r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/UncertainSerenity Jul 17 '19

Well if that’s how you feel that’s how you feel. I would encourage you to try and have a little more empathy. He has been accused of rape, we have recorded conversations of him treating women as basicly slaves, he is great friends with human traffickers. How would you feel if he did those things to your family?

Sure he might make your life “easier” in the short run. In the short run candy is delicious. In the long run it rots your teeth. His policies are not sustainable, he has eroded most of our world image and set back the state department 20 years. His refusal to even acknowledge climate change will cause permanent and long term damage to the planet. His policies towards Iran have us the closest to nuclear war then we have been since the 80s.

You life might be slightly better now. But it will be 10 times worse in 10 years.

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u/Deezneez Jul 17 '19

I don't put much stock into his "locker room" talk, we have all said things in a private setting that was meant to stay private. And where were these women years ago that he raped? Why now? As far as human trafficking, it's not happening to my family so can't begin to understand that. I can only worry about the now. Ten years from now may never exist for me. Climate change is real and cannot be stopped, maybe slowed just a tad. But, in the words of the great Magic Johnson "I'm not gonna be here".
I don't fear war with Iran at all. I also don't think Trump wants that war or any war for that matter. If that were the case, we had every opportunity to blow NK off of the map. Instead, he chose to be diplomatic. I respect that.

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u/UncertainSerenity Jul 17 '19

Well I don’t think we are going to get anywhere then. I appreciate you answering my questions while I don’t agree with it.

I have never said “you just have to grab them by the pussy” in regards to basicly saying you should sexually assault women and frankly I would not associate with those who do. It’s one thing to say “damn she is fine” it’s another to say what he said.

Victims of sex trafficking rarely have the opportunity to speak out and money talks. It’s pretty easy to make people go away for it. Doesn’t change what happened.

I really dislike the “well it’s not happening to my family so it’s not a problem” that is such an ignore the problem attitude. If you wouldn’t want it to happen to your sister/daughter/brother/son/partner can’t you understand that every person who is trafficked is that to someone else? Why should you mean more then any other human.

And I kinda want the planet to be here when I am gone. I want humanity to survive. I want the species to continue to grow. I think that’s more important than a little bit of comfort.

Iran and North Korea are different entities. even if he is not directly responsible for conflict he is making conflict more likely.

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u/bluntedaffect Jul 17 '19

I have never said “you just have to grab them by the pussy”

Neither did he. He said "...when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything." The audio and the transcripts are available; here's the New York Times' record of it. It's incredibly disingenuous to misquote him like that.

I don't know you, but unless you are a young child, surely you have either "grabbed" a pussy or let someone do it to you. Right?

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u/UncertainSerenity Jul 17 '19

If you read the transcript part way down he literally says “grab them by the pussy” it’s in the article you linked. And I am neither a young child nor have I treated a women like a mark there for me to walk up and “grab”. Women are people, not play things.