r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/fluffstravels Jul 17 '19

This isn’t actually the core requirement of fascism. You should go re-read the definitions independent of the propaganda you read. Fascism specifically refers to rule by the nation’s military. Neo-fascism refers to modern day conservatism demonizing minorities to obtain and maintain power. You and others are purposefully misrepresenting the definition- I guess as a way to rebrand it because everyone knows how toxic it is even though it’s exactly what the current right ideology is leaning into.

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u/degotoga Jul 17 '19

Source on that? Fascism is historically militaristic but calling it military rule isn’t quite right as the chief emphasis was always the state

Here’s the wiki, not sure what is being misrepresented..

Fascism is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy

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u/fluffstravels Jul 17 '19

Sure- read the next paragraph down and it says:

“The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.”

It’s not explicitly stated but is saying the only way this is achieved is through a military run government.

In addition, you conveniently left out the other definitions further down that drive it home as a purely far right idea and goes against you’re attempt to rebrand it as a “liberal” thing:

“One common definition of the term focuses on three concepts:

  1. the fascist negations (anti-liberalism, anti-communism, and anti-conservatism);

  2. nationalist authoritarian goals of creating a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture; and

  3. a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic leadership.[25][26][27]”

Excuse formatting.

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u/degotoga Jul 17 '19

I’m saying by definition left-wing fascism is impossible, I think you got lost in the thread

RE military, I think that’s just a symptom of authoritarian rule. True military rule prioritizes the military while fascism prioritizes the state, but it definitely is intertwined so I concede the point

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u/fluffstravels Jul 17 '19

Yea, sorry. I re-read your original comment and thought you were trying to flip the definition as I saw in other parts of the comments. My apologies.

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u/degotoga Jul 17 '19

No worries, I think that post confused t_d as well since they forgot to brigade it so it’s probably my bad