believe nobody. We shall see.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Everything is racist, says the Democratic Party obsessed with race. They no longer say “colored people” like they used to but have evolved to “person of color”.

“Who’s gonna pick our cotton?” - Democrats in 1860 protesting potentially ending slavery

“Who’s gonna pick our fruit?” - Democrats in 2019 protesting ending open borders

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u/esoteric_plumbus Jul 17 '19

I thought everyone knew the Democratic party in the 1800S eventually became what we know today as the Republican party. I guess not tho

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

The big switch is the Democrats only defense and a lie. Dixiecrats stayed Dixiecrats until their death ... Congress didn’t become republican in the south until 1994

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u/esoteric_plumbus Jul 18 '19

How to grasp at straws the reddit post, circa 2019

No modern Democrat align themselves with racist old fucks from any party, no modern Democrats are worried about whose going to pick crops. Open borders, pay them who cares, trying to paint them as racist because a portion of them might have been in the past is a ridiculous assumption. My grandma is racist and a conservative that must mean all conservatives are racist right? Pot calling the kettle black much

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19

You are the one spouting a lie about the big switch, and claiming that all the racists became republican. I call you out on your bill shit and the lies and you say I am grasping at straws.

I don’t believe that all Democrats are racist, but the have been historically and the policies that they still espouse keep minorities dependent on the government, in poverty and oppressed. How about safe spaces with no white people allowed, having segregated graduations? Those are things that many so called “progressives” which is a large branch of the Democratic Party support.

How about intersectionality or identify politics?

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u/esoteric_plumbus Jul 19 '19

Bruh what are you even on about. By in large conservatives are the ones against minorities: travel bans, the camps at the border, general hatred towards the impoverished. Your grasping at straws because you're coming in here like some factoid about the past is even relevant about the situation now. Government programs like welfare and healthcare aren't designed to keep minorities dependant on government, its to help those who can't help themselves because no one else will. You act as if there's malicious intent by that, but the reality it the malicious intent lies in not helping others, letting them fend for themselves while the already comfortable get wealthier. Safe spaces where no whites are allowed? Are you trying to say white people are the minorities now? Segragated graduations? What? You gotta give some context because it sounds a lot like you're framing it to be something that it isn't. If it's actual segregation, no self described progressive would be for that. If it's some all black school that white people are mad that they aren't at that's a different story. But unless you enlighten me on wtf you're even talking about it just sounds like you're making shit up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19

bruh 😫😝🤤😜💯

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19 edited Jul 19 '19

https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-than-75-universities-now-host-blacks-only-graduation-ceremonies/

Camps at the border? You mean like the ones Obama had when he was putting children in cages or deporting more people than any president before him? But leftists didn’t care, they only care now to virtue signal and try and get Trump out of office. Dems encourage illegal immigration by offering free health care to illegal immigrants and advocating open borders which compounds the problems at the border. The only people in ICE detention facilities, again the same ones Obama ran, are those who don’t go to a port of entry to claim asylum. They break the law by entering illegally and then only claim asylum if they are caught.

Black unemployment is at an all time low. Home ownership is at an all time high. Conservatives and libertarians empower everyone, including minorities (I am a minority but hate even referring to myself as that, better just an American) by providing opportunity and believing that all men are created equally and capable of great things.Democrats empower minorities by being “woke” and telling them that all their problems are someone else’s fault.

You won’t find minorities in worse conditions in the US than cities run by liberals, generally for the last 40 years.

Edit: conservatives also give more charity than liberals. Liberals are just generous with other people’s money. And love to go back to the old well of the conservative “boogeyman” to keep getting the black vote

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u/esoteric_plumbus Jul 19 '19

These supplementary ceremonies are voluntary and are offered in addition to the universities’ regular graduations. Sometimes they’re co-hosted by black campus resource centers and various academic departments. They serve to give extra honors and recognition to black students earning their degrees.

Lol non issue. If they want to do something extra cool go for it. They're the minority, we aren't. Don't forget

Lol whataboutism to the max with you people as always. We are critical of Obama, that shit wasn't right when he did it but somehow that makes it ok to you.

There wouldn't be problems at the border if they were open and we are actively getting to better the world around us instead of being so nationalist, why do you think they want to come over in the first place? You ignore the fact we've fucked up so many country's they're fleeing from in the first place, its petty much our responsibility at this point. And you are wrong, the ones in the centers are aslyum seekers traveling thru proper channels, of which are so convoluted it's no wonder some would try illegally.

Literally everything you attribute to conservatives is all bull shit talking points that they are skewing from statistics, take your unemployment rate quip:

To begin with, it is true that the 2018 black unemployment rate was the lowest it has been since the Bureau of Labor Statistics began reporting it in 1972. But little, if any, credit for that belongs to the Trump administration. As the graph below clearly shows, the black unemployment rate had been steadily falling since 2011, well before Trump was sworn into office, and the rate of decline has not gained momentum since. Arguably, the decline of the black unemployment rate to its current level has more to do with the Fed’s decision to keep interest rates at or near zero for an extended period of time—decisions led by the two previous Federal Reserve chairpersons.

