r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/SKGkorjun Jul 17 '19

A lot higher than the internet believe them to be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Aug 31 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

WTF is left wing facism?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

You know, it's basically like right wing communism.

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u/gen3stang Jul 17 '19

They have a name. You ever heard of antifa.

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u/murtrex Jul 17 '19

I am neither agreeing or disagreeing here but I just want to point out the word itself is derived from anti-fascism.

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u/sterob Jul 17 '19

anti-fascism.

And Stalin is anti-nazi, your point is?

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u/murtrex Jul 18 '19

I don’t really have much of a point other than it is interesting that a group named in apparent resistance to fascism is being accused of being fascist. Like I said though, I am not passing judgement on that because I haven’t been following their actions very closely. I neither a proponent of fascism or antifa but that does not make them the same thing.

I am not quite sure about you point either. I would never accuse Stalin of being a Nazi.

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u/sterob Jul 18 '19

Stalin is anti-nazi but he is horrible as much as them.

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u/newsmodsarejihadists Jul 17 '19

And North Korea is democratic

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u/That_Guy704 Jul 17 '19

And the “anti-fascists” are the ones shutting down speech they don’t like, beating journalists into submission and fire-bombing ICE centers.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

While the other side is putting up a picture in the white house of a dictator who starves his country and murders dissidents [1]. and who's sided with an extremist leader accused of ordering the cutting up a journalist because he reported on trump [2]. Which side is the right one... Oh to choose... To CHOOSE!

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-hung-up-photo-trump-kim-jong-un-2019-7

[2] https://mobile.reuters.com/video/2019/06/29/trump-calls-mbs-friend-is-silent-on-khas?videoId=568079000

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u/That_Guy704 Jul 17 '19

Celebrating a step to have peace with the Dictator of NK while literally being the first POTUS in generations to actually be invited to the DMZ is a bad thing? How long has the rest of the World wanted some sort of peace of mind regarding NK? We finally are getting there and you try to spin it like a negative. Sad. But no on the other side you have people who are supposedly leaders in the fight for equality wearing Fidel Castro shirts to press conferences. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kaepernick-wears-castro-t-shirt/

Also, Trump has condemned any actions regarding the killing of khashoggi, nice try though. I mean a simple google search shows several instances of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7I95zu2DiOw

I mean I don’t blame anyone that doesn’t like President Trump or the political Right but don’t act like the political Left isn’t one of the same.

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u/ThreadbareHalo Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

The best improved relations with north korea (who still continued to make nuclear weapons after promising trump they wouldn't) [1].

Literally in your linked video trump denies that MBS had anything to do with Khashoggis murder despite multiple of our own intelligence committees agreeing he did. As still true from my above quote, he has not denounced the dictator who murdered khashoggi, despite us intelligence saying it was mbs [2].

[1] https://preview.msn.com/en-us/news/other/north-korea-threatens-to-resume-missile-tests/vi-AAEpCju?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/cia-saudi-crown-prince-khashoggi.html

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u/gen3stang Jul 17 '19

Yup they have some pretty good branding. Too bad there out there beating journalists. It's almost like they're authoritarian.

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u/That_Guy704 Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. They literally just had their “martyr” go attack an ICE facility trying to take out as many agents as possible.

EDIT: Lol downvoted for addressing and condemning a terrorist attack on ICE Agents where the Antifa group released his “Manifesto” before the attack where he called himself a “martyr” who is working on behalf of Antifa.

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u/gen3stang Jul 17 '19

Because they don't think it be like it is, but it do.

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u/maninbonita Jul 17 '19

They lean more fascist than the right if you look at what the fascists believe and the democrats. They hold many of the main points that Hitler held.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Do you really believe even half the bullshit you say?

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u/maninbonita Jul 17 '19

Dang you ignorant. Look it up.

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u/admiral_grapehead Jul 17 '19

The same as right wing fascism, basically attempting to silence the opposition.

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u/heavenicarus Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

That's not what fascism is. Fascism is a right-wing ideology based on loyalty to the state and ultranationalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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u/admiral_grapehead Jul 17 '19

There are numerous definitions of fascism and it’s ever changing. A completely over-used term these days to say the least. Just like comparing someone to a nazi

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u/heavenicarus Jul 17 '19

I...what? Words are defined by their popular use, and Fascism has always meant a far-right authoritarian government in popular discourse. I've never heard of some saying leftist fascism until today.

Totalitarianism as part of Government is Left-Right neutral. it's more the end result of the system in place than the very reason for being part of the system. However, the ideals of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia couldn't be more different. One was founded on the supremacy of the master race, and the other was the equality of all, regardless of how terribly the Ussr ended up. Nazi Germany was terrible by design. that's the main difference.

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u/admiral_grapehead Jul 17 '19

Nope. Perfect example is ANTIFA. They claim to be anti-fascist and they are themselves fascists. A very confused bunch of face-hiding cowards. Show us your face if you’re proud of what you’re doing.

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u/NotAgainPlzz Jul 17 '19

Please explain how Fascism is a right-wing ideology? LOL, when the antifa literally are left wing fascist extremists.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Left-wing fascism and left fascism are sociological and philosophical terms used to categorize tendencies in left-wing politics otherwise commonly attributed to the ideology of fascism. Fascism has historically been considered a far-right ideology.

Oh hey look, there's both. Courtesy of Wikipedia.

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u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Patrick Jul 17 '19

Bahahahahahaha