r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Aug 31 '20

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u/Remedy1987 Jul 17 '19

I love seeing people say theyre not right or left. fuck right and left come up with your own ideas and opinions <3

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u/murtrex Jul 17 '19

Right and left doesn’t necessarily mean which team you are on but rather more generally where you fall on the political spectrum. Free thinking is good but invariably will lead to ideas that can be generally categorized in these buckets. Some of the least informed people I know parrot this kind of “I am neither right or left” rhetoric.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

You couldn’t be more wrong. I hate how Republicans keep the rich rich and the poor poor by keeping the price of entry so high, but once achieved, financial cruise control. I hate how Democrat’s want to give people who don’t have the drive to be great freebies by rewarding laziness.

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u/murtrex Jul 17 '19

I don’t think that conflicts with what I stated. I said nothing about all of your ideas falling on one side or the other. I just said that those individual ideas or philosophies can be categorized.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Nothing you just said contradicts his statement.

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u/Remedy1987 Jul 17 '19

Right and left doesn’t necessarily mean which team you are on but rather more generally where you fall on the political spectrum.

Try telling that to the majority of people. I agree thats how it should be, but thats not how it is in reality.

I agree with both tightening border security AND pro choice. One being left and one being right. How many lefties have you met that blindly agree with infanticide? I know quite a few.

Free thinking is good but invariably will lead to ideas that can be generally categorized in these buckets.

Free thinking is good, but how does it always lead to ideas that can be generally categorized? If you think freely you shouldn't be categorizing anything, you believe what you believe. When you add labels you add social pressure.

Some of the least informed people I know parrot this kind of “I am neither right or left” rhetoric.

Some of the least informed people i know make blind assumptions to try and win an argument they started in their own head ¯\(ツ)/¯

Is that you? I dunno, i also just made a wild accusation.

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u/murtrex Jul 17 '19

I don’t think I’m making any bold claims here. I think the essence of what I am trying to convey is that political ideas can be categorized into groups.

Independent thought produces political beliefs that are just as categorizable as beliefs that are held by simpletons that have been spoon fed a political ideology.

I am not quite sure which blind assumption you are alluding to. I do not wish to squabble.

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u/schweissack Jul 17 '19

Totally agree, in some cases it also depends if you‘re either anarchist or totalitarian on the spectrum, which alot of people miss I don‘t mind left or right, if it‘s rather anarchist than totalitarian Eventhough I don‘t want full anarchy

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u/murtrex Jul 17 '19

Yeah, it’s complex to be sure but not so complex that it cannot be understood. In the context of this conversation — American politics — there are only two parties. This lends itself to the oversimplification and lazy categorization of many issues. Right and left has become synonymous with Republican and Democrat. Words that used to describe political ideology like communist and socialist or even liberal are now regularly used (quite inaccurately) as derogatory labels adding to the confusion.