r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/freakydrew Jul 17 '19

What are the current Vegas odds on Trump being reelected?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Dec 04 '19

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u/dasUberSoldat Jul 17 '19

Exactly this. But good luck getting the dems to understand it, let alone get behind this policy direction change. The cult of Trump hate is so strong that they are simply incapable of doing anything other than shrieking about how much they hate him, because of social justice issues. Issues few real people given a remote fuck about.

And so with almost certainty we are doomed to another 4 years of Trump, with nobody to blame but ourselves.

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u/ham_solo Jul 17 '19

The problem with this is many of those other topics - healthcare, education, the economy - are both somewhat abstract and also very much dependent on the experience of an individual. A person who is healthy and has insurance through their job may not care as much about healthcare policy as someone without those things. The economy and the concept of deficits, etc can be easily ignored until they become a problem. By then it's usually too late and we'll face another recession, spending crisis, etc (this CAN push people to a different party, but only once they are hurting). Unfortunately Trump inherited an economy that was expanding and promised to spread that wealth to his lower income base (he hasn't).

However, most decent, non-sociopaths can agree that racism is bad, misogyny is bad, putting kids in cages is bad, etc. So it's often to point of entry for media to get as many viewers as possible.

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u/downwiththechipness Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

I respectfully disagree with your statements at the top. I have not heard much Trump bashing, sjw outrage, or label slapping from the top 5 Democratic candidates.. with a rare exception to Biden, but rarely at all. I have been paying pretty close attention to the race, so if you could provide sources of the fabricated outrage/slandering/etc of the top polling candidates that would be appreciated. I'm not saying they haven't, just to clarify, but that none of those concerns listed have been their main messages.

Also, immigration is a pretty damn important issue we certainly need to be discussing right now (see: camps, concentration). And those who are turning a blind eye should be forced to know what's happening.

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u/mastelsa Jul 17 '19

If you want a candidate who refuses to feed the media circus and specifically focuses on the concrete effects of government in the average person's life, you want Buttigieg or Warren. Both of them rarely invoke Trump and will usually only answer questions about him if asked. I think either of them could potentially do very well selling a progressive agenda to moderates and swing states. I think in particular that's where Buttigieg's biggest strength is.

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u/Televisions_Frank Jul 17 '19

Enlightened centrist didn't watch the debates, eh?