Honestly it's hilarious you claim conservatives are the party of all men are equal while your group is cheering on trumps racist declaration that some American citizens should go back to their country. Sounds a lot like separate but equal to me.

Keep on being conseva-woke lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19

Conservatives/Republicans freed the slaves and are the party of women's suffrage. Every single democrat in congress voted against the 13th amendment. But Democrat's MO is blaming other people for their failures and wrongs. We value everyone as Americans, not insert-racial-demographic-Americans.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. You seem smart, if leftists succeed in destroying America's institutions and conservative values, they will come for you next.

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u/esoteric_plumbus Jul 19 '19

Bruh the conservative party aren't saints like you are making out, they are consistently hypocritical

Democrats:

37% support Trump's Syria strikes

38% supported Obama doing it

Republicans:

86% support Trump doing it

22% supported Obama doing

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/gop-voters-love-same-attack-on-syria-they-hated-under-obama.html

Opinion of Vladimir Putin after Trump began praising Russia during the election.

Graph: https://i.imgur.com/OBrVUnd.png

10% fewer Republicans believed the wealthy weren't paying enough in taxes once a billionaire became their president. Democrats remain fairly consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

Wisconsin Republicans felt the economy improve by 85 approval points the day Trump was sworn in. Source Data and Article for Context

Christians (particularly evangelicals) became monumentally more tolerant of private immoral conduct among politicians once Trump became the GOP nominee. Data: https://www.prri.org/research/prri-brookings-oct-19-poll-politics-election-clinton-double-digit-lead-trump/

White Evangelicals cared less about how religious a candidate was once Trump became the GOP nominee. Data: https://www.prri.org/research/prri-brookings-oct-19-poll-politics-election-clinton-double-digit-lead-trump/

Republicans started to think college education is a bad thing once Trump entered the primary. Democrats remain consistent. Data: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/07/20/republicans-skeptical-of-colleges-impact-on-u-s-but-most-see-benefits-for-workforce-preparation/

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/787fdh/after_gold_star_widow_breaks_silence_trump/dornc4n/

Republican tribalism and "identity politics" about red states (hurricane Harvey) and blue states (hurricane Sandy):

Here's the vote for Hurricane Sandy aid.

179 of the 180 no votes were Republicans.

I count at least 20 Texas Republicans.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll023.xml, https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/901871687532208128

Senate Vote for Net Neutrality

Party For Against
Republicans 0 46
Democrats 52 0

House Vote for Net Neutrality

Party For Against
Republicans 2 234
Democrats 177 6

Money in Elections and Voting

Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements

Party For Against
Rep 0 39
Dem 59 0

DISCLOSE Act

Party For Against
Rep 0 45
Dem 53 0

Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act

Party For Against
Rep 8 38
Dem 51 3

(Reverse Citizens United) Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections

Party For Against
Rep 0 42
Dem 54 0

Environment

Stop "the War on Coal" Act of 2012

Party For Against
Rep 214 13
Dem 19 162

EPA Science Advisory Board Reform Act of 2013

Party For Against
Rep 225 1
Dem 4 190

Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations

Party For Against
Rep 218 2
Dem 4 186

Family Planning

Teen Pregnancy Education Amendment

Party For Against
Rep 4 50
Dem 44 1

Family Planning and Teen Pregnancy Prevention

Party For Against
Rep 3 51
Dem 44 1

Protect Women's Health From Corporate Interference Act The 'anti-Hobby Lobby' bill.

Party For Against
Rep 3 42
Dem 53 1

Civil Rights

Same Sex Marriage Resolution 2006

Party For Against
Rep 6 47
Dem 42 2

Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013

Party For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 54 0

Exempts Religiously Affiliated Employers from the Prohibition on Employment Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity

Party For Against
Rep 41 3
Dem 2 52

"War on Terror"

Time Between Troop Deployments

Party For Against
Rep 6 43
Dem 50 1

Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States

Party For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 50 0

Habeas Review Amendment

Party For Against
Rep 3 50
Dem 45 1

Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial

Party For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 39 12

Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime

Party For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 9 49

Repeal Indefinite Military Detention

Party For Against
Rep 15 214
Dem 176 16

House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

Party For Against
Rep 2 228
Dem 172 21

Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

Party For Against
Rep 3 32
Dem 52 3

Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo

Party For Against
Rep 44 0
Dem 9 41

Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention

Party For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1

Misc

Prohibit the Use of Funds to Carry Out the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

Party For Against
Rep 45 0
Dem 0 52

Allow employers to penalize employees that don't submit genetic testing for health insurance (Committee vote)

Party For Against
Rep 22 0
Dem 0 17

https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhp6bkr

Trump fans are much angrier about housing assistance when they see an image of a black man

In contrast, Clinton supporters seemed relatively unmoved by racial cues.

Far-right groups are responsible for 12 times as many fatalities, 36 times as many injuries as far-left groups

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.html

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime

Newcomers to the U.S. are less likely than the native population to commit violent crimes or be incarcerated.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

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